Results 1 to 25 of 25

Thread: Sm wtf?!

  1. #1
    Member PurpleSkye's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Posts
    59
    Thanks
    28
    Thanked 61 Times in 15 Posts

    Default Sm wtf?!

    So right now there is a girl on cam, in free chat on SM doing a double penetration show. Aren't the rules meant to be enforced?! She also looks extremely off her face, it's just a train wreck to watch but I couldn't look away. Have now lol.

  2. #2
    Veteran Member BlankStare's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Location
    Enigmatic
    Posts
    386
    Thanks
    286
    Thanked 740 Times in 245 Posts
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Streamate enforces rules like the government enforces rules... to some- the rules don't apply, to others they do, and with the rest their too damn lazy to do anything about it. You may as well just not even pay it any mind.. they will get caught sooner or later, and even if they dont... it's shame on them.
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
    Hunter S. Thompson



  3. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to BlankStare For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    Moderator IsobelWren's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2008
    Posts
    3,042
    Thanks
    6,061
    Thanked 9,946 Times in 1,854 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cheeky

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    A) Thank you for following the rules and not outing the model.
    B) Yeah. SM has really been going down hill lately (as you could probably tell by all the threads complaining similarly about SM). I think Mr. SM (the guy whose name is on my checks) has been hitting the sauce or something. Seems like nobody cares about enforcing the rules or anything anymore.
    Last edited by IsobelWren; 03-03-2012 at 08:23 AM.


    I

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    Him: we could meet... im 5ft 9 sexy italian with a 8 inch love stick...imagine playing with me... how would you do it
    Me: I would cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs

  5. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to IsobelWren For This Useful Post:


  6. #4
    Featured Member Incantatious's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,732
    Thanks
    5,214
    Thanked 8,267 Times in 1,351 Posts

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Whenever I see stuff like this, I take screengrabs and report it to SM. Whether they actually take up my reports or not, I don't know.

    I just don't want SM to turn into a pile of pooshit whereby there are models giving away free shows and breaking the rules, whilst I'm busting my ass trying to make hard-earned cash by actually using the site correctly.

    ...Pooshit.




  7. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Incantatious For This Useful Post:


  8. #5
    God/dess ManyRoses's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    3,103
    Thanks
    1,297
    Thanked 7,598 Times in 1,955 Posts
    Blog Entries
    8
    My Mood
    Breezy

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    I've been told by someone at Streamate that they don't watch the models themselves, they just respond to complaints filed by customers or other models. So if you see something, report it.

    Usually I try to stay the heck out of other model's business, but for a major violation like this, I would mention it. Ugh.

    Rule-breaking is definitely on the rise, which SUCKS.

    (And speaking of being off her face - I had a guy come into my room the other day who asked me if I was "on the pipe". When I said no, (and that I thought that was obvious - do I LOOK like a crackwhore?) he said, ok, well, I prefer my girls to be totally high. WTF??? Ugh ugh ugh
    I take cash, debit or credit. I just don't take shit.


    OnlyFans.com/ScarlettMoore

    Follow me on twitter! @MissScarlettM

    Hear me ramble about random things:

  9. #6
    Featured Member space_cowgirl's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2008
    Location
    US
    Posts
    954
    Thanks
    274
    Thanked 1,718 Times in 517 Posts
    My Mood
    Happy

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    I just don't get why models even do it. I've seen models with all their junk out in free chat and...nothing happens except the beggars make requests for MORE MORE MORE. It's not good business sense, at the very least.

  10. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to space_cowgirl For This Useful Post:


  11. #7
    God/dess ManyRoses's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    3,103
    Thanks
    1,297
    Thanked 7,598 Times in 1,955 Posts
    Blog Entries
    8
    My Mood
    Breezy

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by space_cowgirl View Post
    I just don't get why models even do it. I've seen models with all their junk out in free chat and...nothing happens except the beggars make requests for MORE MORE MORE. It's not good business sense, at the very least.
    Because they are stupid.

    I've thought about it long and hard, and this is the only explanation that I can come up with. I cannot understand what benefit there is to giving away for free what you get paid to do. I CAN understand how stupidity would make you think that there is. I'm sure that these girls are thinking "oh, but I get so many more people in my room when I do this" not realizing that these people are not paying, or "If I give them what they want, then they will tip/go pvt"...there is a lot of false reasoning out there...but I'm with you. It makes no sense.
    I take cash, debit or credit. I just don't take shit.


    OnlyFans.com/ScarlettMoore

    Follow me on twitter! @MissScarlettM

    Hear me ramble about random things:

  12. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to ManyRoses For This Useful Post:


  13. #8
    Newbie
    Joined
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    9
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    I know it's unlikely, but there may be a few girls who do that kind of thing in free because it gets them off rather than because they're stupid. That's how I started camming... I only started seeing it as business when an ex-lover found out I liked doing it and recommended doing it for money.

    OK, so I sound like a massive whore now.

  14. #9
    Veteran Member Lovelyx's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    245
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked 231 Times in 98 Posts
    My Mood
    Cool

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Some girls get desperate when they're not making pvt and think if they get nude and show guys will pvt LOL. So the guys are so use to see desperate girls giving goodies, that when they enter a room of a girl that doesnt do it they start to said like 'ahhh, but others do it bb, you will get more pvt' I dont show 1 single danm on free chat, even to flash ass in thong I request GOLD first, some give it to me, others just leave...even today I got a guy telling like 'bb if you dont show ass how i know if I like it? show it if I like will go pvt' and I was answering tip first otherwise go to private or watch my pictures (I have pictures on my profile showing my ass in Gstring) But I usually kick out this type of members if they continue to insist.

    I saw once a girl on SM on free chat flashing boobs and pussy, she was new and was like not very related on how this work in her attitude she was very newbie to this, and lots of begars on her room hey bb show pussy closer ohh yes do it then we pvt, she so innocent was showing it in zoom and was like come on guys now let's pvt....of course nobody take her pvt....lots of begars yes, but nothing more you get by providing for free.

  15. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Lovelyx For This Useful Post:


  16. #10
    Veteran Member BlankStare's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Location
    Enigmatic
    Posts
    386
    Thanks
    286
    Thanked 740 Times in 245 Posts
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Look at it this way- those girls that give it away for free are only hurting themselves. They are not competition! Because their behavior will only attract scum-bag freeloaders... not any decent cam customer. Unless it's something illegal happening.. I'm not reporting it. Takes too much time out of my day to be a cam cop. MFC is notorious for public, free, sex shows. Girls on there full spread eagle with their fists in their vaginas working the shit out of themselves for nothing.

    Since the beginning of camming time, there has always been the silly girls that give themselves no credit and no respect. They are not worth worrying over.
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
    Hunter S. Thompson



  17. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to BlankStare For This Useful Post:


  18. #11
    Member JaidaMarie's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2010
    Location
    STL
    Posts
    24
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 9 Times in 6 Posts
    My Mood
    Amazed

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlankStare View Post
    Look at it this way- those girls that give it away for free are only hurting themselves. They are not competition! Because their behavior will only attract scum-bag freeloaders... not any decent cam customer. Unless it's something illegal happening.. I'm not reporting it. Takes too much time out of my day to be a cam cop. MFC is notorious for public, free, sex shows. Girls on there full spread eagle with their fists in their vaginas working the shit out of themselves for nothing.

    Since the beginning of camming time, there has always been the silly girls that give themselves no credit and no respect. They are not worth worrying over.

    I agree...when i come across it the only thing that runs through my head is...."why take her to prvt if i can get a free show here?" But that is on them money wise. I came across a girl in a deep sleep and just LMAO....kinda sucks that those free shows they are giving could have been paid shows for models of the wiser. Oh well i still get mine.

  19. #12
    Veteran Member BabyLove1981's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    207
    Thanks
    291
    Thanked 201 Times in 80 Posts
    My Mood
    Amused

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    ^^This and all of this^^ BUT, although I am NOOOO competition for anyone here, I do feel as If your going to do shit like this....take it to MFC's. I always liked SM because it seemed to be more about enforcing rules. Although my husband and I haven't been on SM but maybe 4 months the site seemed to be more "classy" I guess? Other than places like LJ, MFC and a few others. USED to when we checked a few others to see how the night was it was only tits here and there. No full nude, no penetration ect. Lately though its getting worse. Thats the main reason why I dont get on MFC much. I mean damn, I have a bubbly personality, cute figure, face and all. But if I'm sitting there in my bra and cute panites chatting it up why in the hell are they ganna tip me when the there is a lesbian show on row 1 fucking their pussies and doing DP? A few girls over there is one with their ass to cam doing anal..another doing an oil show. I don't have enough regs or fans yet and it (for now) doesn't matter how far I shove a dildo in my ass, laugh, dance, do games or whatever...if its free they will go there. I mean hell, I would too. lmao

    I just figured SM was very strict on rules. And most every model/couple had a no pay/show demeanor. If majority starts doing ALL in free, not only is SHE not going to make as much I AM NOT. So it kinda pisses me off to be honest with you. I dought I would ever be on the front page, but damn if it ends up like MFC's Im out.






  20. The Following User Says Thank You to BabyLove1981 For This Useful Post:


  21. #13
    Moderator IsobelWren's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2008
    Posts
    3,042
    Thanks
    6,061
    Thanked 9,946 Times in 1,854 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cheeky

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlankStare View Post
    Look at it this way- those girls that give it away for free are only hurting themselves. They are not competition! Because their behavior will only attract scum-bag freeloaders... not any decent cam customer.
    One could say that if these girls are attracting scum bags then they will bring more scum bags into the site and fewer paying customers. Like when you get one drug dealer dealing in the park next to your house. That guy brings his clients, they bring their friends, a brisk business starts to be done. Pretty soon another dealer will come in to see if he can get a piece of the action. Druggies find it convenient to steal from houses/cars/people nearby to get the money to get their drugs. The dealers fight, someone gets shot. People start to move. Housing prices go down. Nobody wants to move in where there's druggies and drug dealers and crime. Houses become abandoned. Druggies start crack flop houses in abandoned houses. There goes the neighborhood.

    Same kind of thing can and does happen with camming sites. These women are not necessarily competition but they ARE bringing "property values" down.


    I

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    Him: we could meet... im 5ft 9 sexy italian with a 8 inch love stick...imagine playing with me... how would you do it
    Me: I would cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs

  22. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to IsobelWren For This Useful Post:


  23. #14
    Moderator IsobelWren's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2008
    Posts
    3,042
    Thanks
    6,061
    Thanked 9,946 Times in 1,854 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cheeky

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    There are two major different kinds of cam customers. Discounting the guys who have weird fetishes or something else going on, of course.

    The guys who are looking for someone they like as a person and can just fall in love with and see over and over.
    The guys who just want someone they find attractive and can get off to. Maybe once, maybe one hundred times.

    The guys who want to love you will love you if they see you. However, it takes time to build up this kind of relationship and it seems most girls here are not interested in investing that time. Sure, SOME of these guys will come in, like you enough, and then pay to take you to exclusive to chat with you, but most of them want to chat with you in free. How many times have girls on here complained about the guys who want to chat for an hour before biting the bullet? How many girls have long strings of guys whom they've banned for just this reason? These are the guys who want to love you and will follow you anywhere and see mostly only you once they love you. These are the guys whose names and jobs and hobbies you must remember. Like I mentioned, too much effort for an occasional show for many of the girls in here.

    The guys who just want to get off when they find you attractive are looking for a girl who looks like you, not necessarily you in particular. He likes mostly shaved redheads with natural tits. He searches for one. He finds me. He can afford my rates. He takes me to a show. We have a fine time. Next time he's on he searches and finds some other girl. She's showing her tits and doing a free dildo show. Perfect. He'll just stay here and not pay anything. If she's on when he's on I don't get another show from him. Maybe I get one or two shows from him when he wants someone's personal attention, but if he's just hot and wants to get off he's going to look for her first unless she does something that really turns him off.

    Many cam girls self select to receive most of their business from the latter type. Many of us find that the latter type simply make up the bulk of most cam site customers. It's just like in the store. I like Bertolli tomato sauce. I'll buy it over any other kind of sauce. My "manmeats" (as Caramel says) doesn't care what sauce he gets. He'll just get whatever is cheapest. (This is why I do the grocery shopping, otherwise we'll end up with Prego) How many cam customers are me and how many are him?

    It doesn't even have to be a "there goes the neighborhood" thing like I mentioned before, but if there's a cheaper alternative out there and most of the buyers view it as just as good it sucks to be Bertolli. I report people who are blatantly breaking the rules because I believe that what's going on around me effects me.


    I

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    Him: we could meet... im 5ft 9 sexy italian with a 8 inch love stick...imagine playing with me... how would you do it
    Me: I would cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs

  24. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to IsobelWren For This Useful Post:


  25. #15
    Veteran Member BabyLove1981's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    207
    Thanks
    291
    Thanked 201 Times in 80 Posts
    My Mood
    Amused

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by IsobelWren View Post
    There are two major different kinds of cam customers. Discounting the guys who have weird fetishes or something else going on, of course.

    The guys who are looking for someone they like as a person and can just fall in love with and see over and over.
    The guys who just want someone they find attractive and can get off to. Maybe once, maybe one hundred times.

    The guys who want to love you will love you if they see you. However, it takes time to build up this kind of relationship and it seems most girls here are not interested in investing that time. Sure, SOME of these guys will come in, like you enough, and then pay to take you to exclusive to chat with you, but most of them want to chat with you in free. How many times have girls on here complained about the guys who want to chat for an hour before biting the bullet? How many girls have long strings of guys whom they've banned for just this reason? These are the guys who want to love you and will follow you anywhere and see mostly only you once they love you. These are the guys whose names and jobs and hobbies you must remember. Like I mentioned, too much effort for an occasional show for many of the girls in here.

    The guys who just want to get off when they find you attractive are looking for a girl who looks like you, not necessarily you in particular. He likes mostly shaved redheads with natural tits. He searches for one. He finds me. He can afford my rates. He takes me to a show. We have a fine time. Next time he's on he searches and finds some other girl. She's showing her tits and doing a free dildo show. Perfect. He'll just stay here and not pay anything. If she's on when he's on I don't get another show from him. Maybe I get one or two shows from him when he wants someone's personal attention, but if he's just hot and wants to get off he's going to look for her first unless she does something that really turns him off.

    Many cam girls self select to receive most of their business from the latter type. Many of us find that the latter type simply make up the bulk of most cam site customers. It's just like in the store. I like Bertolli tomato sauce. I'll buy it over any other kind of sauce. My "manmeats" (as Caramel says) doesn't care what sauce he gets. He'll just get whatever is cheapest. (This is why I do the grocery shopping, otherwise we'll end up with Prego) How many cam customers are me and how many are him?

    It doesn't even have to be a "there goes the neighborhood" thing like I mentioned before, but if there's a cheaper alternative out there and most of the buyers view it as just as good it sucks to be Bertolli. I report people who are blatantly breaking the rules because I believe that what's going on around me effects me.
    YES YES YES! Wish I could have put it better, but your right on the money. I haven't even been camming long. Only since this past Oct and mainly couples. And I will be honest with you....My husband and I make WAY more as a couple than I do alone. I'm still the same girl, with the same face and body but with so many beautiful girls out there it's hard to compete. I figured I would play my hand at MFC because I REALLY do like the atmosphere better than SM. Its more fun and I have way more people chatting with me, but I'm not here to chat. I'm here to make money. And I love camming. I've always been an exhibitionist anyway. But after about December, I started realizing that this a JOB and I started treating it as so. I have a blast and still do when I'm on MFC. But I choose to gte on there when I'm just down right bored but in a great mood looking to talk. lol Too many showing for free for me to even have a chance. I'm a talker, girl next door and I get a long with anyone. But when it comes to making money..I'mma go where that is.






  26. #16
    Member PurpleSkye's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Posts
    59
    Thanks
    28
    Thanked 61 Times in 15 Posts

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    I guess I was just so disturbed that they weren't enforcing the rules. I always make sure I follow the rules and am still unsure if you're allowed to flash boobs for gold. I have before but rarely. And the way she was going about it, just kept doing the show and even making comments like 'Oh Streamate are watching me and will probably suspend me soon' Basically a whole 'fuck Streamate' attitude and degrading herself along with the site.

    But yes, there are alot of girls that sell themselves short, i've had some guys come into my room asking why i'm not doing shows and why won't I for gold cos others will. Maybe it's the influx of beggars and freeloaders lately, or maybe it is because girls just keep giving things away for free/cheap.

  27. #17
    Veteran Member CassieHeart's Avatar
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    218
    Thanks
    110
    Thanked 166 Times in 74 Posts

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    I have been on a snitching spree lately.Last week i caught a model streaming old photos and video.You could plainly see the water mark from wire caster pro she was using . When i contacted SM they pretty much ignored it and he assured me she was real and not doing anything wrong.She went on streaming for hours after that.I caught single models accounts performing with partners.And pov fucking in free chat for gold.I have reported them all and nothing was done they just kept on streaming.I have pretty much found that there's no point in reporting anyone that SM don't give a shit.

  28. #18
    Banned
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    102
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by isobelwren View Post
    a) thank you for following the rules and not outing the model....i think mr. ******* ***** has been hitting the sauce or something.
    lolol

  29. #19
    Veteran Member BlankStare's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Location
    Enigmatic
    Posts
    386
    Thanks
    286
    Thanked 740 Times in 245 Posts
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by IsobelWren View Post
    One could say that if these girls are attracting scum bags then they will bring more scum bags into the site and fewer paying customers. Like when you get one drug dealer dealing in the park next to your house. That guy brings his clients, they bring their friends, a brisk business starts to be done. Pretty soon another dealer will come in to see if he can get a piece of the action. Druggies find it convenient to steal from houses/cars/people nearby to get the money to get their drugs. The dealers fight, someone gets shot. People start to move. Housing prices go down. Nobody wants to move in where there's druggies and drug dealers and crime. Houses become abandoned. Druggies start crack flop houses in abandoned houses. There goes the neighborhood.

    Same kind of thing can and does happen with camming sites. These women are not necessarily competition but they ARE bringing "property values" down.
    Isobel I'd have to disagree with you (but I still <3 you)...

    I guess in this scenario we are the drug dealers.. and the customers are the addicts. If there's a dealer and he's selling cocaine.. but he cuts it with baby powder.. and then the other drug dealer realizes his shit is way better.. not cut.. so the addicts start going to him. Of course.. there will be a difference in the customer quality for the guy that has the good shit. He will make more money, get a better name in the street, and will get the respect of the addicts he is serving,He even starts pulling really good clientele.. like celebrity coke heads.. because well.. he has the good shit and that other shit is whack. Therefore, the addicts that realize the good shit when they get it, they will make sure to follow that dealer's rules because they want to keep getting that goodness.

    Now, the dealer with the cut up cocaine won't make as much money.. he'll constantly have to debate his customers about his prices, his quality, and will most likely end up getting a robbery pulled on him, because he's not respected.

    In this scenario.. the bullshit dealer is only doing good things for the better dealer.. he takes the shitty customers, and in turn.. also proves that quality is so much better than quantity.

    So if JaneDoe is fucking her pussy in free chat with a baseball bat in her ass.. does that make me earn less? No. Because nobody respects her. Men are pretty simple, yes.. but.. men like driving porsches, right? You take care of the porsche.. look at it lovingly.. spend lots of money on it.. they love the porsche. But that doesn't stop them from wanting to drive in an AMC gremlin every now and then. They will destroy a gremlin. Drive it all over, put a lot of miles on it, kick the tires.. but no matter what.. they always come back to the porsche and treat it with respect.

    The freeloaders are the guys looking at 4chan, xhamster, and pornhub.. trying to figure out how to rip us off. The guys that we want.. aren't Jonny at McDonalds spending 50$ a week on us, but still ends up harassing the shit out of us. We want the CEO of The Bank.. the guy that doesn't mind spending money on us just to talk. I am a true believer that for every good performer- there is at least 3 really good customers that make dealing with the assholes worth it.
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
    Hunter S. Thompson



  30. The Following User Says Thank You to BlankStare For This Useful Post:


  31. #20
    Moderator IsobelWren's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2008
    Posts
    3,042
    Thanks
    6,061
    Thanked 9,946 Times in 1,854 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cheeky

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchie View Post
    lolol
    LOL, and thanks for pointing out that I'd been breaking the rules myself. I edited my post


    I

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    Him: we could meet... im 5ft 9 sexy italian with a 8 inch love stick...imagine playing with me... how would you do it
    Me: I would cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs

  32. #21
    Banned
    Joined
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    102
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlankStare View Post
    Isobel I'd have to disagree with you (but I still <3 you)...

    I guess in this scenario we are the drug dealers.. and the customers are the addicts. If there's a dealer and he's selling cocaine.. but he cuts it with baby powder.. and then the other drug dealer realizes his shit is way better.. not cut.. so the addicts start going to him. Of course.. there will be a difference in the customer quality for the guy that has the good shit. He will make more money, get a better name in the street, and will get the respect of the addicts he is serving,He even starts pulling really good clientele.. like celebrity coke heads.. because well.. he has the good shit and that other shit is whack. Therefore, the addicts that realize the good shit when they get it, they will make sure to follow that dealer's rules because they want to keep getting that goodness.

    Now, the dealer with the cut up cocaine won't make as much money.. he'll constantly have to debate his customers about his prices, his quality, and will most likely end up getting a robbery pulled on him, because he's not respected.

    In this scenario.. the bullshit dealer is only doing good things for the better dealer.. he takes the shitty customers, and in turn.. also proves that quality is so much better than quantity.

    So if JaneDoe is fucking her pussy in free chat with a baseball bat in her ass.. does that make me earn less? No. Because nobody respects her. Men are pretty simple, yes.. but.. men like driving porsches, right? You take care of the porsche.. look at it lovingly.. spend lots of money on it.. they love the porsche. But that doesn't stop them from wanting to drive in an AMC gremlin every now and then. They will destroy a gremlin. Drive it all over, put a lot of miles on it, kick the tires.. but no matter what.. they always come back to the porsche and treat it with respect.

    The freeloaders are the guys looking at 4chan, xhamster, and pornhub.. trying to figure out how to rip us off. The guys that we want.. aren't Jonny at McDonalds spending 50$ a week on us, but still ends up harassing the shit out of us. We want the CEO of The Bank.. the guy that doesn't mind spending money on us just to talk. I am a true believer that for every good performer- there is at least 3 really good customers that make dealing with the assholes worth it.
    There's a point at which this is not true, as evidenced by how celebs and rich guys get treated (begged for OTC etc.). Where that money line is I do not know, but it exists.

  33. #22
    Moderator IsobelWren's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2008
    Posts
    3,042
    Thanks
    6,061
    Thanked 9,946 Times in 1,854 Posts
    Blog Entries
    3
    My Mood
    Cheeky

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    I get where your'e coming from Blank Stare. I suppose that we're destined to disagree. What I'm trying to say is that SOME men prefer the "good stuff" ie. women like us*. They will go out of their way to get us. Some of them. Sure you want these guys and they're the brass ring to shoot for but how many of them are there out there? If C-level employees are 10% of the workforce and one is shooting only for them that's a small percentage to make all your money on.

    Most of the guys with cash in hand (either at SC or a cam site) are just normal guys who are looking to spend some discretionary income for some fun. Some of them are the guy who will follow you anywhere at any price. Most of them aren't. This doesn't reflect poorly on us or them. Within a range of girls you like who aren't all busted looking tits are tits are tits and when you have 60$ to spend you make it go as far as you can. I'm not talking about the guys who are out to cheat us or degrade us. I'm talking about the guys who (I think) make up the bulk of the cam clients. Guys who want some kind of attractive girl who will do the things that they want her to. I've found them to be more or less perfectly sociable and kind. They're the ones who are some variation (slightly better or slightly worse than):

    Pop into free chat
    "Hi bb!"
    "Hi hon, how are you"
    "I'm good. Do you have toys?"
    "I do, here they are"
    "Will you cum for me?"
    "Would love to!"
    *ding, takes you to group/exclusive*
    Y'all enjoy a nice show, sometimes he instructs you, sometimes he doesn't. Show roughly 10-15 min long, both have orgasms. Sometimes he says goodbye, sometimes he just peaces out. You know the average show that makes up the bulk of our time.

    This guy, this guy I think can be the one who is swayed by a woman who also more or less fits the type of girl he's interested in and is cheaper or free. In my mind he makes up most of our clients. Sure, he's not the biggest spender, but in an average night one will get 15 of him and 4 of the CEO type.

    *This is also assuming that none of the girls doing desperate things in chat are as good as us. Some of them are. I was perving and was transfixed the other day by a smoking hot brunette with pretty nice fake tits, stripping all her clothes off, hopping up and down on her bed and (turnoff) whining about how she wanted to come really bad and needed a gold show...which she was -of course- selling for only 3$ for 15 min.

    I wasn't even looking to rub one out and that was tempting. Had she been clothed or less enthusiastic or just doing a per minute rate I would have thought, "She's cute" and gone back to work. As she was, I was thinking, "well I could log into my account and pay only a teeny bit and jerk off...but then I'd be part of the problem...damn. Go back to work" If I was a dude with dick in hand and credit card already entered I would have visited her instead of say, girls who looked like her who are charging per minute or whose tits weren't out who were a little farther away.


    I

    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    Him: we could meet... im 5ft 9 sexy italian with a 8 inch love stick...imagine playing with me... how would you do it
    Me: I would cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs

  34. #23
    Veteran Member BlankStare's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Location
    Enigmatic
    Posts
    386
    Thanks
    286
    Thanked 740 Times in 245 Posts
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchie View Post
    There's a point at which this is not true, as evidenced by how celebs and rich guys get treated (begged for OTC etc.). Where that money line is I do not know, but it exists.
    I am confused about what you're saying exactly, could you explain?

    My point is just to stand your ground about what you're worth. Hard work and having ethics goes a long way. There are SO many free sex shows on the internet.. but yet we still continue to make money. There's a reason for that. People always have and always will... spend those few extra dollars.. or more.. for a better product.
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
    Hunter S. Thompson



  35. #24
    Veteran Member BlankStare's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2011
    Location
    Enigmatic
    Posts
    386
    Thanks
    286
    Thanked 740 Times in 245 Posts
    My Mood
    Mellow

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    I completely agree with you Isobel, in the fact the average guys really are our customers and that's where the bulk of the money comes from on mainstream sites. I also agree that the average cam customer is looking for a simple nut. But if that were always the case.. I think they would all be at mfc (or somewhere just as easy to see free sex shows). The very few times I have gone through that site.. it's almost every other room, a cute, naked chick, doing it all. I agree streamate should enforce their rules, and that yes, it should be a more 'classy' site. Unfortunately, I think streamate is at the end of it's rope since introducing the Gold Shows. I'm not sure what's going on over there.. it was a cash machine for a lot of us. From what I understand it's definitely more of a struggle to make money with the introduction of the gold shows.

    Streamate should definitely enforce their rules, I'm not disagreeing there at all. I just feel like it's not worth the time to worry about what everyone else is doing. I get the guys that are like.. "Oh but JaneDoe is over there masturbating and showing all her stuff for $1.." and "you're prices are too high" "you srsly want a tip to let me see ur feet bb?".. but I stand my ground. Sometimes it can be frustrating, sure.. but I'd rather hold my ground than get crazy for chump change. If I had to be naked in free chat to make money.. that would be the end of my camming career.
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
    Hunter S. Thompson



  36. #25
    Member
    Joined
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    35
    Thanks
    23
    Thanked 42 Times in 18 Posts
    My Mood
    Doubtful

    Default Re: Sm wtf?!

    I've taken a few screenshots too but the same stuff keeps happening. I think taking screen shots is all in vain. SM doesnt care about enforcing the rules. And I'm still at a loss for words as to why some of these chicks want to behave that way and not get paid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    Whenever I see stuff like this, I take screengrabs and report it to SM. Whether they actually take up my reports or not, I don't know.

    I just don't want SM to turn into a pile of pooshit whereby there are models giving away free shows and breaking the rules, whilst I'm busting my ass trying to make hard-earned cash by actually using the site correctly.

    ...Pooshit.
    Last edited by Vanity69; 03-03-2012 at 09:58 AM.

Similar Threads

  1. WTF Ebanned, WTF I say.
    By IsobelWren in forum Other Work
    Replies: 46
    Last Post: 06-05-2011, 12:42 PM
  2. WTF is going on here?
    By Nuclear Martini in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-31-2008, 07:56 AM
  3. Dude... Just WTF... WTF
    By Sirona in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 10-04-2008, 02:56 AM
  4. Wtf???
    By beauty21queen in forum Stripping (was Stripping General)
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 08-23-2006, 09:45 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •