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    Isn't it always the case?
    Man comes to a strip club and spend hundreds on lap dances for a girl.
    Girl feels so grateful that he's such a decent respectful human being who would never degrade her.
    Man spend more and more on gifts and lap dances and boob jobs buying her affection.
    Girl allows him even more private time as long as he pays for them.
    Man loves girl long time.
    Girl loves man long time.
    Man wants to take girl out for a romantic dinner.
    Girl thinks man gone psycho.
    Man gets shun.
    Girl repeats her Gentle Cycle.

    P.S. Man never touches her boobs or kitty during the entire incident. GOOD MAN

    Why would any man do this if they are not a pathetic loser? Come-on ladies, you know you wanna LOL with me!
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    Yoda..our friend is back asking questions to the meaning of life...lol

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    LOL comeon, you know it's true.. they know it's true. It's the game right?

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    If you are going to ask questions you need to be respectful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asianlover1028 View Post
    Isn't it always the case?
    Man comes to a strip club and spend hundreds on lap dances for a girl.
    Girl feels so grateful that he's such a decent respectful human being who would never degrade her.
    Man spend more and more on gifts and lap dances and boob jobs buying her affection.
    Girl allows him even more private time as long as he pays for them.
    Man loves girl long time.
    Girl loves man long time.
    Man wants to take girl out for a romantic dinner.
    Girl thinks man gone psycho.
    Man gets shun.
    Girl repeats her Gentle Cycle.

    P.S. Man never touches her boobs or kitty during the entire incident. GOOD MAN

    Why would any man do this if they are not a pathetic loser? Come-on ladies, you know you wanna LOL with me!

    What you are describing above is not a strip club regular but rather your twisted and angry take on what goes on in clubs between dancers and their regulars. Sorry but it's simply not the case. Are there guys who over do it? Yes, most certainly. Are there dancers who will lead a guy on? Yes, there are. Is this what happens most of the time? Not in my experience and I'm willing to bet that I've been going to clubs since before you knew what tits and ass were.

    Dancers dance. It's a job. They do it for money. They are entertainers there for the customer's enjoyment. If a customer pays for a dancer's time and treats her the way any woman deserves to be treated-with respect-everything is fine. That is the essence of the proper dancer/customer relationship. Now, I'm a realist. I'm not going to blow smoke up anyone's ass as far as contact or lack of it goes. Clubs and contact levels are different all over the country, heck, all over the world. I club in a particularly high contact region and, regardless of what anyone may think, touching a dancer does not automatically mean that you are disrespecting her. The dancer makes the call however, not the customer. When you do something she doesn't want you to do that is when you are disrespecting her.

    When a customer loses sight of the fact that that the lady is working, not trolling for dates, that is on him, not the lady. I've said this before but it never ceases to amaze me that women get tagged as being the more emotional of the species but it's men who can't seem to separate their heart from their penis. Strip clubs are meant to be venues of entertainment, not singles bars.

    Asianlover, the time clock on your stay here is running out. If you have something to say, say it with respect. If you've come here with a chip on your shoulders and revenge on your mind you've come to the wrong place. This is a no troll zone so it's time for you to step up or shut up. You've got both moderators of this board telling you publicly to be nice. It might be a good idea to listen.
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    i vote for banning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camille27 View Post
    i vote for banning.
    I second the motion.

    I'll play devil's advocate on most things, but this tirade is completely void of couth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asianlover1028 View Post

    P.S. Man never touches her boobs or kitty during the entire incident. GOOD MAN

    Why would any man do this if they are not a pathetic loser? Come-on ladies, you know you wanna LOL with me!
    Dear Mr. Genius,

    I'm quite sure you don't recognize how much of yourself you are revealing in your "English" writing.

    I understand that you:

    -don't have a girlfriend;

    -are angry that the dancers here tell you what you are doing is rude and they don't like it;

    -harbor snotty, inaccurate and baseless stereotypes about dancers;

    -have little or no opportunity to be physical with women in real life;

    -have very little money to begin with;

    -are deeply angry that others have money that you do not;

    and feel that the solution here is to throw the term "pathetic loser" at people who treat the dancers better than you do, in fact, treat them as gifted entertainers -- and pay them a great deal of money in the course of doing so -- which at the end of the day leaves those dancers and their customers very happy -- a fact that you don't understand at all -- and at the end of the night leaves you alone, broke, ignored and on the street all by yourself.

    Broke and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

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    Yes, yes, we all get it - you are THE MAN. You can get any chick and any action for free and those who pay in SCs and act like decent human beings are losers, because you clearly have figured out the "cool-kids' way" to disrespect women for whatever you want. We all get it... you are "da fucking bomb" of a man. Please take it to someone who gives a shit.
    Don't try to win over the haters. You are not the Jerk Whisperer.

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    no the biggest losers of them all are cam regulars---seriously.

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    Asian, why are you using a fake accent?

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    Aww, poor baby. I'm sorry this happened to you. Maybe now you'll remember this is a business and we are at work.
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    ha! *high-fives*
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    Hey, I really resent this post! If a very beautiful dancer enjoys your company and wants you as a regular, consider yourself lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asianlover1028 View Post
    Isn't it always the case?
    Man comes to a strip club and spend hundreds on lap dances for a girl.
    Girl feels so grateful that he's such a decent respectful human being who would never degrade her.
    Man spend more and more on gifts and lap dances and boob jobs buying her affection.
    Girl allows him even more private time as long as he pays for them.
    Man loves girl long time.
    Girl loves man long time.
    Man wants to take girl out for a romantic dinner.
    Girl thinks man gone psycho.
    Man gets shun.
    Girl repeats her Gentle Cycle.

    P.S. Man never touches her boobs or kitty during the entire incident. GOOD MAN

    Why would any man do this if they are not a pathetic loser? Come-on ladies, you know you wanna LOL with me!
    This just shows that you don't know your ass from your elbow when it comes to clubs or customers.

    Does this type of thing happen? Sure it does, but it is not very common and it is really more the portrait of a dumb strip club novice rather than that of a SC regular.

    In the more typical scenario, the guy visits a girl periodically and spends on her and she entertains him through sensuality, wit, humor, etc. Net-net, they both win. After a period of time, either he gets bored with her and starts looking for another favorite or she starts to disengage because he is becoming too difficult in one way or another. Eventually, he moves on and finds another girl to entertain him and she continues to refresh her crop of regulars. Rinse, repeat.

    Now there are other variations on this, which include:

    1. He moves on when he realizes that she will never, ever meet him outside of the club (somewhat common);
    2. He moves on when he realizes that she will never, ever have sex with him (somewhat common);
    3. The relationship eventually spills outside the club with occasional, non-sexual meal invitations and/or other events, which extends the life of the reg/fav relationship for some period of time (sometimes happens, but don't count on it);
    4. After he spends a certain amount on her over time, she does decide to engage in OTC p4p with him, which extends the life of the reg/fav relationship for some period of time (sometimes happens, but don't count on it);
    5. He gets too attached to her, which leads to her disengaging early (sometimes happens);
    6. She offers p4p at the get go, which leads to a reg/fav relationship based upon sex for cash (happens in some dirtier clubs); and
    7. Any variety of other plausible situations involving two human beings.


    Others here are more patient than I, so I'll leave them to educate you further. I would suggest, however, that you spend some time in the clubs before you come on here opining about how customer/dancer relationships work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asianlover1028 View Post
    Isn't it always the case?
    Man comes to a strip club and spend hundreds on lap dances for a girl.
    Girl feels so grateful that he's such a decent respectful human being who would never degrade her.
    Man spend more and more on gifts and lap dances and boob jobs buying her affection.
    Girl allows him even more private time as long as he pays for them.
    Man loves girl long time.
    Girl loves man long time.
    Man wants to take girl out for a romantic dinner.
    Girl thinks man gone psycho.
    Man gets shun.
    Girl repeats her Gentle Cycle.

    P.S. Man never touches her boobs or kitty during the entire incident. GOOD MAN

    Why would any man do this if they are not a pathetic loser? Come-on ladies, you know you wanna LOL with me!
    I know you are a troll but I have nothing better to do except answer your question. No, men who come into the club who are strictly there for the entertainment are not losers if they are paying and don't expect more. Men who aren't paying are losers no matter what and they are the ones most dancers will never date. I'm going to be blunt: pretty women have power over men and they know it. This is especially true in the clubs where generally speaking the hottest girls of the population work. Men grovel at their feet and the men who don't expect to pay in return find themselves laughed at. Guess what? this translates to the real world too. Pretty women are always at an advantage.

    Why you cheap men think you stand a chance I will never know. When I was dancing I NEVER talked to a cheapass no matter what he looked like. Men who spent money on me and knew the score got my attention. I have never taken advantage of any men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asianlover1028 View Post
    Isn't it always the case?
    Come-on ladies, you know you wanna LOL with me!
    To answer your questions:
    No, it is not always the case.

    And no, I don't want to LOL with you, or do anything else with you for that matter.
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    I know this may be hard to believe but most of us become strippers because it's a job, we do it for the money.

    Last time I checked most women don't become strippers to meet guys and if they do they usually don't last long.

    I know you think of yourself as a Prince Charming who is courting a woman but you aren't courting a woman, you are paying for a fantasy. Guys who can't tell the difference between courting a woman and a strip club fantasy ruin it for everyone.

    It's her job, you are her fucking customer and wanting more from her is like asking McDonalds to fix you breakfast in bed.

    Sometimes guys give us things, buy us things. It's nice and it's hard to turn-down nice things and either way we are screwed, if we accept something or don't accept something.. A guy who can't understand that being a stripper is a job or that he is paying for a fantasy, a guy like that almost always blames the stripper for his own stupidity and it sounds like that is what you are doing. You are asking us to laugh at the poor innocent victim so you can blame us more and focus on your anger, hatred maybe. But you only have yourself to blame. Learn to approach women with something other than money, strip clubs are not the dollar store.

    Do you think that because you pay to see a movie that you can have your way with the girl who sold you the ticket? Because it's the same exact thing. Stop letting your small brain do all your thinking for you.

    And this attempt at laying a mass guilt trip is just creepy and pathetic. Why don't you get to know a girl as a person instead of a fantasy you can ply with money? Although I am an atheist I would suggest that you try to meet someone at church or some other activity where people can get to know one another for who they are. All you are getting to know in the strip club is an act. We get paid when we are nice to guys. We get paid when we are seductive. But the gist is it's a job, and we do what we can to get paid. It's about the money. We don't come to your place of work and try to get you to go home with us. End of rant.
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    I am Korean, but my English is very good so here is my shotty attempt at an accent in reply to this thread. FYI I don't hate white men, but I know many Asians that have these notions in their head:

    Why you go to strip club? You think pretty girl want to date you?! You think you Spider man and meet Lois Lane there?

    You stupid white man!



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    ^Hahahahaha, that was sooooo funny!!!!

    It reminded of this picture:

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetravelergirl View Post
    ...A guy who can't understand that being a stripper is a job or that he is paying for a fantasy, a guy like that almost always blames the stripper for his own stupidity and it sounds like that is what you are doing. You are asking us to laugh at the poor innocent victim so you can blame us more and focus on your anger, hatred maybe. But you only have yourself to blame. Learn to approach women with something other than money, strip clubs are not the dollar store.

    Do you think that because you pay to see a movie that you can have your way with the girl who sold you the ticket? Because it's the same exact thing. Stop letting your small brain do all your thinking for you.
    I agreed with a lot of what you said, but you lost me a bit with this stuff.

    First, only certain strippers - usually new ones - actually believe that customers are there to buy the "fantasy." Most customers are buying the time/services of an attractive, sexy woman. For some of us, her ability to entertain and have a conversation is also important, but IME "fantasy" seldom plays a role for most customers. I deal with a heck of a lot of strippers each year and I can say that a good number of them are anything but a fantasy - LOL.

    Second, comparing what a stripper does to the role played by movie theatre ticket girls and other people who simply process customer transactions just doesn't hold water. While it is certainly a job for her, for the customers there is a personal element to it as it involves his enjoyment of interacting with, and his attraction to, the dancer. What a dancer does with customers is far more personal than what retail employees or other folks do with their customers. And of course the guys are thinking with their small brains - isn't that part of the point when they are patronizing a strip club?

    Anyway, I certainly agree in principle with much of what you said, but IMHO it is a little naive to think that guys are going to view you in the same way as they view the grocery store checkout girl. I know that guys who get wrapped up in it are a pain in the ass and I can certainly understand your frustration, but it really should come as no surprise that this happens now and again and, IME, there are some skilled dancers out there that have developed some fairly effective ways to manage the issue.

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    You are looking at it from the guy's point of view, making sense of it from the male or customer perspective. I know I can't speak for all strippers but in my experience I have sat with customers I would never sit with outside of the club. I have had long conversations with customers I would never do that with outside of the club. Sure.. I have met some decent guys but for the most part even the simple stuff like accepting a drink, smiling, having an engaging conversation, being friends.. its because of the money and if it wasn't for the money it would never happen.

    So yes it is a fantasy, a guy comes into a club and someone is happy to see him, no wait... someone see's that a wallet came into the club. And like I said, there are some decent guys and it isn't always that way but mostly it's that way.

    If I was in a regular bar and not working.. I wouldn't be the same person as I am in the club. It's an act that most of us put on for the customers and we call them customers because it's a financial arrangement.

    And while our interaction may seem more intimate than my movie ticket girl analogy it is generally only turning on one person and that person isn't me but if I act all turned on and happy and alluring... then it's like I am an actress (because I am) and you bought a ticket to an act but you don't get to take me home or have sex with me and the truth is I was never turned on. Rubbing my butt on your lap doesn't do anything for me except maybe it's good exercise, all I am thinking about is whether or not I am going to get that next dance or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OJenni! View Post
    Why you go to strip club? You think pretty girl want to date you?! You think you Spider man and meet Lois Lane there?
    I hate to play the role of politically-correct police here, but what you wrote is pretty messed up. Superman / Clark Kent pursued Lois Lane. Spider man first pursued Mary Jane. They're not even in the same comicverse. Superman is DC, and Spiderman is Marvel. Sheesh!
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    LOL life. Believe me when I say that I'm operating under no illusions about how the dynamics work and I don't think that a lot of other more seasoned club visitors are either. I spend 80+ nights per year in clubs spread all over the country and have been doing this for a long time. Shit, last year alone I could have hired a full time employee for what I spent on strippers.

    Would the very hot 22 year old girl that was sitting with me just last night have been doing so if we met at a bar? Not very likely - she is almost half my age and doubtlessly has many young studs vying for her attention IRL. I understand exactly why these girls seem happy to see me and I have certainly not convinced myself that it is because of my rugged good looks and sharp intellect, so I'm not sure what "fantasy" I am supposedly buying. I am there to be entertained, period. If a girl entertains me, she gets paid. If not, then she gets moved along to make room for someone who does. Simple.

    And I am sure that you are not turned on by giving lapdances and quite obviously a guy shouldn't expect to take you home because you gave him one, but drawing an analogy between giving a lapdance and selling the guy a movie ticket did seem to have its own "fantasy" feel to it. It is a far more intimate service, even if it is just a job for you. And, since it is NOT a job for the guys you are giving them to, it is understandable that, every once in a while, you will have a guy who gets too caught up in it -particularly one who is a relative SC novice.

    Sorry for the semi-rant here, but when I hear this "fantasy" theory in the clubs, it is almost invariably from the youngest strippers with the most brittle personalities, so I have developed a somewhat knee-jerk reaction to this. It seems that they really need to believe this just to keep themselves going and they are often the least entertaining of any dancers that I deal with. I am not saying this is you, but simply my experience with those girls who espouse the belief that they are selling "the fantasy."

    Anyway, just my
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    Yes, to me "fantasy" doesn't have to mean something sexual, it just means that the money is creating an experience that wouldn't happen on it's own. Movies have occasionally touched my soul, caused me to cry, changed how I think... etc. I would describe that experience as a form of intimacy. Someone had a story to tell and used "art" to do it. When someone or some thing reaches into my soul that way... it can be powerful. But the actors and actresses are just saying their lines and acting. They might not even agree with the message the movie is conveying, no matter how convincing they are. They do it for the money or for their love of acting.

    What seems intimate to you... probably doesn't seem like intimacy to someone who does it five days a week for the money. So when you talk about the "intimacy" it's not something I can relate to. Being a stripper, I just try to maintain boundaries, make money and not get sucked into any otc.
    Smoking fetish guys need you to use real cigarettes ...
    Quote Originally Posted by AureliaC View Post
    Because they want it to slowly kill you, it's 90% of the appeal lol

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