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    generally I don't like seeing what is on free chat on any site, because of the fact there are too many girls who give away too much for free. even if its just for those gold tips. that is the part of camming I think is going down hill. since minors have access to free chat it seems that these sites aren't aware or they don't care they are techincally breaking the laws by having models be nude in free chat that is accessible to anyone.
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    I think that's why I cant do the sites that have shows in free. I always wonder if some 12 year old is going to see me. I remember when I was that age I thought I was hardcore by looking up "dirty words" in the dictionary...I could just imagine what I'd have been googling if the internet had been available lol

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    This is really bothering me as well. I thought that SM was a little stricter about nudity in free..but all you have to do is skim through a page or two and inevitably a "portrait" photo, or whatever they are called, will be there with someones pussy out in all its glory.
    I am really quite worried about the possibility of underage people on there too. Today some guy came into my room and asked if I would show my "boobs" in private...I was like, "uh, yeah, thats kinda the idea here"..then he asked me how old his "friend had to be to watch with him...wtf? I suppose that it could have just been someone fucking with me, but still, it unnerved me quite a bit.

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    the other week i had this 16 year old try to convince me to go private...

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    If you read your contract, it says that you are responsible for what you are streaming and you acknowledge that you are not allowed to stream content that is illegal where you live.

    So if you are showing nudity to minors and anyone gets in trouble for it, it will be you and not SM. They have the contract with your signature on it to prove that you were warned.

    If someone can prove that they are aware of the nudity on the site and are still not doing anything about it, then I'm pretty sure that's where their responsibility comes in; however, it might be hard to prove. With the government becoming more involved in what goes on over the Internet, I think it's only a matter of time before someone gets in trouble for it, though I doubt it will be the site. I would be interested to see what would happen if they started getting a fine each time it happened, then passed the fine onto the models. Of course, that's probably never going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    If you read your contract, it says that you are responsible for what you are streaming and you acknowledge that you are not allowed to stream content that is illegal where you live.

    So if you are showing nudity to minors and anyone gets in trouble for it, it will be you and not SM. They have the contract with your signature on it to prove that you were warned.

    If someone can prove that they are aware of the nudity on the site and are still not doing anything about it, then I'm pretty sure that's where their responsibility comes in; however, it might be hard to prove. With the government becoming more involved in what goes on over the Internet, I think it's only a matter of time before someone gets in trouble for it, though I doubt it will be the site. I would be interested to see what would happen if they started getting a fine each time it happened, then passed the fine onto the models. Of course, that's probably never going to happen.
    See, this is what I have a huge question about! All that these kids need is a valid credit card to be able to buy shows on these sites, am I correct? And we all know what thieving little shits kids can be...so, they steal their dads card, get a member account, watch what we do...and if their parents find out and freak the fuck out, as I am sure most would, would we, the performer, be the ones to face legal repercussions? It would seem to me that these sites probably have their asses pretty well covered for this eventuality...but what about us? We have NO WAY of knowing who is on the other side of that computer.

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    They definately cover their asses...just look at MFC...they have all these "rules" stating no nudity, penetration etc and yet look at what goes on in free. I can completely understand why its a regular thing on here to have someone ask how MFC works because they read the rules but also watched other girls rooms and wondered what was going on

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    If you're performing to someone on the site, in private, you have every reason to assume the person is 18, so no, you would not be in trouble. It's the site's responsibility to ensure that the customers are "of age".

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    The other day in free "Hey can we go pvt?" "Sure lets go" "Can my 13 year old brother watch with me?" "You're foul -ban-"

    I had a 12 year old in my pvt once. He turned on his cam, I ended the pvt immediately (thank god he only saw boobs....) and reported
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    I wouldn't worry about the privates as much as I would free chat with the minors watching. . it is so easy for *anyone* to watch some sort of amateur porn in free chat
    . . I always thought it was wrong to bear all in free chat for that reason also, along with many others!

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    I think boobs are fine its not against Sm's agreement. I go topless for the preview cam for a few second to pull in more users to my room. But as far as younger Viewers God i hope i don't get any but shit happens. As long as it not sex they are viewing i don't think it's to bad. Most of my fellow Americans frown upon nudity like its the devils work lol But we let kids View extreme violence Murder blood, guts, cursing that's ok. But dont let them see a nipple lol. I don't get America sometimes.If i get a young viewer and find out i just ban them no worries.... OMG im done ranting sorry girls

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    Where can I find the SM contract/model rules? I do topless for tips in free, but no puss and NEVER penetration! I almost never have on pants, so they are getting some booty shots often.



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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    since minors have access to free chat it seems that these sites aren't aware or they don't care they are techincally breaking the laws by having models be nude in free chat that is accessible to anyone.
    Streamate told me they allow topless in free chat now... as of like, what, a couple months ago? They technically allow nude chat & penetration in free chat, but you have to "be behind a wall" which they *think* means no one can see you in free chat, but EVERYONE can still see you if they go to your cammodels link logged in or not. I don't think "walls" apply to white labels or something, and Streamate does not realize this (or they probably do, they just fail to care lol). All legality issues, like MFC and every other site, are solely on the model so since it doesn't affect them, they fail to care.


    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaBelle View Post
    See, this is what I have a huge question about! All that these kids need is a valid credit card to be able to buy shows on these sites, am I correct?
    Prepaid cards work to create an account and buy shows. However, many children these days have their own credit cards their parents foot the entire bill for.

    You also have to take into account, when you cam2cam, you may NOT be seeing a child. You may be seeing someone who has hormonal problems & just looks young. Think Andy Milonakis who is actually 35 or something, but looks 12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    You also have to take into account, when you cam2cam, you may NOT be seeing a child. You may be seeing someone who has hormonal problems & just looks young. Think Andy Milonakis who is actually 35 or something, but looks 12.
    ....touche! bahaha I was just visioning Andy Milonakis coming up on a cam2cam view.



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    See I had this problem too. . . a guy/kid took me to prvt and did cam2cam and he seriously looked like he was twelve but I didn't do anything because
    for one I look really young and I am 27. And his cam lighting was really dark so I wasn't sure if I was seeing him correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charise View Post
    See I had this problem too. . . a guy/kid took me to prvt and did cam2cam and he seriously looked like he was twelve but I didn't do anything because
    for one I look really young and I am 27. And his cam lighting was really dark so I wasn't sure if I was seeing him correctly.


    True. I'll be 30 years old this summer, and many people have a hard time believing that I'm even in my 20s. They see me with my son, and they either assume that A) I'm his older sister or B) I had him at a really, really young age. LOL.

    I remember reading a forum thread (I think it was on a different forum) where someone suggested that models who LOOK underage not be allowed to cam. That bothered me. I'm sorry, but just because others think I LOOK like a teenager doesn't mean I should be prevented from camming on a cam site. Why should I be penalized just for having a youthful look? I thought it was outrageous for someone to even suggest that.

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    To clarify, he turned on his cam and wrote "I'm 12 :]"
    lol wut?


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    Lol yeah if they told me they were twelve then I would definitely ban!!

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    Oh and I would be so pissed if I couldn't work because I look under age. . . Major discrimination!

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    One time, I got that glitch that sent me into free chat without the door shutting noise and count down. Lots of people saw me naked for free that day...
    Oh, and this other time my stream was lagging really badly, so basically this private I was in was showing up in free chat! How embarrassing...

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    See, the topless doesn't bother me too much. I actually have an anon email that I use to email SM's customer support (rather than model support) when I see these girls giving away EVERYTHING in free chat.

    I'm sorry, I shouldn't be able to see your sopping wet ladybits in the preview snapshot. We all lose money that way.

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    The topless for gold thing doesn't bother me, but then again, I do it! SO of course it doesn't bug me. It DOES bug me to see girls going topless for free - these guys have to learn to PAY! I will take a minimum of $5 for a flash (which, for the record, is a FLASH. A few seconds of boob, maybe a little rub.) which yes, I know is only around $1.50, but seeing as my boobs are all over the internet anyway, meh, I don't care. As long as they are aware that they have to pay something. If they want my boobs to stay out, they have to keep tipping.

    It does drive me nuts to see all the rest of the crap that has started to go on in free chat on SM, gold or no gold. There is supposed to be NO below the belt nudity in free, and yet, look at all the pussy. Grrrr.

    On this subject - what do you girls feel about sucking a cock toy in free? I often get asked if I will do a deepthroat for gold, and always say no (because I can usually talk them into a private and get more money, duh) but whenever I get asked, I wonder - is this against the rules? Would you guys do this? I'm, not going to start, but I would love to know your opinions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    The topless for gold thing doesn't bother me, but then again, I do it! SO of course it doesn't bug me. It DOES bug me to see girls going topless for free - these guys have to learn to PAY! I will take a minimum of $5 for a flash (which, for the record, is a FLASH. A few seconds of boob, maybe a little rub.) which yes, I know is only around $1.50, but seeing as my boobs are all over the internet anyway, meh, I don't care. As long as they are aware that they have to pay something. If they want my boobs to stay out, they have to keep tipping.

    It does drive me nuts to see all the rest of the crap that has started to go on in free chat on SM, gold or no gold. There is supposed to be NO below the belt nudity in free, and yet, look at all the pussy. Grrrr.

    On this subject - what do you girls feel about sucking a cock toy in free? I often get asked if I will do a deepthroat for gold, and always say no (because I can usually talk them into a private and get more money, duh) but whenever I get asked, I wonder - is this against the rules? Would you guys do this? I'm, not going to start, but I would love to know your opinions!
    I will be the enemy here and tell you that I often sit in free chat topless and with a small underwear barely covering my crotch. However when it comes to demands...I tell them "if you want to direct me around in free chat tip". I never remove the "curtain" (ie the panties) or introduce toys in free chat, but if they tip I will show my ass, feet or stand up in free chat.

    The reason I do this is because it directs tons of traffic to my room and some of that is good paying traffic. I personally like 20-30 people in my room and even if only a few buy a show, then so be it. Trust me it is much easier selling privates to a room of 20 then it is to say a room of 4.

    As for all the pussy in free chat, the way these girls get away with it is by either covering it with their hand or wearing a panty (even if you can see the lips, SM considers wearing a panty as not showing). You can even wear see through panties and not get in trouble. I know this because once, back in the days when I would always wear clothing in free chat, I got suspended for being naked in free. I got suspended because after a private I would flip myself in to break and that damn snapshot thing took a shot as I was getting dressed in "break mode". I did not know that the snap shot still took shots when I was in break. So I emailed CS and got a long, albeit canned, explanation as to what nudity in free chat means to them.

    If you have ever seen "myhairgirl" on she usually has the cam aimed right at her crotch and you can definitely see her pussy lips and hair peeking through the panty (which is most often see through). She usually is only in free chat for 5 mins at most until someone takes her private. Its crazy how many people are in her room for a girl who just aims camera at her crotch. Yeah she may be giving a lot away in free chat, but these days you have to be competitive to get these customers. This ain't the year 2000 where guys would buy cam shows solely based on a few photos. Trust me I wish we could go back to those days.



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    I used to go topless in free chat all the time because I got annoyed with putting my bra on and taking it off every 5 mins in and out of paid chat. And then especially when I was doing gold shows because I was trying to get as many people in my room as possible (the more people in my room, the more likely I am to make my goal).

    I don't do that anymore. I'll still flash for a tip (at least $5, can't tell you how many guys will give me $1 and expect a flash.) Honestly, I don't think showing my boobs in free chat lost me any money. But I do think it attracts more assholes that are more likely to demand to see more in free chat. I feel like I'm getting better quality guys and not working quite as hard now that I've raised my rates and show very little for free.

    Just wanted to add: last week I had a guy tip me $20 just to see my feet. $2 a toe isn't too shabby.
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    Sometimes I feel like I have to really push the envelope to get a gold show at all. I will have 20 people in the room and I work my ass off to tease em. I will go topless and show toys...even suck on the cock toy to entice them to send gold and only 1 or 2 will even contribute for the show. I won't show naked pussy at all. I will show ass and slide my hand down into my panties but that's it. I think it really depends on what customers u have in the preshow, because when I have this one guy, he tends to pump the other ones up a bit and its a success, but otherwise I do better in pvts.

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