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    Quote Originally Posted by sammii View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but I have no clue what you're talking about.

    Just because someone is homeless, doesn't mean their a criminal.
    And most of the panhandlers I saw weren't even homeless but con artists. I'll be damned if I am going to give con artists my money I worked for.

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    I was just telling my step mom that instead of stripping on the weekends I should beg, too. I'll just put on a cute bikini and my work shoes and hold up a sign that reads: PLEASE HELP, NEED BOOB JOB, ANYTHING HELPS, THANKS AND GOD BLESS.

    At least I wouldn't be lying about being pregnant, homeless, wounded in combat, or about how I would be spending the money.

    Meh.

    Oh and if I saw some chick doing this on the street I'd totally empty out all my change and give her a five on top of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    My experience to in Colorado Springs, Denver, Portland OR , Seattle, Nashville, and Madrid Spain.



    Mine too. Though if they pass a with a few visual clues, and the smell test; I have been charitable.

    Visuals - Designer or popular fashion. If they beggar is wearing things every just have to have that season, Fail. Condition of items, such as clothing. Clean clothes in good repair, Fail. The Homeless don't take their clothes off. Their valuables are in the pockets, sometimes under multiple layer. The smell test, the body odor; that sickening taint that hangs over them, lemony tang of old sweat and putrescence of bacteria swarming in the body oils and dead skin cells. Throw in bed bugs and I will give them a ten spot, they can buy dinner or a bottle. Their choice.
    That was the best vivid description EVER.

    Aside from that, even if they're legitimately homeless it still isn't my problem and I do still need MY money for MY bills. Sounds harsh, but c'est la vie. I don't hand out free money, though I have given a bum my leftovers from a restaurant I was carrying once or twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokikola View Post
    I was just telling my step mom that instead of stripping on the weekends I should beg, too. I'll just put on a cute bikini and my work shoes and hold up a sign that reads: PLEASE HELP, NEED BOOB JOB, ANYTHING HELPS, THANKS AND GOD BLESS.
    Well... there's this: http://myfreeimplants.com/.... there is http://www.kickstarter.com/ if you are creative about it...

    Off topic, I know... but yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshooks View Post
    I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my post, and you make a really important point that giving spare change to panhandlers does absolutely nothing to change the conditions under which they live. It's dehumanizing to have to resort to begging for change, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, had I one.
    As well, you're absolutely right that the majority of the low-income and/or homeless population are hidden from view in most major cities, with 'street people' and panhandlers being the sub-category most people associate with poverty, simply because they're out in public where people can see them.

    Which brings me back to why stories about 'fake' beggars infuriate me. I'm not criticing you for posting the link, I was commenting on the fact that stories like these, which are a rare exception, become an emblem for everyone who would prefer to think that poverty is a choice, or even worse non-existent. I KNOW that poverty exists because I work both with and on behalf of people who live far below the poverty line. I'm involved with individuals living in bed-bug infested rooming house rooms with walls crumbling, people who sleep in parks or couch-surf when they're not using the shelter system, people who choose between buying food and paying the rent every single month.
    These aren't dry stats that can be manipulated or tossed off, these are people's lives- I see how they live and how difficult the struggle can be to climb out of poverty. By all means, don't give $$$$ to panhandlers if you wish, but stating that an outrageous story like the only in your link could possibly be an indication of wide-spread 'false' poverty only underscores my point.
    These stories often serve as an excuse to ignore economic injustice..that appalls me as much as the disgusting behaviour of the woman cited in the link.
    I agree with everything you're saying.

    The disgusting level of DECEPTION involved in these examples is what prompted me to post.

    From my experience, dancers are very generous. We tip well, we gift money and loan money, we pay-it-forward, etc.

    But knowing that this person got a handout from me..... that burns. And knowing that my donation could have gone to someone else who truly needed the help.... I can't even put it into words.

    I'm not demonizing anyone but scammers....
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    ^What Sophia said.
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    This is why when I do see a panhandler I give them something useful at the time. Example if it's cold I get them a coffee, tea or a hot chocolate. If hot cold water, anything to hydrate them. If they are asking for money to eat, I go and get them food. I watched a man with crippled legs on the hot ground in PR one day. Everyone that passed ignored him. He was dirty, his feet had horrid callouses and when ever anyone would pass by and ignore him he'd say "God Bless You" after a while I went into a pizza place, got him 2 slices, a muffin and a bottle of water. The man nearly ripped the food out of my hands, began to eat and with a mouth full said "thanks so much, I have not eaten in 2 days" made my heart hurt. I told him about a place he could go and get some help. He told me how every place was full and no one was giving to the charities. I asked him how come he was disabled and on the streets? He told me he was a veteran who got injured, couldn't get a job, lost his apt, and has no one.

    I sat with him for a while, asked him if he was still hungry and he said his stomach hurt now. I told him to wait and I went to the pharmacy and got him a few things, baby wipes, pepto tablets, water, snacks and a few other things. e looked at me and said "why in the world are you doing this? The food was plenty, more than anyone else has ever done" and I said "I believe you and you should not be hungry, in pain and in this situation." At that moment he said "If I weren't so damn filthy I would hug you" I told him it was ok. After all that I asked him if it was ok if I took a picture of him ( I ma a photographer) and he said "ok" but I had already taken one when he was not looking, I told him that and he said "It's ok."

    After that I told him I had to leave and he thanked me like 5 times in a row. I never asked him his name but I think about him often. This bitch in the video makes me ill. She can get a real job and I want to kick her in the face. Sorry for the novel but while there are people in real need this woman ugh I just am angry.

    I hope he is doing well and has gotten the help he truly needs.
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    That's a great story. ^
    SO what do you think about the "show time" kids on the subway?

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    I have no issue giving to legitimate charities, I'm not always making ends meet right now but when I do I give. I've worked with people who did just fine but pan handled on the weekends, and I know for a fact a lot of people who pan handle aren't homeless, I saw them rolling into the casino I worked at hours later with their giant diamond rings, playing the high limit tables. I work goddamn hard for my money, I don't beg, I dildo fuck myself and cough onto a camera until the sun comes up and get up to take care of my son 3-4 hours later. I want to help people who actually need it, I've needed a hand now and then, but my exorbitant taxes go to welfare, section 8 etc. and I give to real charities that make a difference. I don't give to people who are very probably just wasting the money that I could spend on food for my kiddo.

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    i really dont give a fuck what someone does with $ when i give it to them, almost every time i am with someone and i give money to a homeless person they lecture me about how they are probably just going to buy drugs with it. i always tell them if i was homeless i would hope someone gave me cash so i could buy drugs too lol i would be depressed as hell if i was homeless.

    this story doesn't bother me at all...they might really need it..they might not...who cares? someone can run up to me and snatch my purse or they can go thru the effort of getting dressed up (down lol) and begging. at least they were creative...they earned it in my eyes
    "Achieving success is a challenge but so is struggling so you may as well choose success."

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    I was curious so went searching-- one man did an experiment with different signs and here's his results panhandling:
    http://blog.hostgator.com/2007/11/28...omes-homeless/

    *stolen from AutumnAmbrosia*

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    Default Re: SCAM: Fake Beggar-Lady

    That is exactly why I won't give money to the bums around here. A lot of them wear decent clean clothing and it's obvious that they are not bad off.

    My first year of university, I actually hung around with a couple of panhandlers for a few days. They were kids my age and were fresh out of jail and unemployed, so they were pretty legit. However, they weren't the wisest about the money they got - a lady offered to go get the girl Jack in the Box, and she declined because it was her boyfriend's birthday and she wanted money to take him to a buffet for dinner. The lady kinda let her have it for that... I don't really blame her, I'd be eating off the $1 menu and trying to save to get some decent clothes and a shower somewhere...
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