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    Dizzy Streamate "hustling" questions

    Hi! I'm a newbie and have been lurking on this forum for a couple weeks. I have been working on streamate for a week, doing fine, but I have a few general questions. I did use the search function, but please let me know if these have been answered in a thread I didn't manage to find.
    Anyway, questions

    1. How much would you recommend talking to customers? I am naturally a friendly sociable person, but I have noticed I will get people in my room who will talk to me for ages and not buy a pvt. I worry it is driving away possible customers. I don't want to be rude to anyone, but I am unsure of how to balance being friendly without paying too much attention to specific people.

    2. This is probably a newb question, but I understand that you can get tips on sm, and in the sm thread it says to encourage that. How does one encourage tips without seeming like a beggar, and without doing hardcore shows in public? I was wondering if you can do countdowns like I see on MFC, or just offer flashes for tips ?

    3. This question is less relevant, but if anyone could point me in the right direction that would be brilliant! I am twitter-retarded, and have been searching for tutorials, general ones and self promoting ones. I was wondering if anyone knew of any good ones for camgirls specifically, or had any advice on how to self promote on twitter.

    Thanks!

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    Welcome to StripperWeb! Just keep reading to get ideas to try, and you'll find what works best for you I think there's no black and white answer to your above questions because we all have different cam personas, so how a more bubbly, talkative, girl-next-door type like me handles her room would NOT work for a hardcore Domme persona.

    1. Personally, I still haven't found the perfect balance of ignoring freeloaders without being rude, and also not neglecting potential paying customers. What I have learned that has helped me tremendously is to broadcast only in classic chat on SM so that viewers can not see what other guys are typing, only I can. Sometimes I will say something like, "Sorry, guys, I have a room full of people talking to me at once and asking me different questions so please don't think that I am ignoring you, sometimes the chat goes so fast that I just miss what you write. If you want my undivided attention we can go exclusive, okay?" Usually this is the truth, but even if it's not, if you say something like this you will get your point across without seeming rude. Sometimes it seems like the whole room is full of freeloaders, at which point I will usually put my cam on break for 5 or 6 minutes to smoke a cigarette. By the time I get back most of the non-spenders have left and the guys who are serious about doing a show with me are remaining.

    2. I only ever ask for tips if a guy asks me to do something sexual in free chat; I never flat-out ask for gold unless the guy says he's interested in seeing something. I usually set my room topic to something like, "Titty, booty shaking, or feet flash for GOLD!" Guys never read the room topic so I have to keep on reminding them. If a guy asks, "Can I see your tits?" I will smile and say, "Sure, I'd be happy to show you my titties, just send me a tip first." A lot of guys who ask for flashes don't end up tipping, but a lot of guys do. At the end of the day I hardly make anything from tips, my income on there is primarily from premium and exclusive shows so I don't push tips, but it's a nice option to have. I've also seen some models offering to send pictures or videos for X amount of gold, but be careful about sending videos because you are not allowed to give site your off-site contact info and if SM catches you they may discipline you. Sending pictures through SM's messaging system for gold should be 100% fine though.

    3. Sorry, I don't use twitter and I don't see the point of starting now as I am trying to transition away from camming as my primary income so my time would be better spent working on my non-adult business, but I'm sure some of the fabulous ladies on here can elaborate on that

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    1. Dont talk toooo much. I notice when I start becoming "too friendly" that's what I attract.. guys who dont actually BUY in and just wanna chat. Think *Sexy*
    2. " You make me happy, I'll make you happy babe"...my motto
    3. Follow Streamate.

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    If a man starts writing sexually explicit text in free chat I tell them "I only talk naughty in private." If he continues then I kick him from the room. He is jacking off & ripping you off, how is that fun for you.

    Remember these guys are not your friends. These are your customers, it is your job to get them to take you private.

    Cheapass always write the most in free chat. My friends dont keep me focused on them & keep me from making money. If anything, how rude.

    This is YOUR JOB, you have to hustle. However you do it, is up to you.

    He wants you for sex, to jack off over, so not like he has the best of intentions to begin with. Great guys know your time & efforts are precious, they take you private without all the BS> focus on them.

    These so-called 'friends' who spend all day chatting you up for free, don't care if you have food in the fridge, if you can pay the electric bill.

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    - I don't entertain guys in free chat after all the basics of "How are you?", (in fact I usually jump straight in right there with something like "Mmmm I'm incredibly horny babe! And you? xx"), "Where are you from?", etc? Cut to the chase. It saves you BOTH time and can help you weed out the time-wasters.

    - I like asking guys if they have a cam. For some guys, if they believe that you actually really want to see them jerk-jerk-jerking that wankystick, (I apologise, I've just read House of Holes and have decided to add to my vocabulary), it can get them into private quickly.

    - If I have a lot of people in free chat, say over 10, I'll weed them out in terms of my own preference. I get high on the fact that there are shitloads of potential paying clients. So I bust out the "big guns" and start letting on that I'm sexually insatiable and appear to be on the brink of climax ("just take me, take me, take me NOW! Fuck, look at me!")

    - If I have guys requesting shit I won't do, I'll ignore them, (not as in actually kick them or ban them! I'll only do that if they're pissing me off) in favor of ones I'm more keen to perform for (like guys who start talking in terms of my niche).

    - If I only have a few people in free chat, I'll engage them a lot more, and for a longer amount of time than if I had over 10. Still though, don't be afraid of ignoring crappy-sounding people in favor of showing your goods to those who might come aboard. I spend probably 60% of time in free chat just basically smiling, licking my lips, caressing my body a little and "exhibiting" myself like some kind of art piece someone is going to buy. All in my undies, I must add. Though I will go as far as removing my bra temporarily if someone tips.

    - Adding Streamate on Twitter can do wonders for your traffic. If you have added one another, they can sometimes retweet your tweets advertising your show.
    If you put a link to your ".camgirls" site, then they can retweet you! It's frigging awesome.




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    1. I think that this depends hugely on your personality. I find that I get bored incredibly quickly if I am "just" being sexy, so I do tend to chat a bit more than some, but a) I will keep a lot of it to tantalising sexy things, like hinting at the crazy orgy I had the other night (but I'll only tell you all the details in pvt bb!!) or I want to break in new toys, or show you new clothes, or I just got a pedicure..b) I do NOT go into sexy talk details - I will give a tiny bit, but I am always aware that there is some guy trying to make me indulge his fetish in free chat (like the guy describing his penis as 2" and asking if size matters. If you want SPH, come get some SPH. It aint free) and c) I will not carry on a looooong 1-on-1 conversation and ignore everyone else in the room. I will constantly try to bring others into the conversations, and then if the guy gets pissy, I nicely explain that I have to pay attention to everyone, and if you want me to yourself, come pvt/excl. Some do - I had a nice long exclusive yesterday talking to a guy about Star Trek. Yay.

    2. I encourage the "flash for gold" situation - I think most girls do. I wouldn't worry about the tipping side of things on SM too much, beyond "I would love to show you my boobs honey, just send me a tip first".

    3. I like twitter, but again, don't get too concerned about it. Especially on SM, where you cannot mention twitter while you are on cam. Create an account, add a bunch of SW ladies, industry companies (SM, AVN, MFC), bigger name stars, sex toy companies, and "promoting" companies (Sexy Lady Show, IBTC, etc). Then interact with them. Look - followers!
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    Thank you very much! You have given me good tips, and the rest will just have to be trial and error

    @CourtneyRaine
    I did not realize they couldn't see each other's posts in classic chat, that is good to know. I will probably start using the line about missing posts, because I get tired of trying to reply to everything people say if it isn't interesting..

    @CinnimonKiss
    I have been 'too friendly' with a couple people who have hung around in my room for days without buying a pvt :c I should tell them to pay me or gtfo

    @Sam38g
    That actually makes a lot of sense.. I think I've gotten in the bad habit of treating the customers like people who matter to me (that sounds harsh, but oh well). I do tell people I won't talk dirty in free chat though, and I just learned how to ban rude people!

    @Incantatious
    I like the mentality of not entertaining too much in free chat, after all, that's what the main show is for. I followed streamate on twitter. Now I feel slightly less twitter-ignorant!

    @Manyroses
    I had a 30 minute private talking about dr who, it made my day. I showed my toys on cam a couple times, before I read (on here I think) that some guys get off just from looking at them.

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    ^^^ When it comes to showing toys on cam, I don't leave them out, but I will often briefly show them if I am asked. Part of this is that there is a line on my profile saying that I will deepthroat a dildo as long as my forearm, and I get a lot of guys who ask to see it. 9/10 times, they will then take me into pvt.

    Also - bear in mind that at least one of the top earners sits in a room full of toys, with them ALL on cam. Figure out what works for you - there is a fine line between not giving it away, and coming across like an unfriendly bitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant View Post
    I think I've gotten in the bad habit of treating the customers like people who matter to me.
    LMFAO!!!! Haha omg that just made my whole night. I know Exactly what you mean, just reading it in black and white was Classic!

    I have a few wonderful, really nice customers who primarily freeload. Mostly college students with some crappy part time jobs. They do shows with me maybe once a month, tip a couple of gold maybe once a week. They're always respectful and they help to keep the conversation in free chat going when it's slow, but it's kind of frustrating to know that they are taking so much and giving so little. I know they genuinely can't afford to spend a lot, but when they do spend? They spend on me. Because who would You rather give Your hard earned money to: the girl who laughs and chats with you and acts like she is appreciating your company, or the girl who tells you that if you don't pay her you're not worthy of her time? So that's why I feel there's a fine balance between setting up boundaries and alienating people, but you Will learn the balancing act

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    I dont get guys who spend all day in free chat. If they have that must FREE TIME, then they are not working hard enough. I work all day long, marketing, camming, doing clips, & my site. Figure I have about 4 jobs in all.

    Why have pity or consideration for guys who want to waste my time all day long in free chat? Shouldn't they be at work? No such thing as "Genuinely cant afford to spend alot". If they have all day to chat girls up on the computer, then that is a lazy man with no ambition or drive. He is wasting his time & yours. I stand by my evaluations of these type of men. Dont have time for them at all.

    This is a business. Do you go to Morton's sit at the bar & never order a drink or food. Sit there all night long visiting with the staff? Getting up set when they have to wait tables & not talk to you? No, it is there job to get your order & bring you the food & drinks. While they friendly there is still a bill at the end of the meal.

    If a freeloader can't afford your service, then he should be at work & not chatting girls up all day about nothing.

    Time is money.
    When I get a message from a freeloader wondering why I logged off, telling me to comeback. I let them know, while they may have alot of free time, I don't. My landlord doesn't care how nice I am, they just want their money every month.

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    1- don't talk a lot, ok be friendly but try to put a limit if you get always the same person just talking without taking you private (sometimes guys that talk for several day, come back when they have money and take you private, other will NEVER do, how to recognize them ? Well usually those who just want to chat and get free wank, keep asking you about sexual fantasies, what would you do to them ect, while they are wanking !!
    2- some girls ask for tips to do hand bra, show tits or to stand up and show ass, heels or to dance and tease ( it is up to u if u wanna do it)
    3-I am not expert about twitter, but i recommand you to follow streamate and tweet when you are online your cammodel link which is :http://YOURSCREENNAME.cammodels.com , streamate will retweet it, then if someone sign up to streamate through your link you will get more % ( u get a % even if they take another girl to private)

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