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    In light of Friday's awesome threads encouraging we raise our prices, there's been some little clouds of doubt in reference to the guys who complain.

    Things like:
    You're so expensive bb!
    Ur hot but I can't afford u.
    U cost as much as one of the porn stars who cum here!


    Those ones? Yeah, well those guys can fuck right off.
    Why would we want to cater to guys who can't afford us?

    Remember: You are in control of your own room. This is your personal work space.

    If you went to buy a nice car, and complained to the salesperson that the car you wanted was too expensive, what do you think the reaction of the salesperson would be? Would they start sympathizing with you? Would they agree that it's too expensive? Would they start having doubts and start analysing the car and start thinking he even had a point? Would they consider lowering the price of the car?!

    The salesperson knows that there are people who certainly can afford this swanky-wanky car. They're not going to consider lowering their prices so that this person, or those with less cash can buy it.

    Half the time I think these guys think they can actually start haggling - if we start doubting ourselves, they assume we'll be more liable to lower our prices to something more "suitable". (Really, the only way it's more suitable is for them).

    We know there are people who shell out a lot of money in this industry. And we know that it won't be long until one of our regulars perhaps, or another person will glady cash in on us.

    What I'm basically trying to say is don't doubt yourself.
    Stick to those higher prices and weed out all of those cheap-asses and freeloaders.

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    yes! thank you for this! this isn't a fucking flea market and the more we make it known, the less power they have over girls who doubt themselves. to be honest, i get the SAME amount of sales at $4.99 as i did at $2.99! WTF does that say?!?!

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    Honestly, don't even pay attention to those guys. I had a couple like that and the BEST thing is to just ignore them and then ban if they continue posting. That's pretty much my response to negativity. Once I see it, ban. That way I stay in control and in a good mood for my paying customers.

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    I'm not too expensive, I'm just too damn sophisticated for the cheap asses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubblegumbitch View Post
    yes! thank you for this! this isn't a fucking flea market and the more we make it known, the less power they have over girls who doubt themselves. to be honest, i get the SAME amount of sales at $4.99 as i did at $2.99! WTF does that say?!?!
    Yes exactly. Honestly I get MORE sales at $3.99 then I did when I was $2.69



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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlotteslut View Post
    Honestly, don't even pay attention to those guys. I had a couple like that and the BEST thing is to just ignore them and then ban if they continue posting. That's pretty much my response to negativity. Once I see it, ban. That way I stay in control and in a good mood for my paying customers.
    If they say they can't afford me I will tell them, "well then if you can't afford me why don't you go spend time in someone's room YOU CAN afford?"

    Then if they get all "bb you are so hot" and stay in my room I will tell them, "here let me get you started on what I just suggested to you." And then I BAN their ass.



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    Yeah, I think a quick response before banning can be fine. But sometimes I see girls going on and on about guys not paying or being cheap and it seems to end up being counterproductive. This goes for trolls as well. They want your attention/time and sadly many girls play into that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missymissdemeanour View Post
    I'm not too expensive, I'm just too damn sophisticated for the cheap asses.
    AMEN!!!

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    Yessssss, just ignore them, they'll get the picture and hop to another room...you hurt them more when you pretend they don't exist





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    I am so worth it!
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    I can see you being 90 and flipping your long hair, still teasing the boys.



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    I used to hate that. I would just say " ohh sorry you're having that problem" try a cheaper room. Then I just stop typing and ignore them. Some would come back day after day after day to check and see if the price dropped. One guy got nasty and had to be banned.

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    Incantatious, I love you!!

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    Am I the only one who just tells them the site takes a majority of my profits? As soon as I mention I only make 37.5% and do a breakdown of that, guys stop making commentary about the cost. Most of them sympathize pretty heavily, actually. I'm informative about it and don't act like I'm complaining, at all. I remind them that a website is very expensive to run but I have to charge what's fair to me. I also get complimented on having sound and a clear cam. I have no problem pointing out the fact that being an English-speaking, American model is incentive enough to charge more. If they want cheaper service, they'll get what they pay for. They know this, too.

    I guess I'm saying most of these guys aren't complaining to me about my prices, they're genuinely curious about how they work. If I banned every guy who said I was "expensive", none of the guys with money would be around to find out why I'm worth it. It's kind of like the naive SC-custy who thinks all dancers get paid a wage to be in the bar. As soon as he knows we have to pay to work, he understands the nature of our work better and is less reluctant to spend on us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post

    Things like:
    You're so expensive bb!
    Ur hot but I can't afford u.
    U cost as much as one of the porn stars who cum here!
    You're so expensive bb!---------- Thank you, I should be expensive , dont you think?
    Ur hot but I can't afford u. ------ You can't afford 20 bucks? Ah. thats too bad, I wish you could.
    U cost as much as one of the porn stars who cum here -----Really? wow, I had no ideea. How cool is that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    What I'm basically trying to say is don't doubt yourself.
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    I agree 100000%. Dont doubt yourself at $1, at $5 or at $100. They can smell it, they can sense it. Im telling you they can! a little grin on your face.. a little submissive behavior.. and they will think they got you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    Am I the only one who just tells them the site takes a majority of my profits? As soon as I mention I only make 37.5% and do a breakdown of that, guys stop making commentary about the cost.


    Nope, you're not the only one. I do it too!

    When guys are silly enough to whine about my price, I remind them that cam girls only get __% of what they've paid. They shouldn't be mad at us about that, but if they're that pissed they should take it up with the site...lol.

    So if they complain about having to pay $60 for a Skype show, I remind them that on MFC 600 tokens is actually $30 in the model's pocket.

    A guy who still complains and accuses me of "thinking I'm all that" (or "on some next level shit," as one guy worded it) can just fuck off. You are NOT getting a one-on-one dildo-fucking Skype show for only $5 in my pocket. Get real...

    I KNOW some of these fucktards wouldn't hesitate to drop lots of money on sporting events. They'll spend on that, but when it comes to live adult entertainment they act like it's the dollar menu ("What all can I get for a dollar, bb?"). LMAO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    Am I the only one who just tells them the site takes a majority of my profits? As soon as I mention I only make 37.5% and do a breakdown of that, guys stop making commentary about the cost. Most of them sympathize pretty heavily, actually. I'm informative about it and don't act like I'm complaining, at all. I remind them that a website is very expensive to run but I have to charge what's fair to me. I also get complimented on having sound and a clear cam. I have no problem pointing out the fact that being an English-speaking, American model is incentive enough to charge more. If they want cheaper service, they'll get what they pay for. They know this, too.

    I guess I'm saying most of these guys aren't complaining to me about my prices, they're genuinely curious about how they work. If I banned every guy who said I was "expensive", none of the guys with money would be around to find out why I'm worth it. It's kind of like the naive SC-custy who thinks all dancers get paid a wage to be in the bar. As soon as he knows we have to pay to work, he understands the nature of our work better and is less reluctant to spend on us.



    I agree with this. Instead of being angry or being quick to ban guys who complain about our higher prices we should use that time to educate them on the breakdown of our wages. We need to start being honest and tell these guys where the vast majority of their money which is oftentime 65% is really going. It's not going into our pockets like they think. I believe that if they really knew then they would do either of or a combination of these five things:


    1.) They'll sympathize and spend more within the site on us.

    2.) They'll sympathize but would want to spend more on us directly outside the site.

    3.) They'll become upset and may complain to the site; these could be our allies.

    4.) They won't care and just continue to go for cheaper performers; we're nothing more than body parts to them.

    5.) They would use that knowledge as an excuse to no longer go private or tip us.



    There used to be a time when I wouldn't tell them because I didn't want to come across as the bearer of airing the website's "dirty laundry" or it would be misconstrued as being unprofessional or lacking a business-like ethic, and plus I was afraid that existing /potential customers would that as an excuse and I would lose privates. But nowadays I don't care because it is the truth; and I'll tell any of them if given the chance. We're misplacing our anger on the wrong people (the guests/customers) when we should place it onto the real culprits which are the camsites. We wouldn't have to set prices so high and work twice or three times as long; or having to work 2-3 sometimes 4 sites to meet our goals if we were getting higher payout percentages. The only ones who are truly hurting are us. These sites are the fattened piggybanks they already making their profits off of our backs, they're cheating us of our pay and our tips, and they're cheating the customers who show their appreciate of us financially. I get the impression that many of you are afraid to say so openly because no one wants to be the one who "rocks the boat" or seen as being "ungrateful". Maybe these guys could possibly be apart of the revolution and maybe on our sides to fight to make things better for us but that may never happen as long as we shoo them away and keep these sites' secrets as hush hush. The truth always sets you free
    . If you aren't angered by that then you should be.

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    I'm kind of torn on resentment towards Streamate for taking so much profit, but I think I've made a lot of peace with them.

    On one side, yes, they take a fuckload, but on the other side, they bring in my traffic. And they bring in a LOT of traffic. That is traffic that if I were to be working another site with a higher payout percentage, I would need to reign in myself using my own time and effort to get.

    On MFC for example, you get more of what you actually earn - you get a bigger percentage - BUT, you have to pull your weight a fuck of a lot more to bring in your traffic, keep your traffic, and keep coming up with new ideas to keep sales coming in.

    I'm not polished at this at all, but with Streamate I don't have to be. And so, it works out that I earn MORE on Streamate than I do on MFC. This is why I generally prefer Streamate despite the payout percentage.

    The only way I REALLY feel cheated, is when I put effort into something and get very little back.




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    The percentage would be horrible if the traffic weren't so high. I do think SM is still kind of ripping us off. I mean, 35% is kind of arbitrary anyway...why not 40 or 45%? I know they need to turn a profit, but we have no idea how much it actually costs them to host/run the site versus what they take. And I sense it might even get lower with time, which is depressing.

    Still, working on SM is a ridiculously easy way to take a high hourly pay. By "easy" I mean you don't need years of education/training/experience to start making 20 to 50 to 80 an hour and the work is not manual labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlotteslut View Post
    and the work is not manual labour.
    camming definitely requires a lot of manual labour if you ask me!
    hammering yourself with a dildo for hours on end is just as (if not more) exhausting as hammering nails into wood like a construction worker would =P and hell, they're not doing it naked at all the best angles



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    Quote Originally Posted by Peachesxo View Post
    camming definitely requires a lot of manual labour if you ask me!
    hammering yourself with a dildo for hours on end is just as (if not more) exhausting as hammering nails into wood like a construction worker would =P and hell, they're not doing it naked at all the best angles
    They probably should, they'd make more money!



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    When I gave up on Livejasmin , (years ago ) , I decided to sit with my price at 6.99 a min just for the sake of it ..... You would NOT believe the amount of people who came into my PAID chat room , and paid 6.99 a minute , to explain to my why I was not worth 6.99 a minute !!!! Instead of me pointing out they were paying 6.99 a minute to tell me this and they should really consider a brain transplant , the conversation would go something like this ...

    Dickhead - 'Hi whore, why do you think you're worth 6.99 a minute , because I don't ' ....

    Me- ( typing uber slow , while appearing a little saddened by their comments ) ... ''wow , really ? I thought this rate was cheap , what do you think I should be charging ? '' ...

    Dickhead- ''0.99 a min bb , I could hire a hooker for cheaper than 6.99 a min '' .....

    Me - ''A hooker ? really ? What's one of those ?'' :-) They would after a while realise the irony, and log out - But wow ,some boys and their brains tickle me pink !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peachesxo View Post
    camming definitely requires a lot of manual labour if you ask me!
    hammering yourself with a dildo for hours on end is just as (if not more) exhausting as hammering nails into wood like a construction worker would =P and hell, they're not doing it naked at all the best angles
    Needed to be quoted for epic truth.

    Camgirls these days use a wide variety of power tools... Glass power tools, silicone power tools... A select few hardcore girls even take tools such as drills and customize them into puss/ass-friendly dildos. Our pussies really are the construction zones of our business. XD




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    Due to the fact I cater to a lot of fetishes and do a lot of role playing...my prices are around $3.75/avg a min. There are some guys who will start to bitch and ask why I'm not .99/min and then I show them the table of toys...how fast I type (100wpm) and the fact I'm bilingual. Some will start to say they can get a hooker for cheaper and I remind them that, unlike a hooker, I have a 100% guarantee of no STDs or having them arrested. That generally shuts them up.

    There are some times where I will lower my prices due to traffic (early week or midday). Some will notice and mention so I tell them if they want to take the day off work to spend $10-$15 less dollars on their show...feel free. What most guys don't notice is the less they give me shit about prices or rather, don't give me shit at all, I tend to throw some freebies their way. Some other people in the room will see this and realize it's worth it to stop bitching.
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