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    Default Re: The desperation of desperation

    Not me!

    I'm on the first page, normally very high up and I have done ONE day of gold shows in the past 30 days, only attracted cheap asses and now I'm back to privates.

    You don't have to do cheap shows to make money there.


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    Default Re: The desperation of desperation

    Are they in gold shows or just regular free chats? If it's the latter then take snapshots and report them. If it's the former, perhaps Streamate should require the performers to do a pre-set, starting amount like they do with privates. Or if not that, make a much stricter criteria in which performers must meet in order to perform in gold shows I know they do so that's why I said "MUCH STRICTER" (in case someone tells me they do). I think that would drastically cut down the free-for-alls. Honestly I see no point in gold shows all they seem to do is give guys an excuse to no longer do privates, gives a license for desperation, and to encourage further nudity in the open.

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    I think you should make money the best way you can. Its their business to run not ours. Just because its $2 doesn't mean shes not making her money. Shit she could make more money than any of us.


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    Default Re: The desperation of desperation

    I'm normally on the first page of SM and I'd never do a $2 show. I've just had my GOLD shows enabled, planning on doing $10 buy-ins and if that doesn't work out for me then I'll stick to privates. Got my first show planned for tomorrow night, can't wait



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    the lowest buy in i ever do is $3-4 and i'm on the middle of the first page usually. my normal buy ins are $5-7. i very rarely do shows longer than 7 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ms.Lacey View Post
    I think you should make money the best way you can. Its their business to run not ours. Just because its $2 doesn't mean shes not making her money. Shit she could make more money than any of us.

    I don't know if you missed the part when the OP(Busygirl) said it was $2 FOR 15 minutes. If you do the math that's about 13 or 14 cents a minute for 15 minutes and that's before the 65% is taken out. After that, she/he(solo girl/boy) or they(couples) that the OP was talking about would ONLY get about 4 or 5 cents for the 35% payout. So can you please explain how anyone who almost working for free for dirt cheap could possibly make more than any of us besides those who never gone online or haven't been in awhile? With that kind of change you can't get even a soda can out of the vending machine for that amount. Come on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyRose View Post
    I don't know if you missed the part when the OP(Busygirl) said it was $2 FOR 15 minutes. If you do the math that's about 13 or 14 cents a minute for 15 minutes and that's before the 65% is taken out. After that, she/he(solo girl/boy) or they(couples) that the OP was talking about would ONLY get about 4 or 5 cents for the 35% payout. So can you please explain how anyone who almost working for free for dirt cheap could possibly make more than any of us besides those who never gone online or haven't been in awhile? With that kind of change you can't get even a soda can out of the vending machine for that amount. Come on now.
    easy, there are top models who do shows with extremely cheap buy-ins and goals as high as $300-$400...which they often meet and exceed. their cut of that is anywhere from $50-$150 or more for a single gold show.

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    I have never made a gold show yet at $10 for 10 minutes with a goal of 200 or $5 for 5 minutes with a goal of $100, actually most of the time nobody pledges at all. I tried about 8 times different times during my shifts and all I get is thats too much or show tits/pussy and we will pledge kinda of BS. I refuse to beg or take my top off to get people to pledge which I dont think would make them do it anyways just be giving freebies to all the freeloaders.
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    Default Re: The desperation of desperation

    Once I stopped worrying about other people's prices and started focusing on my own hustle, I made a lot more money. I'm not trying to be mean, I know it can be annoying to see such cheap shows, but I just remind myself that it has nothing to do with me. I never do gold shows , my per minute rate isn't super low, I don't sit in free chat topless and I do pretty well on streamate. Just focus on you and making your show awesome and building regs!


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    Default Re: The desperation of desperation

    there is 1 aspect here that is really important I think and that is : top models set the trend , set the vibe.. for the rest of the models. others look at them and think " oh... if shes a top model and does this, I will too. its gotta be the right thing" and this makes sense..
    With this being said.. unless you watch particular top models constantly and know for sure what the hell they;re doing at all times, u cant come up with a realistic judgement. .
    You cant sit here and watch someone for 5 min and jump to conclusions.
    i mean ya, you sure can, but your judgement will not be accurate.

    $2 for 15 ... ya.. with goal 600 i;ll take that... with goal 100 or less, I wont.
    but thats just me....

    and YES, some models are really "desperate" but unfurtunatelly they dont get it.
    Being (very) cheap is not the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinydancer23 View Post
    easy, there are top models who do shows with extremely cheap buy-ins and goals as high as $300-$400...which they often meet and exceed. their cut of that is anywhere from $50-$150 or more for a single gold show.
    Exactly. Lower bids, higher traffic, higher goals. Running back-to-back gold shows for a full day, making two an hour at a $300 goal - that's $200 an hour.

    Also - I'm on the first page, and I generally have $5 buy-ins. However, I'll often do a lower buy in, but incentivize making higher bids, so that guys are pledging $20, $30, $40.

    I've also seen a lot of girls doing one cheap show a week - with a high goal. This past week, I've seen several of the top girls doing $1 "customer appreciation" shows - but the goal is high, and a lot of guys over tip.

    I get more frustrated about low goals than low buy-ins these days. And honestly, it's stopped bugging me very much at all.
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    I don't do gold shows I don't plan on doing them and somtimes I am on page 1 majority of the time I am logged in,
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    By the way I am on page 1 as well and pretty high up most of the time so I just stick with pvts and exclusives and I do pretty well. I guess the gold shows are not for me.
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    Ughhhhh, I take back what I said about cheap gold shows, i thought they weren't a big deal when I seen 2 or 3 girls doing it but it's starting to catch on now...$2 and $3 buy in???sheesh!!!! fuck gold shows! lol





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    I've only done private and exclusive. Never done gold and have no intension to. If it ain't broke, I won't fix it.
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    ok, so I was on the top row today and I did a 490 GOAL with $49 pledge.. for 10 minutes show.... yes. read that again and Yes im pretty proud of myself so I have the right to brag LOL
    I waited 30 min to reach the goal.
    did anyone see that?
    did u ? did u?..

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    I did but her money doesnt pay my bills... All im saying is its her business to run and she can run it as she please. Ok its .05 per min but its also a gold show not a pvt show. When i go to the movies im not charged for the length of a movie.... Get it!!! If u choose to do $1 per min good for u but if you choose less good for you still.



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    hen the OP(Busygirl) said it was $2 FOR 15 minutes. If you do the math that's about 13 or 14 cents a minute for 15 minutes and that's before the 65% is taken out. After that, she/he(solo girl/boy) or they(couples) that the OP was talking about would ONLY get about 4 or 5 cents for the 35% payout. So can you please explain how anyone who almost working for free for dirt cheap could possibly make more than any of us besides those who never gone online or haven't been in awhile? With that kind of change you can't get even a soda can out of the vending machine for that amount. Come on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    ok, so I was on the top row today and I did a 490 GOAL with $49 pledge.. for 10 minutes show.... yes. read that again and Yes im pretty proud of myself so I have the right to brag LOL
    I waited 30 min to reach the goal.
    did anyone see that?
    did u ? did u?..
    That is freaking fantastic!!!
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    That is freaking fantastic!!!
    yessssssssssssssssssss

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    Thats AWESOME Fridays!! I wish that I had the balls to set my buy in THAT high! Hmm....now i feel all inspired...thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    ok, so I was on the top row today and I did a 490 GOAL with $49 pledge.. for 10 minutes show.... yes. read that again and Yes im pretty proud of myself so I have the right to brag LOL
    I waited 30 min to reach the goal.
    did anyone see that?
    did u ? did u?..
    I dont who you are on the site... but thats really inspiring maybe I should shoot for higher pledges then. Would love to watch you sometimes if you dont mind letting me who you are.
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    I hear ya! I seen a girl on couples the other night (on the 1st page) not sure on what row, but her cooch was the only thing in cam and totally naked while she was masturbating..we were like wowzers..Isn't this against the rules?? lol My Husband I wanted the GOLD show soooo freaking bad. Until WE GOT IT. lmao. We've done maybe 1-2 (achieved) gold shows since we were enabled for it. We spent about 12-15 times trying withing 2-3 days. We now only do pvts/exl. But I have no idea what page were on. We have never checked or even know how. Which leads me to ask..

    Q: If you have geo block for your state...how can we check our placement when were on? Thanks!






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