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    Caming would be a great money maker for all. There would be no free chat, just pics to see and bios to read to make a decision. There would be no beggars because when you entered a room you would be paying with no 30 secs to see if you like it! I just don't understand why US cam sites don't see it this way. Why have us wasting time to talk to these dudes? Guys really don't need teasing women do! Guys are always ready to jerk off. Playboy ring a bell. So pics would be a great thing to do instead of free chat! Or have free chat with no cam until you go private like IMLIVE does. I again don't see the need for us to have to tease and talk to these dudes we should be masturbating all the time we are on. I see girls un free chat for longer than 10 mins and that is crazy. How much time do they really need to decide? Cam sites have made it too easy for them. They jacked off to pics in playboy this is live! Just my two cents.

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    I've never understood why SM has a 30 second preview AND free chat. WTF? Guys abuse this all the time! Preview?? Isn't that what free chat is for?

    SM y u make it so easy for freeloaders???

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    When I first started camming way way back when on Ifriends, this is how it was. Stupid me only did it part time and kept my crappy day job for the "security".

    If only I had quit my stupid day job then and banked and put the money away for the future! The "secure" job wasn't secure at all.

    Honestly though, no use crying over it now. Everything has changed.

    Whatever you want to say about the 30 seconds free and the free chat, what SM does, does work! All you have to do is work Imlive then work SM and compare your earnings/traffic and you can see for yourself. Sad but true.


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    Yes if only. But its the % that gets me 30%/35% for your hard work.
    Don't Like Me? Have A Seat With The Rest Of The Bitches And Bastards Waiting For Me To Give A Flying Fuck.

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    I really don't mind free chat either, it's just the damn 30 second preview on top of that. All those guys popping in for 30 seconds then leaving and you don't get paid for any of them.


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    That is apparently exactly how it used to be, but trends in the last couple years are going in the complete opposite direction.

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    I see! I love nude chat on cams.com I don't have to talk to them while waiting for a show! Free chat bores me to tears lol.

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    I love free chat. It is what you make it. If you engage guys and be friendly and fun, not only will you not be bored, you will make more money.

    I do disagree with the 30 second thing tho. Other than that, free chat helps you make money if you know how to work it.
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    Free chat bores me to tears too. I'm not a naturally outgoing person, so it takes a lot of effort to smile and be friendly and fun...especially for free lol. I hate being asked the same questions over and over and dealing with begging. I'd rather just do privates the whole time because playing with myself and doing fetish stuff is fun for me. I do everything I can to make free chat fun but so far it still is boring and tedious as far as I'm concerned

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    i don't mind the free chat on MFC it is actually easier for me to work it than SM free chat but SM wears me out sooo bad. i don't have a problem making decent money on SM but it just over works me to the bone and i get ALOT of beggars there too. the 30 thing pisses me off to no end. it should be one OR the other. i can see them having a 30 sec preview if there was no free chat but them getting both, they can get off for free over and over again. yea ur right, SM makes it way to good for the freeloaders. they might as well be handing them our pussy's on a silver platter.

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    I was talking about free chat on SM btw... FUCK free chat on MFC. FUCK FUCK FUCK IT.

    Wait, I guess that is what girls do.... literally.
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    i don't fuck myself in free chat on MFC by the way. i play games for tokens and as far as i go is flashes and stripteasing, i do prvts and group shows for hardcore. that is what i meant by that. other girls do what they do, that isn't my problem. i have always been against hardcore in public and won't ever lower myself to those standards.

    ETA: i wanted to add that i like the community atmosphere on MFC, that is was draws me in. it is a culture of it's own and it can either make you or break you. non-nude models can make good money on there too. it has a feel to it that you just do not get with SM. i find that i always had MORE beggars on SM than i ever did on MFC but then again, everyone's experiences with that site are different.

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    MFC was the worse for me bt maybe it has gotten better. I am loving cams.com right now. I may try MFC again.

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    I do actually like free chat the majority of the time. It really depends who is on meaning if I'm getting asked the same things over an over with no chatters it drives me nuts, but if I have a couple of my regular guys on and even new ones who talk to you then I enjoy it. Hell I've taught a few guys anatomy and physiology, we've discussed the Cold and Vietnam wars, and so many other topics. I'll talk about lots of stuff, I've even had a few guys ask me medical questions because of my degree program and I've told a couple of guys that they should see their doctor for certain things.

    About the 30 second hoppers, they drive me nuts too. I can't stand it, but it may be a necessary evil. I say this cause I was actually reading some programming info on a platform development site like SM uses. One of the terms for their cc processing was allowing the guys to have a 30 second preview. There was however a way to limit it to a certain number of times per 24 hour period per girl. So it may actually be part of their cc processing requirements in order to reduce the number of chargebacks they incur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElianaIsis View Post
    I do actually like free chat the majority of the time. It really depends who is on meaning if I'm getting asked the same things over an over with no chatters it drives me nuts, but if I have a couple of my regular guys on and even new ones who talk to you then I enjoy it. Hell I've taught a few guys anatomy and physiology, we've discussed the Cold and Vietnam wars, and so many other topics. I'll talk about lots of stuff, I've even had a few guys ask me medical questions because of my degree program and I've told a couple of guys that they should see their doctor for certain things.

    About the 30 second hoppers, they drive me nuts too. I can't stand it, but it may be a necessary evil. I say this cause I was actually reading some programming info on a platform development site like SM uses. One of the terms for their cc processing was allowing the guys to have a 30 second preview. There was however a way to limit it to a certain number of times per 24 hour period per girl. So it may actually be part of their cc processing requirements in order to reduce the number of chargebacks they incur.
    Oh, hmm that actually makes a lot of sense. I wonder if there is a limit on the number of times they can come in and out...? I've had a few guys jump in and out several times before I could click on them and block them. Maybe I should have hubby test it out!
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    I'm not sure if SM limits them, but on the specific platform I was looking at you could limit it to I think 1, 2, 5, or unlimited. You could also limit the amount of time they could sit in freechat without going private which was nice.

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    Yes if we could limit then that would be great also! All guys really need is 5 to 10 seconds to see if they want you! If they have more questions they can ask in prvt chat because I don't get naked right away anyway! I like to talk a little first.

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    i honestly don't believe that SM limits them cuz i have had lots of assholes in and out of prvt several times back to back 30 sec free previews. they got so damn good at it that it became a fucking art to them. they are so fast for me to ban it is fucking unbelievable. i wish we could just ban them by entering they're name in a box like i could on webcams.com instead of trying to catch them live. it is ridiculous. those guys piss me off so bad i feel like stabbing them. errrr.

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    Someone made a thread about a month or two ago about reducing the 30 second peepers. Her technique was charging her exclusive rates less expensive than her private sessions. That's pretty clever because then most customers would go for the less expensive price and at the same time only person at a time can enter into a session so you'll have more control over when someone enters your private time and you don't have to worry about guys waiting around to when they think you're nude and trying to freeload.

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    when i get back on SM i think that is what i will do from now on. thnx

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    It would be better if the payout percentages were higher. That's the main downer right there. 50% would be great but if we could get 40 or 45% at least that would be progress it's not like it's going to kill these main sites if they raised up 5-10% more.

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    I can deal with free chat between shows on SM..I just wish the guys would talk more. It takes some time to get used to the "show tits, show feet" but when I emphasize that "only TALK is free" not a show, that shuts them up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kittykrane View Post
    I can deal with free chat between shows on SM..I just wish the guys would talk more. It takes some time to get used to the "show tits, show feet" but when I emphasize that "only TALK is free" not a show, that shuts them up.
    YES! My Husband and I had our countdown for our gold show and had plenty of ppl in the room and while they were pledging they wasn't even saying anything! Then again, some nights we have chatters. I dunno, its crazy how they do sometimes. We like it when they talk to us. I used to say hello to everyone that came in the room. But lately when I say "Hey Bigdickmike" how are you tonight?" they leave lol. So now I wait for them to talk first. It's easier to do that on our couples account because I have someone there with me to talk to and engage with if they are just sitting there. lmao






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    i don't know if this is wrong or what, but that pisses me off too when no one says shit. when ppl come in and don't even bother to say hi. i look right into the cam and say "hi" in a sorta cocky kinda way and if no one stills says shit, i say "well ur parents obviously didn't teach u shit, i am just gonna starting kicking one by one if not at least one person bothers to day hi to me" that usually gets a few to start talking. LOL! it's fucking rude, i don't care how they think of us. ur planning on fucking me in prvt maybe and you don't even bother to day hi?! don't get me wrong, i don't kick out lurkers, that's only if NO ONE even bothers to say hi to me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyRose View Post
    Someone made a thread about a month or two ago about reducing the 30 second peepers. Her technique was charging her exclusive rates less expensive than her private sessions. That's pretty clever because then most customers would go for the less expensive price and at the same time only person at a time can enter into a session so you'll have more control over when someone enters your private time and you don't have to worry about guys waiting around to when they think you're nude and trying to freeload.
    There are 2 problems with that.

    1.) Often times they must take you to group before they can take you exclusive (or even see that option) if they've never taken you before. I'm not sure what the criteria is.

    2.) You may be losing profit because you won't be able to have more than one guy in there at the same time. If you offer only fetish, that would be practical, but I think most girls on here are vanilla girls or offer both.

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