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    I've been on SM since 11AM EST and it's now 1:43. I've only made $30. I have a bad habit of logging off too much on SM, and I thought it was affecting my money, and since I never know when a big spender will come on, I've made myself stay on this whole time. It's almost been 2 hours since I've gotten a private. I have a bunch of guys coming in and not saying shit, so I've given up on saying hey to everybody who enters my room. I have a fast computer, fast internet, fast HD cam, I'm using my audio and encoder. I just want to scream. I haven't been answering guys requests (Ex: can i see your ass/body?) and instead have told them to check out my pics, because I'm sick of showing my body off to guys who aren't even spending. I just got on DP and I know alot of girls said it affected their traffic, but for how long? I've been on SM for 3 years and have never had a shitty day like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighHeelHottie View Post
    I just got on DP and I know alot of girls said it affected their traffic, but for how long? I've been on SM for 3 years and have never had a shitty day like this.


    But how would being on daily pay affect your traffic in a negative way? I'd imagine the only difference would be that you get a little bit less of the percentage (as opposed to working on SM WITHOUT daily pay).
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    I hear ya. . . I was on same amount of time with only 18 dollars made boo!!! takin a break right now lol

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    I am assuming she lost her placement. Do you know what page you are on?

    Hang in there. You will move back up. It takes dedication but you can get back there.

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    But how would being on daily pay affect your traffic in a negative way? I'd imagine the only difference would be that you get a little bit less of the percentage (as opposed to working on SM WITHOUT daily pay).
    Do you not need to start with a new account to do DP? Meaning that she's 'new' again? X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlodina View Post
    Do you not need to start with a new account to do DP? Meaning that she's 'new' again? X


    Ahh, okay! Yeah, you are correct. With DP you have to start over. Sorry for my ignorance...lol. I need to put some food in my belly. I've been logged into ImLive and sitting here in a hot room with cramps. I need to get up and eat something.
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    Well, like most of you girls here...I had been since 10 AM, and only have made $18 on SM today lol so maybe today is a extremely slow day who knows....my position must be very bad, cause I dont use the Encoder either HD...but there you go.

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    Sometimes its just a shitty day. Honestly. Yesterday SUCKED for me - I hate hump day.

    Stick with it, if you don't have other things that need doing, or log off and film some clips, or just take a break. Get back on tomorrow, and don't beat yourself up too much.
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    I'm sorry to hear you had a shitty day. Count me in on that one! I did make my goal but it felt like I was pulling teeth. Then again, Thursdays are personally one of my slowest days of the week so it wasn't unexpected.

    Another thing to keep in mind is, it's the 1st so a lot of guys have just paid/are about to pay rent; they may be a little more strapped for cash than usual. I tend to notice a slow down in things around the first of the month, but it always picks up after a couple of days. Just hang in there!

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    I'm having a shitty day too, SM won't let me log in! It says that my email or password is wrong, which they aren't. So I tried to get them to email me my password, and it says "the site could not find any user with that email address." my ass! it's the only email I have ffs! I'm gonna call support in a minute...

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    OMG! Add me to the shitty day on SM list. I was on for all-together about 2 1/2 hrs and only made $35. It has NEVER been this slow for me. When I first logged on I had nobody that would stay in my room. It took an hr to get the 1st pvt.....MY God! And I thought I looked hot too, lol! I'm so glad it isn't just me girls. I also had 2 gold shows to cancel cuz the cheap bastards couldn't even spend $5. When they see gold show they all come to your room like flies on shit just to see what they can for free, then leave when u cancel the show.

    Whatever......tomorrow is a new day

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    On Monday I made 40 bucks in 4 hours, it sounds like SM's going through a slow phase right now. Even though today's been good to me so far, my traffic is really slow compared to what I normally get.



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    Well, on SM yesterday and today were slow...today I only made $18 bucks there in like 4 hours LOL, but I made $50 on Livejasmin in 2 hours, so things complement for me always, when in LJ is slow on SM is great, when on SM is slow on LJ is great for me. I'm gona add Streamray to my splitter so, I do hope with those 3 sites at the same time, if one or two are slow at least the third is fine.

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    Thanks everyone. I'm gonna get some well-needed rest tonight and hope that tomorrow is better...

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    I made 50 in like 4 hours. Seemed kind of slow. I blame some of it on myself tho because I was kind of lazy about trying to get shows/being entertaining in free chat. This thread makes me feel like less of a loser about my earnings today, lol.

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    I've noticed that my traffic has declined, too. Often enough, I'll have the time to go peeking around and see certain girls (not trying to be catty here or poke my nose in others' business) always tend to have hundreds more in their rooms than the girls right next to them in the listings. I used to look around at my listing on other sites but it got tiresome to always have to check and really, they have hundreds (close to a thousand) sites driving traffic to Streamate. I think they call those 'whitelabels'. Basically, sites that have the same structure as Streamate and look to be promoting the same girls. I wonder if those girls with all the traffic are on more of those sites than I am. Surely, they are but ... how the hell are we supposed to know where we're listed and where we're not? This is important to me because Streamate itself has seen a huge decline lately. The other sites may be driving traffic but then where are they? I'd sure like to know why some girls have hundreds of members in their room while I, at my best moment, boobs out for Gold and a room full of members, can only get maximum 40!!!! I've seen some girls with as high as 200 members. Always the same girls. Others, on average, have about 25. Just an observation. What do you girls see?

    P.S. Slow traffic doesn't often equate to less revenues. Sometimes, I make a little less, sometimes a little more, but on average, it evens out. I'm still concerned about the traffic though. If it keeps declining, it's sure to bring down revenues, too, at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amanda36c View Post
    I've noticed that my traffic has declined, too. Often enough, I'll have the time to go peeking around and see certain girls (not trying to be catty here or poke my nose in others' business) always tend to have hundreds more in their rooms than the girls right next to them in the listings. I used to look around at my listing on other sites but it got tiresome to always have to check and really, they have hundreds (close to a thousand) sites driving traffic to Streamate. I think they call those 'whitelabels'. Basically, sites that have the same structure as Streamate and look to be promoting the same girls. I wonder if those girls with all the traffic are on more of those sites than I am. Surely, they are but ... how the hell are we supposed to know where we're listed and where we're not? This is important to me because Streamate itself has seen a huge decline lately. The other sites may be driving traffic but then where are they? I'd sure like to know why some girls have hundreds of members in their room while I, at my best moment, boobs out for Gold and a room full of members, can only get maximum 40!!!! I've seen some girls with as high as 200 members. Always the same girls. Others, on average, have about 25. Just an observation. What do you girls see?

    P.S. Slow traffic doesn't often equate to less revenues. Sometimes, I make a little less, sometimes a little more, but on average, it evens out. I'm still concerned about the traffic though. If it keeps declining, it's sure to bring down revenues, too, at some point.

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    I'm almost positive that every girl that is on Streamate is on every white label site as well. Even the niche ones. I have yet to find myself NOT listed on any Streamate white label. I've found myself on black cam sites, preggo cam sites, asian cam sites... Try googling your Streamate screen name and you will find TONS of white label sites that you are on. If it looks basically the same structure as Stremate, it's a white label.

    So I don't think it's a matter of those with hundreds in their rooms being promoted more. I think it's pretty simple that those are the girls that are more popular, those are the girls that the surfers like. Also, many of them spend a lot of time doing self promoting and bringing their own traffic to the site. Also, not trying to pin point you specifically Amanda, but a lot of guys now are looking for Gold Shows. That's just the reality of it and that's what Stremate has become, and I'm pretty sure you do not do gold shows, right? So that will bring the traffic down significantly. We have to change and adapt to be able to compete, that is true in many things.

    I honestly think it just depends on the individual girl. Streamate has been slow for me the past month, but now all of a sudden this week is going to be my highest earnings week ever on Stremate. And that's not a small number either.... This week has just been absolutely fantastic for me, while others are still struggling. I am not trying to "brag" so please no one take it that way... I'm just saying that I really, really think it depends on the individual girl and what the typical surfers are drawn to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    We have to change and adapt to be able to compete, that is true in many things
    Wise words
    as a qualifier for the following: I don't use sm, I'm speaking more generally to camming as an industry)

    I know alot of peeps have been having a difficult time on sm lately, but honestly, one site does not an accurate industry barometer make, even if the site in question is as large and ubiquitous as is sm.
    Sm is a great site, but I'd be terrified to rely heavily on one sole source of income, particularly when the intro of gold shows demonstrates that even on the same site, customer quality and expectations can alter dramatically in a short period of time.

    Seriously, every chica here should have a quality back-up site, or site to split-cam on when inevitable dry days emerge. Every chica here should analyze our own individual strategy every so often, taking into consideration whether our current approach is the most lucrative, or if money (even great $$$$) can be improved by tweaking our game. There's a million ways to market ourselves, strategize our approaches with our customers, without even tossing away our current cam persona or switching sites. The chicas who have adapted well to the intro of gold shows on sm (by either working them or catering to clients who have no taste for them) are a really valuable example of this.

    Change and adaptation requires conscious thought, and the more we think about how we work the better return we see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amanda36c View Post
    I'd sure like to know why some girls have hundreds of members in their room while I, at my best moment, boobs out for Gold and a room full of members, can only get maximum 40!!!! I've seen some girls with as high as 200 members. Always the same girls. Others, on average, have about 25. Just an observation. What do you girls see?
    I don't think that I have EVER seen a girl with hundreds in her room, and for SM, 40 is a decent number!! Esepcially bearing in mind that the top row girls, who may have around 100, are the ones that are getting "first click" of every guy who comes to the site for the first time and thinks "I wonder what this is about. I'll click this girl on the first row". Having that many more is not necessarily a good thing, because the higher to the top I've got, the more freeloaders and morons seem to appear.

    I wouldn't focus so much on traffic if you are getting 20-40 ppl in your room - remember, more people doesn't necessarily mean more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    I don't think that I have EVER seen a girl with hundreds in her room, and for SM, 40 is a decent number!! Esepcially bearing in mind that the top row girls, who may have around 100, are the ones that are getting "first click" of every guy who comes to the site for the first time and thinks "I wonder what this is about. I'll click this girl on the first row". Having that many more is not necessarily a good thing, because the higher to the top I've got, the more freeloaders and morons seem to appear.

    I wouldn't focus so much on traffic if you are getting 20-40 ppl in your room - remember, more people doesn't necessarily mean more money.
    Since I've started SM I've seen numerous girls who have 150+ in their room..including a Couple(boy and girl) that appeared on Dr.Phil I think it was. I actually like watching these girls and every time I see them with this many ppl I want to ask what kind of laptop are they using lol

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    Yeah, in my experience traffic isn't the biggest deal. I rarely have more than a few guys in my chat but it doesn't stop me getting regular privates and making good money. Of course, not as much as the experienced girls on this forum but I've only been camming a month.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GaPeach View Post
    Since I've started SM I've seen numerous girls who have 150+ in their room..including a Couple(boy and girl) that appeared on Dr.Phil I think it was. I actually like watching these girls and every time I see them with this many ppl I want to ask what kind of laptop are they using lol
    Maybe I'm not noticing because I really don't spend much time in other rooms, or maybe I'm just not on at the times that these people are....generally when I flick through the top row, there seems to be around 100 in the top few rooms. The only place that I have really consistently seen "hundreds" in a lot of girls is MFC, where numbers are so much higher.
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    Of course I've Googled my handle. I know about niches. I have evolved through several of them online since 1997. I know exactly what I'm talking about when I say that traffic is different from one girl to the next. There's always going to be one girl who's got bigger melons, is prettier, offers more, shows it all in free chat, etc. I understand that there are always going to be girls with way more to offer to the masses than myself and other girls in the listings.

    We're giving them 65%. Any girl who feels she has to promote herself, when she's only taking home 35% of it, plainly ... can't be very wise. The reason we give them 65% is for the traffic, platform, features, etc. Yes, traffic is a huge part of that percentage. Even the girls who use Mtree are making money with that affiliate program and it doesn't matter where the members spend their money, she gets her cut, regardless. So none of that is relevant to her 35% and why on earth she would work her ass off to bring in traffic to a site that takes so much of her earnings. I do my part, which is to work the free room and satisfy members in the pay rooms, but I'll be damned if I'm going to do it ALL for 35%; bring in the guests, convert them, service them, retain them ... all for a measly 35%? lol So seriously ... who brings their own traffic to the site? I mean, we're talking Streamate here, who pay 35% right? Just want to make sure we're on the same page, Sarah.

    Next month, I will be celebrating my 15th year as a camgirl. If anyone has been around this long, you know there have been major changes around these woods and I am not just talking about increase in performers, competing sites. Sites are taking way more than they used to and providing less. I entered into this industry when there were just 2 camsites on the planet. I've seen algorhythms put into place, the creation of fan clubs, even been part of some of that stuff. Then, I got majorly screwed over (but that's a story for another day perhaps, lol). Been there, done that. None of that is news to me Sarah. Sorry. I could probably elaborate on every point you've made though some I disagree with. I'm not going to pick though. Your experiences are your experiences and I'm sure you're richer for them , as we all tend to learn and grow from our experiences.

    Whoever thinks traffic doesn't matter - is living in a dream world. Wait and you'll see. It's a numbers game. If the numbers are no longer there (in the way of traffic), the numbers in revenue will decline, as well. If you have to work harder, offer more to your members just to keep up with your revenues, then it's something you could have done all along, even when you had a boatload of members in your room. You would have earned more before. If you have to work harder, more hours, then you're not truly earning what you did before. You're worker harder now just to keep afloat. Damn right traffic matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloraBell View Post
    when it comes to room count I'll take quality over quantity any day!!!!!
    interesting.......
    I;d take quantity over quality any day.

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