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    Thumbs down hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    u know that aint good either i have seen everthing destoryed by tax on everything so i want to know what that sin tax does to any clubs less customers back in 2007 does and now?

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    Default Re: hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    Okay, if I can decypher the question I think it's hard to really quantify the effect of the Texas "pole tax" on club business since it probably would get lost within the greater effect of the economy in general not doing so hot (Even in many parts of Texas. The state overall just looks good when compared to other states' economies getting really crushed)

    Nobody likes to pay a tax, and the specious connection they make between adult entertainment and a number of social ills is lame, but then again so is almost every justification for a sin tax. However, from the glass-half-full side one could argue that as with booze and smokes, when you tax and regulate you legitimize, and as long as it remains a reasonable amount one could imagine it creating a symbiosis between the clubs and the local governments since the county is not in the business of shutting down sources of tax revenue, is it? For 5 bucks, I'm not going to pretend there's "principle" involved.

    One other thing the "pole tax" would do, and that has both positive and negative potential, is give the authorities a sense of just how many customers there really are for the clubs. It has pluses if they figure, dang, that's a really large amount of citizens hitting the clubs, let's not kill the goose that laid the golden egg; it's a minus though if the numbers tell them it's a very small group because then some of them may feel they might as well squeeze that small minority segment dry.

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    Default Re: hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    I dislike it immensely and try to get out of it whenever possible, but generally they will charge it now because I don't go to the clubs enough to have any pull.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but a "pole tax" is actually a cover or increase in the cover as opposed to a fee paid by a dancer. Is that right? Either way, it's a de facto tax on strippers if you think about it. I'm willing to bet a lot of guys go in the clubs with $X to spend and spend it all or nearly all of it. Now they lose $5 right off the top and it might actually make "one last dance" less likely. It would also discourage a percentage of customers from going in. On the other hand, it would certainly keep a good number of non-dance-buying customers out of the club.
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    Default Re: hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    I read the law correctly, way back when, the tax is supposed to be imposed on the club, not the customer. Of course, we all know how that turns out. it gets passed on to the customer...
    Since it's not really a choice I would guess that the effect it has on "lookie-lews" would probably be leveraged against what other features the club has to offer for the guys who don't go to spend money on the girls. I can remember when all of the clubs in RI (except for one) charged no cover during the day and offered a free buffet at lunch. The idea of course was to draw daytime business but too many guys came for the food and nursed a bottle of water for an hour while watching the stage and not tipping or buying dances. Eventually the buffets went away. My guess is that Bem's assessment would be correct. A five dollar tariff would, presumably, keep guys who don't want to actually spend on the girls away. OTOH, I don't really know what else those clubs have to offer. It might be worth five bucks if there is a buffet, if the drinks are cheap enough or if the girls are so bored that they will sit with the no-money guys for free.

    I would also assume that it has more of an effect on business during the day than it does at night.
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    Default Re: hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    RI was talking about such a tax within the last year and tonite is the governor's State of the State address supposedly containing a plethora of new taxes so that might be included. When it was discussed it was described as a tax the customer was to pay upon entering the club and included other clubs, movie theaters, a whole bunch of other establishments, not just SC's.

    Now that I think about it, it might have actually been a city tax. I didn't pay much attention to who was talking about imposing it.
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    It would make sense. Cut-backs in tax revenue and federal aid are leaving states, cities and towns with huge revenue shortfalls. Municipalities have to find ways to make-up the shortfalls.
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    Default Re: hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    hmm whats RI means? and thats makes more sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolguy View Post
    hmm whats RI means? and thats makes more sense
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    Default Re: hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    I would suspect that this will have very little effect upon the clubs and dancers during night shifts, at least in Dallas and Fort Worth (where I club in TX). The clubs virtually all charge a nighttime cover, and in the cases of the nude byob clubs the covers are fairly high already, so I have no doubt that these clubs will just goose up the cover charge a bit.

    If $5 makes a difference in a guy's decision to visit a strip club, then he likely was not going to be much of a customer anyway.

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    Default Re: hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    ^^^ Years ago, with loads of veteran regulars and a steady stream of newcomers, I'd have been inclined to agree with you. Nowadays, as they try anything possible to get bodies in the place, the last thing they need is to have to charge each guy an extra $5 to let him in. It will discourage (to a certain extent) new guys or casual customers from visiting and its one more thing to make customers reconsidering their patronage think about pulling the plug. While none of these guys might mean a hell of a lot to the girls right now, they still spend on alcohol and that's where the clubs make most of their money. And you never know, some of these guys could be potential big spenders just waiting for the right girl to push their buttons.
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    Default Re: hey everyone what ya think of the ''sin'' taxes $5 in tx?

    hey thanks bem401.. and rickdugan true about all of that but i dont care about it lol i just love to enjoy tx u can buy byob mean more alcohol and stuff better than louisiana and where i visit tyler tx i like the small club not too big clubs.. i sit at the bar table so i can see everything...

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