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    Default I surrender SM, you win :(

    after working for hours without making so much as a dollar on SM for days on end. I am coming to the conclusion that I suck at this. I don't understand why I'm having so much trouble! Not to sound like a snob but I'm not exactly ugly. My rates are ridiculously low (1.99) and I always try to look pleasant. It's even more frustrating that I was making more working with a studio (3-4 hours making 100 a day) than I am on my own. I've thought about going to mfc but I here you make even less on there. I guess this is the end wahhhhhh

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    Default Re: I surrender SM, you win :(

    First, before Fridays strangles you*, raise your rates. You get only the shittiest guys with low low rates. Bump it up a few bucks.

    You have nice lighting? Use sound? Stream in HD? Smile and interact with the guys? Set a schedule and stick to it? Cam several hours a night, a few days a week? You should at least be making 30$ an hour, even if you have shit placement.

    Unless you're going w/a physical studio that will provide you with the tools you need I don't suggest going back to a studio.

    *You know I'm only kidding Fridays, just teasing you. As soon as I saw the OP's rates I knew you were going to cringe.


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    I got more privates when I raised my rates. Don't think that lower rates will necessarily mean more traffic.

    But that said, it's been really slow for everyone. It's the time of year. January is slow in all retail/sales based businesses. It'll get better. I know that's easy to say when in the meantime, you need money now. Believe me, I understand. Maybe try splitcamming or selling content too. You just have to be resilient. Things will pick up soon.
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    Default Re: I surrender SM, you win :(

    Try to raise your rates to see if that helps.It cant hurt to try.I think you should try MFC even though its deadville for me as far as the tippers goes.But you'll be a new face in the place.Keep your head up and a smile on your face .Good luck
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    Also another thing that worked for me is instead of using wireless internet i use a Ethernet cord.Try it to see if that helps with placement.Better placements equals paying traffic at least in my case.

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    Everything Blake Dahlia said, we kind of need more info on your situation to offer you any advice. Most importantly though, RAISE THOSE RATES.


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    Re: raising rates

    I think now is the best time to raise your rates seeing as you probably have few if any regulars. I know everyone here is going to jump on the bandwagon and say "raise your rates", but I think there is appropriate and not appropriate times to do it. Lets say you have a slew of regulars at $1.99 a minute, if you immediately raise your rates by say $2 a lot (not all but a lot) of those guys are going to drop off. BUT in that situation you could slowly raise your rates week by week and most will not notice and/or get used to your new price.

    However if you have few regulars you could just jump up by $2 or so.

    When I first started I was $1.99 and sold on average 450 minutes a week. It was like that for about a month. Then I took about 3 weeks off and immediately upon logging it I raised to $3.99/minute. I figured that gave me enough time away from the regulars to justify raising it by $2 instantly. A certain % of them had well forgotten about me by then. Now my average weekly sales are around 600 minutes.

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    Make sure you are using a good quality camera. Most ladies here like the logitechs (but quite frankly I am not a huge fan). I prefer using camcorders or surveillance type cams. I have also used my built in isight (facetime HD as they now call it) and made good with it. Talk to your room and have some fun.

    You:

    Make sure you do things off camera that are for you. Is traffic slow and you want to go up to the corner and grab some chips? Go do it. Do you want to work out and spend time with your pets? Do it. Doing things you want to do make you less grumpy when you are on cam. Some days traffic just isn't in my room and I really feel like saying "fuck it" and going out. So I do it. The last thing good paying customers want is to see a girl who is grumpy and couped up. Plus it sends customers the message that you are not there all the time so they better go private before you decide to take off. It tells them to value the time that you are there, not just take you for granted.



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    There is absolutely no way you could possibly not be making money, if your sm screenname is what I think it is.

    There HAS to be something wrong with your feed.

    Are you using the adobe encoder? How many guests do you typically have in your freechat? Do they tell you they can see you?

    What is your upload speed? (check at www.speedtest.net).

    There MUST be something wrong with the stream you are broadcasting, I am 100% certain.

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    I definitely recommend raising your rates slowly so as not to shock any regulars you might have. I don't think I've ever raised my rates by more than $.10 at time.
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    Default Re: I surrender SM, you win :(

    If she hasn't yet made a dollar, I think it's safe to say that she doesn't have any regulars.

    :-(

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    Wow, this is so different from my experience. My utmost sympathies for what sounds like a shitty and frustrating experience. Are you biologically female and in possession of your real hair? Actually, scratch that ... even if the answer is "no" to both, I'd be floored to see this post.

    Would also say raise the price at LEAST $1.50/hr ... but I'm stumped! Are you using the encoder and audio? Have all your body parts? Anyone?

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    I completely feel you girl. This week has absolutely sucked for me. But I'm looking into other sites. I just finished getting everything squared away with adultwork. And I'm going to finish up getting some clips together for c4s. I'd def raise your rates. And just stay determined. I get distracted so easily but I have to force myself to stay on when I'm not making money. I honestly believe you CAN make money. It may not be easy and it may not be fun but you can figure out what works for you. Just try out some new things. Good luck!

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    Jessica I feel this way alot. Like my stream is bad. I'm pretty sure my upload speed is scary awful(.40mps) but I have no idea how to fix it. I use a logitech 9000, it isn't my favorite but when I started on my own that was what all the cam girls I spoke with said was a good cheap option to start with.

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    Default Re: I surrender SM, you win :(

    I have zero regulars, and the custies I do get are the kind that leave without saying even a word.

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    Default Re: I surrender SM, you win :(

    Quote Originally Posted by MeganElise View Post
    after working for hours without making so much as a dollar on SM for days on end. I am coming to the conclusion that I suck at this. I don't understand why I'm having so much trouble! Not to sound like a snob but I'm not exactly ugly. My rates are ridiculously low (1.99) and I always try to look pleasant. It's even more frustrating that I was making more working with a studio (3-4 hours making 100 a day) than I am on my own. I've thought about going to mfc but I here you make even less on there. I guess this is the end wahhhhhh

    $1.99/min and getting 35% of your earnings means that you're only getting about 70 cents/min.

    I've been saying this a lot on here lately, but I just wanted to let you know that I used to be with a SM studio too, and the studio agent even said that they recommend models start out with the rates of $3.99 for premium and $4.99 for exclusive. I think those are good rates, and I wouldn't go below that.
    My referral link for models to join the Boleyn Models daily pay program
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    LOL did someone call me?
    Megan, first, try your best to have the BEST internet connection that you can get in your area. and a good computer.
    Thats # 1
    #2. is that you in the pic? you look GOOD! you should have no problems getting custies
    #3 ill just copy paste from a post i made in a previous thread...

    the perception of value...
    you " seem" to value more because others already value you.
    So the question is : what can you do to change their perception of you?
    Work hard(4-5 hours/day.. minimum) and try to make an impression on every single one of them. Current and possible customers.
    Up your acting skills.
    You have to beat them at their own game.
    Yea it is not easy to pretend your in the best mood ever, constantly.
    But if you manage to do it, you;re golden.
    Try this and that and the other thing...
    Try everything you can think of... be nice, be mean , be the girl next door, be the slut, be the shy girl, be the " I want to fuck u NOW!" girl

    Pretend you;re already popular. And its going to rub off on them... Eventually.
    Its a never ending battle.......

    and please..raise that price! not less then 3.99 for prv and not less then 4.99 for exclusive!.. unless u want me to come there and choke you! lol jk

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    Default Re: I surrender SM, you win :(

    heres an idea. for one week, do the opposite of what you have been doing and see if you get any results. raise your rates, be more assertive or more nice depending on how you are now. change your look a bit. its not like things acan get any worse right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    unless u want me to come there and choke you! lol jk
    Haha, this would probably bring her more customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    Haha, this would probably bring her more customers.
    I can see it already.
    " ok guys...$2999 GOAL.. $55 Pledge for 10 minutes and this is cheaper then a private!... we only need 50 people to pledge.... LETS GO!!"

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    You need to upgrade to faster internet, girlie.... and use the encoder.

    Your webcam is fine - -that's the same one I use.

    If your customers are not saying anything, it's a pretty good indication that your cam feed sucks so bad that they can't see you at all. Or it's so choppy that they figure it's not even worth trying to talk to you. Either way.... unless you live so deep in the sticks that you don't have the option of upgrading to faster internet, this is fixable.

    IT'S NOT YOU - it's your technology. Get it handled, and you will be making $ in no time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeganElise View Post
    Jessica I feel this way alot. Like my stream is bad. I'm pretty sure my upload speed is scary awful(.40mps) but I have no idea how to fix it. I use a logitech 9000, it isn't my favorite but when I started on my own that was what all the cam girls I spoke with said was a good cheap option to start with.
    Who does your internet and what speed are you paying for? CALL THEM! Call them and tell them your speedtest results. If you're paying real money for this it isn't good. Don't stop until you get it fixed. Be nice, but tell them that you're "off work today" and you can and will stay on the phone until you get the issue fixed. LOL, that always gets it fixed for me. Delta once refunded me a "non refundable" ticket when I told them that very same thing. Stay calm, be nice but firm. If you're paying for real internet speeds and you're not getting it, that's unacceptable.

    If you're on one of those silly wifi cell signal cards or whatever, upgrade to a real cable connection. Use a cable to connect to your router. Invest in a good connection and you'll make that money back.


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    ^^^It could even be a problem with your router itself if it's a few years old and you're on a cable connection.

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    Default Re: I surrender SM, you win :(

    Noooo, please don't surrender!
    When I first started out, I had nobody in my room and if I had someone, he logged off immediately. I've done a speedtest and it was so slow! I called my ISP and told them, they said, no way, this isn't possible, they'll send someone to check it out...and it turned out that something was wrong on their side in my building. They fixed it and I have an amazing upload speed now. So definitely, don't go down without a fight There is something wrong, but it's not you, I'm sure!
    I had a very slow week too, like desperately slow. Nothing seems to be working anymore. I know it will end soon though!

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    Its probably just not the site for you. Try others. All of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Its probably just not the site for you. Try others. All of them.
    I know lots of people on the forum say this exact thing.
    I disagree.
    You can make it work on any site if you;re willing to play that site's game.

    its not like on site A you have to bake cookies and and on site B you have to show vagina.
    Please.......

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