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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    I hated MFC.

    There were more trolls, more freeloaders, more annoying requests, and less paying clients for me there than SM.

    The good / bad of MFC is that you need to pull your weight more than SM: Start stretching your creativity and character with things like games, raffles, etc to convince more people to tip.
    I couldn't do this. I felt silly. It just wasn't me at all. It works terrifically for some girls though - likely those who give it their time and effort.
    You have more space to really personalize yourself with MFC because it also allows much greater flexibility with your profile. This serves as great advertising space but also requires a lot of patience and some skill to both come up with fresh ideas, and the ability to promote them with attention-grabbing visual profile content and offers.

    Streamate is much more fast-paced. You throw on some undies, you get on cam, and traffic pours in. Like many others say, Streamate is very "Wham-Bam-Thank-You-Mam!"
    You don't have to advertise as much because Streamate deal with that for you. You just don't need to "entertain" to such a high degree as you would on MFC.

    On MFC you will often encounter lush & lavishly decorated profiles detailing the likes / dislikes, and favourite literature of models.
    On SM you will only encounter some pictures along with physical measurements, attributes, and fetishes any given model caters to. No beating around the bush on SM... (except, well.. pun intended: MORE beating around the bush on SM!)
    SM is much more no-nonsense.

    When I think of MFC I think of selling more facets of myself, (not in this stupid, cliche sense of "selling my actual SELF", I must clarify) - it's not just sex appeal but character, personality, humour, more entertainment. It took more out of me to summon the effort to do all of that when it felt like I was just getting peanuts in return.

    To summarize:
    The clientèle of MFC feels as though it relies more on a sense of community - some sense that you "really know" that sexy / cute girl you regularly watch / fap to.
    The clientèle of Streamate feels much, much more purely sexually-oriented.
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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigbootyjudy1 View Post
    Sorry i forgot to mention why i left MFC for Streamate.I Was tired of shaking my ass for 10 tokens or in hopes of freeloading mother fuc*ers tipping.I hated the begging.I hated worrying about my cam score.Plus i feel like Streamate LOVES us black ladies(especially ones with fat asses, LOL).I always make my goal if i stay on like im suppose to on SM.i dont have to entertain people that aint paying for shit.I get to charge whatever i like.I also like how they dont let models show nudity below the belt.Dont get me wrong streamate has its down side but itS way better than MFC in my opinion.The only thing i loved and really miss about MFC is how guys would randomly drop a billion dollars in your room just because they want to see u smile.There's not much of that on SM oh well, cant have it all.
    ^^ Main reason I left MFC too^^ Everyone on MFC (when I started) said "ohhhhh, you will do great here, you have a big ass AND do anal" BUT ummmm....after my "new girl" tag went away that wasn't the case. On SM, although we do couples mainly, my ass is the center of attention and makes us mega bucks lol






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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    I am planning to go back and give MFC another try, because the potential is just so amazing there...

    BUT for the moment, this is why I prefer SM:

    No damn camscore. This means that I can log on whenever I have time/feel like it/etc and not freak out that if I take a week off, my placement will tank. (For the record, I took nearly two weeks off last month. I went from number 14 to number 20. Within a couple weeks of being back, I got up to number 6. Ha!) I just haven't had a set schedule that would allow me to be consistent.

    Less need to "build up regulars". Yes, I actually do have regulars on SM at this point, but I was still earning decent money when I didn't. I want my money NOW, tyvm.

    I don't want to build a brand, create a persona, etc etc. If it happens, yay. But I'm not looking to be a famous pornstar (or a famous anything, for that matter), and I don't want to feel as if I "have" to.

    And finally? I'm kinda lazy. I want to be able to log on in pjs with a hangover and still make money. I want to say "ah fuck it, I'm actually not going to go on tonight" with impunity.

    MFC seems awesome. It also seems like a LOT of work. That's why I'm waiting to be done at the day job before I go back there.
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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    I like coming on here and hearing that you CAN earn your daily goal (or at least very close to your daily goal) without doing SM gold shows (I prefer to not do gold shows).

    Maybe I can try SM from 10 PM - 12 AM (or 1 AM) EST right before I get on MFC...even if I only do it 3 or 4 nights a week. I like ImLive during the day, and splitcamming isn't an option for me right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBrownFox View Post
    I like coming on here and hearing that you CAN earn your daily goal (or at least very close to your daily goal) without doing SM gold shows (I prefer to not do gold shows).

    Maybe I can try SM from 10 PM - 12 AM (or 1 AM) EST right before I get on MFC...even if I only do it 3 or 4 nights a week. I like ImLive during the day, and splitcamming isn't an option for me right now.
    i agree with you guys talking about the lack of diversity on mfc. i've been struggling lately as well. i'm gonna try SM again. brownfox, are you still on SM through IM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosima View Post
    i agree with you guys talking about the lack of diversity on mfc. i've been struggling lately as well. i'm gonna try SM again. brownfox, are you still on SM through IM?


    I wasn't one of the people commenting on the lack of diversity on MFC. I feel that there's lots of different races on there, but too many people are only looking at the first top rows. If all you're doing is browsing the first top rows of MFC, then you're gonna miss out on a lot of very good models of ALL RACES on MFC. There may not be as many Black models, but no one knows the exact number of Black models (or Asian models or Puerto Rican models, etc.) there are on MFC. It's too bad MFC doesn't allow viewers to browse models by race, hair color, stuff like that. Unless you know the exact spelling of a model's name (so you can type in the URL for her profile page), there's really no way to check out the full list of MFC models. You pretty much have to catch the model when she's on.

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    I chose mfc because of a studio issue. Originally I signed up with SM, but accidently sent my app through a third party advertising as sm in an email- I worked for them 2 weeks, was in pvts all the time with guests for over an hour and realized I was only making 20%, then I started getting weird texts at all hours of the night from a 'model manager' who was creepy and would send text picture messages to me during my show saying "your lighting looks bad" etc. I asked him to leave me alone (at least during the show its not good for moral) and he wouldnt, I even contacted SM telling them that I had not consented to a third party and a 'manager' and wanted it to be fixed because I wasnt making any money and they said I had to wait 6 months before I could re-apply and be paid what everyone else was getting! Bull shit! I signed up with MFC a few months later though and a similar email scam was taking place again (long story ) anyways MFC admin fixed it immediately, no questions asked, and I have had no issues with payments or anything else. I think it sucks that on SM I had regulars who would spend hours with me and tip gold, only to realize I was making .20 per gold tip and about $40 (if that) for an hour show in exclusive!
    I will say thought that the MFC interface is very overwhelming at first and I have gotten very frustrated at times and taken a few days off BUT if you can get the hang of it its worth it!
    If you dont have an issue signing up with SM it does have its perks too, but the guys expect more sometimes and can be annoying about it, wanting phone sex during a show for example.

    Just my experience!

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    i would love to join a cam site. sm looks appealing but i dont like they might use my shows to advertise on tubes. might try mfc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarmenF View Post
    i would love to join a cam site. sm looks appealing but i dont like they might use my shows to advertise on tubes. might try mfc...
    On MFC, there is a HUGE chance your show gets recorded by someone who hasn't even paid a dime to see it. SM has its cons, but at least they post your shows on tubes to advertise you (so you profit of it), not to get some respect from fellow freeloaders. If you don't want SM to publish your images or shows elsewhere, you can opt in for geoblocking.
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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    thanks lexie watermarking doesn prevent reuploading does it?

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    Idk, never tried it (I'm on SM, tried MFC but didn't last long there). Actually, I don't mind mine reuploaded as I want my room to be promoted, and my friends and family either approve me camming or won't give a fuck about me doing it lol))

    Oh, and speaking about the good sides of MFC: there, you can get yourself a really cute and detailed profile((( If SM allowed to make them half as detailed and informative, I'd be totally happy with it lol)))
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarmenF View Post
    i would love to join a cam site. sm looks appealing but i dont like they might use my shows to advertise on tubes. might try mfc...
    If you do any amount of research on the sites where guys trade recorded camshow videos, 90% of them are from MFC. It is the community feel that does it, IMHO...and the fact that you can watch a show without paying, so you are untraceable when recording.

    Yes, SM uses recorded shows to promote, but MFC is faaaar worse for recorded shows.
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    "On SM you have to work for your money VS. MFC you will have guys tip you 1000 tokens just because you're cute, have a nice personality, or for know reason at all."

    ^^^ I disagree with this. You DO work for your money on MFC. If you see a girl getting a random big tip when she's seemingly doing nothing on MFC, remember that the guy did it because she has likely spent a lot of time previously entertaining him. Probably hours and hours, to cultivate that kind of loyalty from her regs. It does take work to get tips like that, even if you don't happen to be doing much at the exact moment you get a big tip. So saying the girls don't work for their big tips is pretty much incorrect.

    Also, I hate SM because I don't love doing pvts, and I find 35% to be utterly insulting to us. MFC is where it's at for me!
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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    Guys regords the shows in Chaturbate and Cam4 (like MFC) even by normal camcorder or mobile phone (no need to have special softwares). So, geoblocking in SM stops arvertising in Tube sites? I`m really sceptical..Even geoblock doesn´t seem to work properly..(someone).I think if you don´t want your recorded shows put anywhere so you must have at least mask or hidden faces, copyright music and trademarks in backround.

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    Does watermarking prevent recorded viddeos to be uploaded to tube sites? I know SM isn't ok with watermarking, even with their link

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0TaraM View Post
    Guys regords the shows in Chaturbate and Cam4 (like MFC) even by normal camcorder or mobile phone (no need to have special softwares). So, geoblocking in SM stops arvertising in Tube sites? I`m really sceptical..Even geoblock doesn´t seem to work properly..(someone).I think if you don´t want your recorded shows put anywhere so you must have at least mask or hidden faces, copyright music and trademarks in backround.
    Anyway, to record a show from SM, you have to PAY for it. IMO, that considerably reduces the possible number of videos of you spreading your holes on the Internet.

    That is why I'm never gonna be successful on MFC lol: I have nothing against gangbangs, but there's no way I would do it in front of a cheering crowd, with people taking phone-videos of me - and the cheekiest of them attempting to control the process lol (even more so because I'm sure most of them are gonna be underage . I know there might be 1001 other ways to entertain them, but who ever needs them with that much free pussy on the site.
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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    What I hate the most about MFC (and I think we all can agree) is the stupid camscore!





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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    I agree with all the statements here...
    SM is a lot more reliable as far as money- which is why it's my main site. You do still get regulars who will try to "really" get to know you, and the free loaders who try to get you to do stuff for free.
    The Gold feature (tipping) is pretty new- within the last year or so- and so I think the customers are less likely to tip and 10 times more likely to have long shows.
    I go to Streamate when I NEED to make money fast and don't wanna sit there and chat to morons all night. I LOVE that SM does all the advertising for me and gets me all this crazy traffic- I'm a busy person with full-time school, so I don't really have time to "develop my brand" or perfect an HTML profile. Which honestly really sucks. But it is what it is.
    However, when I feel like just chillin' and maybe making a buck or two, I'll chill on MFC and throw some attitude around. I actually get a lot more privates and group than I ever do in tips- I think it's cuz I don't do all those crazy games and sh*t, and I don't get naked, not even topless. It takes the guys a little while to realize that they won't get it for free so I sit there doing nothing for about 2 hours, but then the group privates flow like the river.

    In the end, it's really whatever site works the best for you and whichever one you prefer. I use both, off and on, but SM is what pays my rent.

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    It is true, the earning potential on MFC is absolutely insane... Insane. In the "batshit" sense...

    I recall my first trip to a top MFC models room. She was slender, elegant-looking; her room was luxurious and beautifully lit, and she was masturbating under a blanket. You couldn't see any genitalia. No one even bothered to type anything, the tips were raining in so fast, nothing would get read. I immediately got all my details to join MFC, thinking, "Wow! All I need to do is sexily masturbate under a blanket and I make bank?! COUNT ME THA FUCK IN!!!"

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    It requires more time, and dedication and consistency than I put in. I made some very sweet bank my first couple weeks on MFC, but now I am struggling harder. My initial post here swung much in favor of SM, but for any work-hardy girls, you put that time into MFC and not only will it pay off, but you could just be looking at some seriously shit-hot $$$$. For, in the future, not even needing to show / do massive amounts either.




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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarWalls View Post
    I love MFC, but it has changed a LOT over the past 2 years for me. I feel that MFC is a difficult place for ethnic woman to prosper, if you are not under a size 2 that makes it much more difficult. So due to that working against me, I felt like I had to bring 110%, amplify my personality, and always think outside the box to stand out. Now a days it’s like pulling teeth to get these guys to tip. I don’t make the money I use to, so I find myself losing interest and going astray from that site. No tokens = No motivation.

    Now I have crossed over to the SM. It took me about 6 months to adjust to that site but I’m starting to like it. On SM you have to work for your money VS. MFC you will have guys tip you 1000 tokens just because you're cute, have a nice personality, or for know reason at all. I haven’t given up on MFC as yet. I don’t get to cam often due to my hectic schedule, but when I do find time to cam I try to utilize my camming time wisely. Whenever my Vajayjay needs a lil break I log off of SM and log on to MFC. I chit chat, do a PVT, and sell some videos. When I have regained my energy I log right back into SM for another round.

    Streamate Pro & Cons "My opinion"

    Pro’s

    Always busy, Always in PVT & always making $$$$.
    Doesn’t require that much creativity to make guys spend money on you.
    SM Loves all ethnic, shape, size woman. Everyone has an equal shot of making $$$$$.
    NOOOOO CAMMMMM SCOREEE! =) =) =)YAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!.

    Con’s

    Sore Va jay jay =(.
    Never know when you’re going to go PVT.
    First 30 seconds of PVT is free Members :/
    Weird request in PVT.
    You’re 35% cut =( But at the end of the day your money adds up =)
    Worrying about your placement on the site

    I agree!!! I prefer Streamate over MFC. It took me a WHILE to get used to the 35% but basically if you charge more, you will make more. & that's exactly what I did. I raised my rates and get even more shows. & I don't use the HD encoder (as of now but will be soon as my laptop arrives) & I still was getting a lot of shows & good ratings. NOW it is worth all my efforts!! Plus streamate has a member live cam embed for models with their own sites so thats how I do my member shows!! Plus weekly pay! so no getting paid twice a month more like every week. MFC was cool when I first got on there back when I was like 19 & when i used to do g/g shows with my old roomie.... but it doesn't work with my personality. & a crap load of freeloaders/ ppl recording u and putting u on free tube sites! & like she said ... it's hard as shit for curvy ethnic women there. SO you just have to see which sites works with ur personality. Good luck ladies!!!! XO

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    Does anybody have an email address for someone in support on SM? sorry to thread jack but apparently I have to resubmit my docs for the 6th or 7th time because they found something wrong with them. Problem is I'm on vacation and not back home until the 28th so I don't have access to m documents and I don't want my account-in-process to be completely wiped.

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    Default Re: Why SM over MFC?

    Personally, I haven't decided which I actually like more. I have found that I do better on SM during daytime hours and MFC I'm sticking to super late middle of the night. I don't put a lot of hours in anyway, so sitting on a site when I know I won't make money makes no sense to me. I haven't been able to make steady money on either site yet, I have just figured out when I WON'T make money.

    I have a bit more patience with SM. I can do stuff like folding my laundry or watching tv when I have no customers. And when a customer does come in my room they're pretty reliable on only spending 5 minutes making a decision on whether to go private with me or not. I think it's a lot easier, and less pulling teeth on this site. I haven't figured out my magic recipe for success on this site yet, but I do see my earning potential.

    MFC I only have done 2 hours at a time at the most. I usually get a private within the first hour and once I get out of that I'll give the room 20 mins to tip me/ go private or I leave. I don't care how busy my room is. Most of the mofos don't have tokens anyway, and that damn camscore...... lol

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