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    Duh Are there any professional GC Managers left?

    Just a note to say hello and thanks to the creators of this website. I'm a GC Manager currently working in the Texas Panhandle. My wife and I (yes she's a dancer and no I have no idea what the secret is to staying happily married while working in this industry.) Until 2 years ago we cleaned up and relaunched clubs throughout the Southwest. We retired and tried to live "normal" lives. But the siren's call drew us back in.
    I am truly appalled at the changes in the industry after only 2 years. Not to say it wasn't bad before it just seems that it is exponentially declining. The town I am currently in is ridiculous, I have not met one dancer who is not an alcoholic or on drugs, nor have I met any who have any training in the industry at all. Every one of them have horror stories of working for different "managers" in the area. Not one of the girls I have currently working for me has a decent hustle or a decent attitude We are literally starting from scratch and I am having to go back to the "fundamentals" to create a decent gentleman's club. I thought I would throw a few pointers out there for both managers and dancers and get your opinion on them.

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    Contrary to popular belief dancers don't work better after being bent over your desk and you don't work better after a BJ. Quit treating the club like your personal harem and do your job,
    On the note of your job. Your job is to create an environment where the dancers can make money. I can hear the naysayers already Yes your job is to make money for the club, however, if the girls are making money I promise you the club will.
    A surefire way to run off your dancers is to treat them like crap. In our first meeting with the staff I remove the word, "bitches,ho's etc.... from the club vocabulary. If you treat your dancers like crap you will get exactly that. ( I realise that there are some dancers that are not salvageable, those don't stay in my clubs for long, but for the most part dancers will live up or down to your expectations)
    Hitting dancers "in the pocketbook" is a waste of time. Fining dancers for every minor infraction accomplishes nothing, Nine times out of ten they just find a customer to cover the fines. I normally call them on the infraction (away from the customers and staff) the first time and then give them a 2 week "vacation" the second. Sounds harsh but either we are dealing on a level of mutual respect or we aren't and no amount of fines will change that. I have found that rewarding loyalty and "good behaviour" works a thousand times better. Letting them go home early when it's slow, buying them a round out of the blue, or just telling them that I appreciate them coming in and thanks for helping me make the club better by being there. It's amazing how much club loyalty that builds.
    Quit referring to them as "my girls" and don't let your male staff do it either. You are not a pimp and they are not ho's. They are selling a product and you are making an environment for them to do that in. Keep it professional.
    Make it a point to "press the flesh" of every customer in the club some time during the evening. Shaking a customers hand, introducing yourself, and letting them know they can come to you if they have a problem makes them more comfortable and relaxed. It also creates a customer that is more likely to bring in other customers since he "knows the manager" Theres a downside to this sometimes they can get cocky and out of control because they "know the manager" learn to judge and read people.
    Leave the drinking to the customers. When it comes time to handle an unruly or handsy customer and you are drunk it is no longer a manager handling a situation it is two drunks having an argument. (I have never understood how anyone can successfully manage Women, drunk men, and liqour while drinking. It's a train just looking for a place to wreck)
    I've got a lot more but I'll save that for another post.... On to dancer advice
    There is nothing uglier than a sloppy drunk dancer. Period. Control your intake and focus on your job, Making money.
    Read Stripperweb I know I know a blatant plug for the site but even after all my time in the business I find myself learning every time I visit.
    Ladies who are new to dancing. Find a mentor preferably someone outside the club you're working in.
    Never walk by a customer without at least smiling at him. No one likes to be ignored and these guys paid at the door so they wouldn't be. That guy you walked by as he was coming out of the bathroom might be the regular you're looking for.
    Never judge a customer by appearance. I have seen guys walk in that you just know don't have more than the cover charge. Ten minutes later they are dropping hundreds at the bar and thousands on the dancers. Take a chance you might be surprised.
    Set the rules you are comfortable with and don't let anyone move your lines.
    Don't look for the most crowded club to work in. It only takes that one customer to make your night.
    Find out a little about the manager and staff before you go to work for them. Go in and look around before you ask to dance. See how the dancers are behaving, watch the manager how does he interact with the staff? Watch his hands if he's copping a feel on every dancer who walks by, it may not be the best club to work in.
    Again I have a lot more but it's time to go to work. Once again thanks to all who interact on this site.

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    Seems like you have some good ideas there. I have worked in Amarillo extensively but not in the last 2 years. You are correct the dancers in the clubs there are not the most business savvy. They tended to sit with the customers for far too long, did not have an effective hustle and relied heavily on regulars. On one hand it made it easy for me personally to make money ( I miss those oil field workers and out of town businessmen ) but the girls were missing out making more money because they just didn't know how to. I think it is great that you are referencing them to Stripperweb. Have you considered dancerwealth? I think many would benefit from that.

    I never worked at Babes and I always felt it was a shame that the clubs off of the 40 were always so shabby. That is a great location to attract travelers but when I worked at the one near the hotels people would but few dances from me and ask about other clubs in the area. It seems like a prime location if you are planning to make something of the place.

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    Thanks for the reply and kind words. It has not been easy considering my views of management don't jibe with the normal small strip club mentality. Even some of the large strip clubs have that same view. Didn't know about dancerwealth but I'm checking it out. Babes is in the process of getting an overhaul. Changing from the Dark black cave to a modern light blue and Royal Blue Trim. Consider yourself an honored guest if you ever do come back up this way.

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    Wow, this should be print out and be put in every manager's office. Many managers are very rude to dancers and some others are cheap.





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    True Jay but it's a 2 way street. Dancers are a tough group to manage and not all of them respond well to decent treatment. Some just seem to think abuse is part of the job or I get dancers that are just waiting for the other shoe to drop. A lot of managers start out with a great attitude but it is slowly eroded away by unruly dancers, lousy owners and tough nights in the club. I had to decide early to allow the job to change me or I would change the job. I chose to not be changed. It isn't always easy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabesofAmarillo View Post
    I am truly appalled at the changes in the industry after only 2 years. Not to say it wasn't bad before it just seems that it is exponentially declining. The town I am currently in is ridiculous, I have not met one dancer who is not an alcoholic or on drugs, nor have I met any who have any training in the industry at all. Every one of them have horror stories of working for different "managers" in the area. Not one of the girls I have currently working for me has a decent hustle or a decent attitude We are literally starting from scratch and I am having to go back to the "fundamentals" to create a decent gentleman's club. I thought I would throw a few pointers out there for both managers and dancers and get your opinion on them.
    Given what I've read about your club, it sounds like you have your hands full. No offense intended, but the reviews that I have seen portray your club as a broken down dump in the middle of nowhere. These same reviews are also not very complimentary, to say the least, about the quantity or quality of girls dancing in your club.

    I won't pretend to know what it takes to bringa club back around, but it sounds to me like you've got a lot of work ahead of you.

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    Absolutely true Rick But we're halfway there. A new group of dancers is in place now the club gets a makeover. If it was easy anybody could do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BabesofAmarillo View Post
    Absolutely true Rick But we're halfway there. A new group of dancers is in place now the club gets a makeover. If it was easy anybody could do it.
    FWIW, I have a heck of a lot of respect for that response. You could have claimed that the past reviews were not accurate, which btw I would not have believed given the credibility of one of the most recent reviewers of your club, but instead you took ownership of the issues and talked about what you are doing to fix them.

    Good luck with everything you are doing and if I ever find myself in the area I will definitely drop in.

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    Thx Rick, Unless a review is downright obnoxious I hear every word. If a customer was not satisfied with us I have an obligation to fix it.

    The only thing I can say is that I tend to take reviews too seriously, Our last one talked about the club being stuck in the 90's so I have spent the last 2 days repainting the lobby and bathroom area. I can't do a lot about the outside yet but I will

    It would be my pleasure to have you come visit. Consider yourself a VIP whether you give me a good review or not.

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