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    Hey camming ladies. I know every site suites each person differently but I've noticed a lot more retired porn stars and mini celebrities head over to Stream Mate rather than My Free Cams, where I am currently. I never tried any other site but my cam score is dropping like dead flies and I want something new.

    For those of you who left MFC for SM, can you please tell me why?

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    I've tried MFC myself and it's been like beating my head against a wall. The money is never steady and the beggars drive me bonkers. Seems one day I make a killing and then 3 days with almost no $.

    I can't pay bills on luck. I need steady money.



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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    I hated MFC.

    There were more trolls, more freeloaders, more annoying requests, and less paying clients for me there than SM.

    The good / bad of MFC is that you need to pull your weight more than SM: Start stretching your creativity and character with things like games, raffles, etc to convince more people to tip.
    I couldn't do this. I felt silly. It just wasn't me at all. It works terrifically for some girls though - likely those who give it their time and effort.
    You have more space to really personalize yourself with MFC because it also allows much greater flexibility with your profile. This serves as great advertising space but also requires a lot of patience and some skill to both come up with fresh ideas, and the ability to promote them with attention-grabbing visual profile content and offers.

    Streamate is much more fast-paced. You throw on some undies, you get on cam, and traffic pours in. Like many others say, Streamate is very "Wham-Bam-Thank-You-Mam!"
    You don't have to advertise as much because Streamate deal with that for you. You just don't need to "entertain" to such a high degree as you would on MFC.

    On MFC you will often encounter lush & lavishly decorated profiles detailing the likes / dislikes, and favourite literature of models.
    On SM you will only encounter some pictures along with physical measurements, attributes, and fetishes any given model caters to. No beating around the bush on SM... (except, well.. pun intended: MORE beating around the bush on SM!)
    SM is much more no-nonsense.

    When I think of MFC I think of selling more facets of myself, (not in this stupid, cliche sense of "selling my actual SELF", I must clarify) - it's not just sex appeal but character, personality, humour, more entertainment. It took more out of me to summon the effort to do all of that when it felt like I was just getting peanuts in return.

    To summarize:
    The clientèle of MFC feels as though it relies more on a sense of community - some sense that you "really know" that sexy / cute girl you regularly watch / fap to.
    The clientèle of Streamate feels much, much more purely sexually-oriented.





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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    Disclaimer: I haven't ever tried MFC

    From the sound of it there's MFC is primarily geared towards free entertainment, running games and competitions in the hopes that guys are going to tip you. Not to mention the fact that after being tipped for a show any freeloader can watch you as well. That's a level of effort that I'm just not prepared to put in. I don't do shit unless I'm being paid for it. On Streamate I can chat as little or as much as I like, and if I'm feeling bored I can just tab over to SW or Twitter or Tumblr or anywhere and keep myself entertained until I hear the *ding*.



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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    Like Incantatious said, MFC is sales, sales, sales. You have to make up games, keep things fun, make your guys as interested and invested as possible. It's like free chat to the 10th degree. I just can't keep up that level of cheeryness and sales all the time. You're oriented around making people who *could* see you do all this for free want to either see more and take you to a private show or tip to keep you doing what you're doing.

    I know earnings are more flexible and I'd like to be able to make it there but I don't have the energy.


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    I tried MFC because I actually like the whole games and raffles and such and still made no money. I spent a month on my profile and coming up with games and made close to nothing. I ended up losing a lot money because I had no real income an went back to SM. I always made more there regardless of their insanely strict rules. I don't do shows if the guy doesn't pay and I am in private a lot so prefer SM a lot more. At least I gave MFC a fair try =/ Sometime I consider trying again when I have the extra time but when girls ask I always recommend MFC

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    SM is the only site where it's not like pulling eyeteeth to get guys paying and into private. Honestly, I could could easily support myself full time on SM (if I wanted to) whereas that would not be possible on other sites.

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    This is an easy question, so here is my easy answer.

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    Another thing I have noticed is the MFC tends to favour a different look. Most of the top girls are cute, young, thin types. I think SM is a lot more diverse in that if you look at the top earners there, there is a bit more diversity. SM is also more fetish-oriented.

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    I prefer MFC over SM, but maybe I should give SM one more shot before I decide to finally close my account. I've already decided I won't be doing gold shows, and it seems like the guys in my SM public chat were equivalent to MFC basics (or equivalent to MFC non-tipping premiums).

    I've offered sound on SM, used good lighting, was friendly and interactive in public chat, but I got a bunch of beggars, bossy guys, and guys wanting to talk on the phone and meet in person...lol.
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    Dont Give up on SM Brownfox there's still hope


    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    I prefer MFC over SM, but maybe I should give SM one more shot before I decide to finally close my account. I've already decided I won't be doing gold shows, and it seems like the guys in my SM public chat were equivalent to MFC basics (or equivalent to MFC non-tipping premiums).

    I've offered sound on SM, used good lighting, was friendly and interactive in public chat, but I got a bunch of beggars, bossy guys, and guys wanting to talk on the phone and meet in person...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbootyjudy1 View Post
    Dont Give up on SM Brownfox there's still hope



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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    Many are on both, but this is what I've noticed:

    - Instant gratification. Pornstars on Streamate are rigged to go to the first page, whereas on MFC they have to start from a 1000 cam score and work their way up which takes a lot of time they don't want to put in
    - Again, MFC is based heavily on camscores and most pornstars don't cam that often so their score continually falls
    - Streamate is easy to manipulate for members shows and they also have a widget-like cam that can be placed on websites. MFC does not have either
    - More pornstars know about Streamate because its owned by Brazzers

    MFC is still much more lucrative, but most people are not willing to put in the time/effort or don't fit the right look for MFC. For the average girl who has the barbie look or young innocent girl look, MFC is more lucrative when compared to Streamate. And you can work longer on MFC without burning out compared to Streamate which is show after show after show.

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    You need to move on to the dark side Jojo.Leaving MFC was the best thing that i did.At first i didn't like streamate but that's because i didn't give it a chance . I was so not used to the low percentage.Also my rates were so low they probably thought i didn't speak English.(hehe) .But that's because i thought if i set my price low i would get more privates ,But i think that just made them think i didn't speak English or was just not a hot commodity.Anyways, streamate is less work and more time getting paid..The only thing about streamate is my kitty gets hurting in about 3 or four hours of doing nothin but straight fuck shows.(Even coconut oil cant stop the pain).But some days you'll get lucky and might barely have to pull out your dildo cuz that site is more fetish based.Anyways, i think u should try it.You have nothing to lose but a lot of money to gain .(Ching ,ching ,Dollar signs baby!!):

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    There are people around here that will tell you that MFC requires work and for you to build up a fan base.

    I am sorry but I don't really have time to cultivate a "fan base" especially when I have to keep up my life style. My bills are currently all paid, however I still like to have gas in my car and food on my table at the end of the week . Not to mention that most bills are on going. I mean I "could" not pay my bills for a few months and get away with it without getting cut off, but personally I don't like having to hand out $2000 or so to my creditors all at once. That is just not how I live my life. Most of my accounts such as my telephone/internet/cable all sit with around $100 or so credit on them. Rent is always paid at least 1 month in advance. Currently I don't owe rent until May. But my food I do buy on a weekly basis, and I fill up my freezer with dog food (they are raw fed) once a month. I also fill my car with gas weekly and that usually costs around $55 give or take.

    Besides I already have a reasonable sized fan base, albeit somewhat small. I have been in a few porns and every once in a while I do get people who recognize me from my "films". If it means anything I do get that extra 40% from sm for signing up customers who come through my site (so I make 75% total). I have been in about 10 porn movies over the years. I also currently operate 5 sites, which are mostly affiliate marketing type stuff. I have 2 domains that currently sit parked which I am hoping to turn in to SM white labels. I do stuff outside of just being on cam to get my name out there so IMO my efforts should pay off on MFC like they do on SM.

    The vast majority of my customers are at that 35% pay rate though. But I do have a handful that SM gives me 75% for. There are ways to make serious money on SM outside of just being on cam if you try.



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    Sorry i forgot to mention why i left MFC for Streamate.I Was tired of shaking my ass for 10 tokens or in hopes of freeloading mother fuc*ers tipping.I hated the begging.I hated worrying about my cam score.Plus i feel like Streamate LOVES us black ladies(especially ones with fat asses, LOL).I always make my goal if i stay on like im suppose to on SM.i dont have to entertain people that aint paying for shit.I get to charge whatever i like.I also like how they dont let models show nudity below the belt.Dont get me wrong streamate has its down side but itS way better than MFC in my opinion.The only thing i loved and really miss about MFC is how guys would randomly drop a billion dollars in your room just because they want to see u smile.There's not much of that on SM oh well, cant have it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    I hated MFC.

    There were more trolls, more freeloaders, more annoying requests, and less paying clients for me there than SM.

    The good / bad of MFC is that you need to pull your weight more than SM: Start stretching your creativity and character with things like games, raffles, etc to convince more people to tip.
    I couldn't do this. I felt silly. It just wasn't me at all. It works terrifically for some girls though - likely those who give it their time and effort.
    You have more space to really personalize yourself with MFC because it also allows much greater flexibility with your profile. This serves as great advertising space but also requires a lot of patience and some skill to both come up with fresh ideas, and the ability to promote them with attention-grabbing visual profile content and offers.

    Streamate is much more fast-paced. You throw on some undies, you get on cam, and traffic pours in. Like many others say, Streamate is very "Wham-Bam-Thank-You-Mam!"
    You don't have to advertise as much because Streamate deal with that for you. You just don't need to "entertain" to such a high degree as you would on MFC.

    On MFC you will often encounter lush & lavishly decorated profiles detailing the likes / dislikes, and favourite literature of models.
    On SM you will only encounter some pictures along with physical measurements, attributes, and fetishes any given model caters to. No beating around the bush on SM... (except, well.. pun intended: MORE beating around the bush on SM!)
    SM is much more no-nonsense.

    When I think of MFC I think of selling more facets of myself, (not in this stupid, cliche sense of "selling my actual SELF", I must clarify) - it's not just sex appeal but character, personality, humour, more entertainment. It took more out of me to summon the effort to do all of that when it felt like I was just getting peanuts in return.

    To summarize:
    The clientèle of MFC feels as though it relies more on a sense of community - some sense that you "really know" that sexy / cute girl you regularly watch / fap to.
    The clientèle of Streamate feels much, much more purely sexually-oriented.
    Its because SM is much more of a customer, pay 2 play, geared website. Think about it; profiles are kept short, if you view a model's room for more then x minutes (I think its 10?) you get prompted to either join or take her private, and you can't watch a free show and not chip in. LOL, well some would say you can watch a free show given all the rule pushers that are around on that site. Don't get me wrong, I am one of those rule pushers myself, but I will be damned if you find me giving in to the guys trying to direct my free chat room without at least tipping, or doing a full on cum show and sucking dick in free chat. I do sometimes appear topless in free chat (of my own free will) and more often then not I wear small panties to expose some hair. Its a fine line though between what I do and a full out cum show that some others do in free chat. For one I won't give in to beggars, I tell them "beggars can't be choosers unless they are in private", nor will I take off my panties in free chat. About 50% of the time I don't even show my face.

    MFC on the other hand is a freeloaders paradise. Heck even having the word free in a name of a cam site is just wrong in my opinion. Yeah it's nice to have a fancy profile and plenty of photos, but would you rather have customers spending money in your room or sitting there reading/looking at your fancy profile all the while not spending a cent? There is a reason why SM only allows for short, standard and brief profiles.

    Furthermore there is no prompt or suggestion to actually join and tip if said man has been in your room for 10+ minutes. And only around 5-10% of men in your room will actually put in towards the show, the rest freeload. Oh and MFC does not rank your customers so its hard to tell if someone has tipped you before unless you distinctively remember them. At least SM ranks your customers that way you know who to gear yourself to when you are in free chat. At least I do that. All my customers get some sort of personal conversation in free chat because i know I can usually get them to spend again.

    SM does a lot of promotion on tube sites, which can be good or bad. Funny enough one of their tube sites has one of the porn movies I was in which ironically helped me out a lot because I ended up gaining several customers based solely on that (and no it was not a pre-recorded private that was done on SM, it was actually a video I did 5+ years ago). MFC on the other hand tends to do most of its promotion on dating networks and chat sites like chat roulette, all around bad ideas if you want people to come to your site and actually spend something.



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    I'm a Transsexual woman so I cannot work on MFC. I work where I'm celebrated, not tolerated. It's their loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbootyjudy1 View Post
    i feel like Streamate LOVES us black ladies(especially ones with fat asses, LOL).



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    Ooh, the UK men on AdultWork love us Black women too!
    Adultwork interface is so complicated.I gave up on the first day after everything was complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbootyjudy1 View Post
    Adultwork interface is so complicated.I gave up on the first day after everything was complete.
    I felt the same way and did the same thing lol

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    While I think MFC is an ok site at times...it is not the best site for black ladies......there is like no top black women on that site at all...lol

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    I have exactly the same experiences.

    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    I've tried MFC myself and it's been like beating my head against a wall. The money is never steady and the beggars drive me bonkers. Seems one day I make a killing and then 3 days with almost no $.

    I can't pay bills on luck. I need steady money.

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    I love MFC, but it has changed a LOT over the past 2 years for me. I feel that MFC is a difficult place for ethnic woman to prosper, if you are not under a size 2 that makes it much more difficult. So due to that working against me, I felt like I had to bring 110%, amplify my personality, and always think outside the box to stand out. Now a days it’s like pulling teeth to get these guys to tip. I don’t make the money I use to, so I find myself losing interest and going astray from that site. No tokens = No motivation.

    Now I have crossed over to the SM. It took me about 6 months to adjust to that site but I’m starting to like it. On SM you have to work for your money VS. MFC you will have guys tip you 1000 tokens just because you're cute, have a nice personality, or for know reason at all. I haven’t given up on MFC as yet. I don’t get to cam often due to my hectic schedule, but when I do find time to cam I try to utilize my camming time wisely. Whenever my Vajayjay needs a lil break I log off of SM and log on to MFC. I chit chat, do a PVT, and sell some videos. When I have regained my energy I log right back into SM for another round.

    Streamate Pro & Cons "My opinion"

    Pro’s

    Always busy, Always in PVT & always making $$$$.
    Doesn’t require that much creativity to make guys spend money on you.
    SM Loves all ethnic, shape, size woman. Everyone has an equal shot of making $$$$$.
    NOOOOO CAMMMMM SCOREEE! =) =) =)YAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!.

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    Sore Va jay jay =(.
    Never know when you’re going to go PVT.
    First 30 seconds of PVT is free Members :/
    Weird request in PVT.
    You’re 35% cut =( But at the end of the day your money adds up =)
    Worrying about your placement on the site
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