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    Duh Honest Rape: Defined

    I swear, each time Piers Morgan asks political candidates questions regarding abortion, their answers get more and more insane.

    I thought Rick Santorum's response couldn't be topped.... then a guy named Ron Paul cranked the insane-o-meter to 11....

    Dr. Paul talks about "Honest Rape" here: http://jezebel.com/5882692/ron-paul-...ht-to-abortion
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    It's a shame that so many people so drastically misunderstand rape. I guess it's a good thing that they obviously have never had this affect them in their lives, because if it had, I'm sure they'd be singing a different tune.

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    Ugh, this made me feel a bit ill. It scares me that some people think like that.

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    I'm mystified.... mystified.... and lost for words really.

    The man is was a fucking OB/GYN! How the.... what the.... who the....
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    sometimes i wish that these idiots were just fucking with us all.

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    There are some politicians that you can tell only say stupid shit because they have to get all the stupid people to vote for them. This guy though clearly believes all the idiotic shit that comes out his mouth, which makes him scarier than the other idiots.
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    No. Just . . . . just . . . . no.

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    Im baffled at how people like this form their opinions. Im so glad i live in a country where a womans right to choose is not questioned (so far, hell, you never know what might happen) but its scary as hell. Abortion is still one of those issues that carries such a negative stigma to a woman who chooses to have one whether it be through rape or circumstances or whatever, its always a touchy subject. So is rape in itself. I suppose my issue is that how could a middle aged man understand what it would be like to be the victim of a pregnancy after rape? Or pregnancy at all? How could he ever appreciate the complete mind fuck that ensues after either event?? Baffled.
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    Ronald Ernest "Ron" Paul (born August 20, 1935)

    This might have something to do with how different some find his view on this matter...... A matter that is never easily discussed...... And for that reason I will not discuss it..... I will say Dr. Paul was an OBGYN and has delivered thousand of babies into the world.

    From the link posted....... I found the video interview better than the blog comments, and would suggest anyone who goes to the site, to hear what Dr. Paul said.



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    There's a difference between a pregnancy where the fetus is not viable and a pregnancy where the fetus is. My son was born at 31 weeks gestation, so I know what a premature baby looks like--and because there were lots of neonates that were born earlier than him (25, 26 weeks) in his area of the hospital I saw them too.

    A 12 week old embryo and a 25 week old fetus are different, one has a chance to live and one doesn't. I don't support late term abortion unless there is a serious malformation or defect found late in the pregnancy or the mother's life is at risk.
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    Oh I thought that was going to be a news article. It is a blog, really only an opinion piece.

    Ron Paul is against big govt and big govt intervention. While he has come out against abortion as his personal opinion, Ron Paul has repeatedly stressed that the decision in the matter is for the Individual States to decide.

    He is a Medical Doctor and an OB/Gyn. What did you really think his personal opinion on abortion might be? He is against. However, He also against government intervention in the matter too.

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    I think the term "honest rape' is just hilarious in and of itself. Those are two words I'd NEVER thought I'd see stuck together. I giggle at the sheer STUPIDITY of it.

    I wonder what the definition of "dishonest rape" is? lolz.

    Also, yes, this whole topic makes me feel ill if I actually try to take it seriously. Instead I just roll my eyes and call them all idiots.



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    Wow "Honest Rape" who's brilliant term was this? It's a weird combination. You feel good for a split second and see rape the next. Then you feel sick. I feel I need Honest Therapy after those words flow together through my mind.

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    I think Ron Paul is just showing his age. In his day "Honest" was synonymous with "Actual".

    Like asking someone if that is their "honest" opinion. A southern colloquialism that is fading away as the various regional dialects die due to the homogenization brought on by the emulation of movies and tv.

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    Fucking disgusting.
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    The irony is that Ron Paul would be many liberals' wet dream if it weren't for this. I would vote for him in a heartbeat if it weren't for this one disgusting stance (it doesn't help that he's a creationist either). The one thing I will hand to him is that he wouldn't impose his horrible and offensive personal beliefs on states. But then again that isn't saying much, because he has to know that if the legality of abortion is determined on a state by state basis, women may have to travel for days or buy a plane ticket in order to get to the closest state where abortions are legal, assuming they have the time and money in the first place. Women in the middle of the bible belt would be fuckeddddd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    I'm mystified.... mystified.... and lost for words really.

    The man is was a fucking OB/GYN! How the.... what the.... who the....
    What?!?! Omg, we really are on our way to hell in a handbasket! I just hope my VIP seats are reserved, Oi!
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    So what's an honest rape gotta be? Girl had to be a virgin? Couldn't have been her boyfriend? Does it have to be like a movie scene where she gets beat up and left for dead on the side of the road, also? WTF

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    ^Honest rape probably means....well, that she actually didn't deserve it.

    Not like one of those sluts who actually DO deserve to get raped. Y'know the kinda women I'm talking about; Girls who go out clubbing with short skirts and get too drunk, girls who hang out with shady men and wear low cut tops and tight jeans, girls who walk home alone at night when they should OBVIOUSLY know better.

    Oh yeah, and strippers. Lets not forget that you can't HONESTLY Rape a stripper - shes' asking for it anyway.


    At least, this is what the statement "Honest Rape" implies to me.



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    I think he means that a woman isn't lying about being raped just to get an abortion

    That said, Ron Paul has really disappointed me as a candidate. I thought he was running on less government intrusion into the lives of citizens, and I would have assumed this meant that he would've kept his hands off abortion rights.

    Guess not....

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    My feeling is that a lot of the Republican candidates are doing their best to cater to the really extreme right-wing conservatives, instead of to the more moderate Republicans, which actually make up the majority of the party (though you wouldn't know it, as they certainly aren't the most vocal). I think this is going to be a mistake for them come election day, because they'll have alienated the moderates in this country with their extreme rhetoric, and they'll have irreparably divided the party itself by attacking each other and constantly attempting to one-up each other with the weird fundamentalist Christian shit. And the thing is, Ron Paul is supposedly a Libertarian, not a Republican--I know that a lot of my friends who were big Ron Paul fans have become very disenchanted with what they view as his "selling out" to become more mainstream and appeal to the really vocal Tea Party Christian people. I know a third party candidate would never win the presidency, but I would think he would know better than attempting to run with the Republicans, as he is NOT getting any airplay like the rest of the candidates. Fox News virtually ignores him. Why would he continue to try and fit in with that base when they don't even acknowledge him?

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    ^^I don't know if you knew this but Ron Paul has a HUGE following on Reddit, and it seems like he targets young, idealistic, smart, internet savvy guys (and does a great job of it too). There are plenty of reasons why he's so effective with them. They're invested in politics without having a longstanding party identity they might feel weird about contradicting (many of his supporters are liberals). His voting history demonstrates a logical consistency that appeals to them. His principles are simple enough for anyone to understand but subversive enough that they can feel edgy and smart voting for him. What might be the most important factor in his success with this demographic is that without the kind of funding other candidates have, he really can only look to the internet for publicity. He does well with what he has in my opinion (I like this ad in particular: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKfuS6gfxPY).

    I was intrigued by him a while ago and did some research to decide whether I would vote for him. The only thing that killed it for me was his stance on abortion. It actually makes sense that he wouldn't want the Federal government to have the authority to keep abortion legal within states -- this is consistent with everything he stands for. That lost him my vote, but not my respect. He only lost my respect after I started reading things like this. Sexist, racist, creationist

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