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    Ugh. I'm missing out on $70, but the way this guy has talked and kind of creeped me out, honestly, I don't really mind. He wants a show with me and my bf, and wants to buy the clothes that I wear during the show (I quoted him a price that was WAY too low, because he was hassling me while I was trying to figure out why my toddler was crying, and got flustered and stopped thinking); he wants my bf to cum on the clothes, and for me to sleep in it. It has to be believable that it was "worn in a xxx" because he wants to HANG IT ON HIS DORM WALL. As high-maintenance as he is being about all this (he wanted an address so that he could send clothes to me, and was disappointed when I said no), I was wiling to go through with it. Twenty minutes of slight discomfort; bf would be right there with me, not a HUGE deal. Then today he finds out that I accept payment through CCbill, which apparently has given him issues before, so he doesn't want to use it. I didn't think to mention it last night (he wasn't home, so couldn't look at the icandycams link I sent him). I also don't want to direct him to the site that uses zombaio, at least not until they get their site fixed, and we find out what's going on with some payment issues they're having. I don't accept Amazon gift cards for shows, because while I like stuff, stuff does not pay my bills. I need electricity more than I need a new corset.

    So now there's not going to be a show, and he's telling me about how I should use something else, like epoch.com. Oh, and he offered MoneyGram or Western Union, and acted like I was overreacting when I told him I didn't trust them for my business transactions, for security reasons. So, $70 that I won't be getting, but honestly, I'm not all that disappointed. I feel like I kind of dodged a bullet with a customer who makes me cringe just by talking online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOneGirl View Post
    Oh, and he offered MoneyGram or Western Union, and acted like I was overreacting when I told him I didn't trust them for my business transactions, for security reasons. So, $70 that I won't be getting, but honestly, I'm not all that disappointed. I feel like I kind of dodged a bullet with a customer who makes me cringe just by talking online.

    /endrant


    Yeah, you probably did the right thing. Plus I believe that with Western Union, the person sending the money has to get your real name and city/state. Then when you go to pick up the money, you provide your photo ID, etc., I think. It's been a while since I've used it (never used it for anything related to camming).
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    I've never used Western Union, but I know for sure that with MoneyGram, you have to provide the recipient's name and state, and the recipient has to show their ID. I can't imagine there is a legal way to get around that. I'd still have to put my trust in some anonymous employee, who may or may not be a decent person, and who may or may not be bribe-able.



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    ^^^You have good instincts.

    There's always a slight chance of card decline with both CCBill and Zombaio (slightly higher chance on zombaio, but still very low) but chances are, even had you given him a zombaio link, he still woulda wanted to use a wire service. He sounds like a high maintenance idiot so be glad you're rid of him. "I'm not at home so I can't use an adult site" *rolls eyes* is one of the oldest lines in the book.

    In the future, if a customer contacts you at an inopportune time, tell them to come back later. Like you wrote, $70 is WAY too low a quote for what he wanted, so next time you're in a situation like that, tell him you'll think about it and get back to him. Things that aren't happening right at that moment don't need to be finalized right then and there. Real customers WILL come back (and it's also a way to get rid of the guys who want to wank as they discuss the fantasy with you). Always remember YOU run things, not them...that's the most important tenet of indy, I've found.

    Your timeline, your rules. Always
    Trust that and the $$$$ will come :-)

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    As if it's not hard enough to earn some cash, justcamit was playing up for me on AW again today...one of my regulars couldn't get into into a private show with me, only group was working with no privates all day despite exiting and relaunching it! Grrrrr...fingers crossed it behaves tomorrow.
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    Same here babe! Just keep reporting it & it will make it easier for them to fix

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    Camming has been hell for me lately. I raised my rates slightly about a month or 2 ago and noticed a slight decrease in my earnings, but I figured it was worth it, 'cause I could work less. I ended up raising them a little bit more (I'm currently at $3.50/min) and it's been awful for me. I'm even failing at gold shows at $0.50/min. I'm going to experiment with my rates and see how that works out for me...

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    Don't feel about the failed gold shows. I tried for 4 this morning and got zero. 40 minutes of countdown time that I could have spent in private, just wasted. But who am I kidding, I wasn't getting any privates today. I'm not going to say camming sucks right now, but SM sure as hell sucks for me at the moment. $15 in 3 hours this morning. Fuck yeah.

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    Default Camming has never been this slow for me :(

    I know Summer is usually bad, but I've never had it be this bad. I work mainly days and so far I've been on over an hour and have only made $6. I usually use the encoder but it keeps crashing my computer, so I'm going without it and just using the HD setting on the site. Even when I was using the encoder, my traffic was still bad. I can do a gold show and I have on average 2 guys sitting in my room, whereas I used to have 15-20 sitting. Guys keep coming in my room and either not talking, or asking for me to do things. Teasing isn't helping me at all. I've lowered my prices, raised them, done "specials." Nothing I'm doing is working. I feel like it's a problem with my stream or my placement, and I don't know what could've made my placement bad. Would someone with a member account mind checking my placement for me? PM me and I can PM you my cam name. Are things bad for everybody else?

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    That thanks I gave isn't because I like that you're struggling, it's a thanks of support as I totally know what you are going through. Yes, SM has been bad for me lately. I attribute that to me taking almost two months off, not logging in as consistently as I used to since I came back, the summer time lull, and of course the dreaded encoder fiasco. All around a bad situation no matter how you look at it. I've actually just started logging in at a completely different time and it's slightly better, but my hourly is still a lot lower than it used to be. I also only use the HD setting on the site because the encoder makes me cpu shoot up to 100%, and that definitely affects my traffic as I keep getting and dropping the HD icon. Last night I had a stretch of over 20 minutes where I had not one viewer in my room. Not even one viewer just popped in and out, which is completely unheard of. I feel your pain.

    The good (?) news is, it doesn't seem that my other sites are doing as bad as SM. I worked three sites last night- one one of them I earned the most I'd ever earned in a shift on there, and my overall night was the best I've had since April (even though I only made $30 in six hours on Sm- pathetic, I know, and it would have killed me if that was my only site). I am noticing more slower days across the board this week than I would like but overall it's not so dire, even though SM feels like it's dying on me. I guess this is just a reminder to all cam girls that even if we make bank on one site, we should never rely on it too heavily because you truly never know what can change in the blink of an eye.

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    I don't even use SM anymore tbh. There was a time when it was a good back up for me, and i could earn nearly as much as on my main site (though with far more assholes/ freeloaders, and harder work). But I don't think SM can even compete with other sites anymore, not unless you are running the highest, fastest connection, offer cheap gold shows, and have a large following already. Find another site and maybe keep SM on for when you don't *need* the cash x
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    Default Re: Camming has never been this slow for me :(

    I have an account on ImLive and applied for adultwork but never heard back and it's been months. I used to use webcams.com years ago, but I hated that site. I applied for cams.com and they said some crap about my ID. Is there a good site I haven't tried, besides MFC?

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    I am a firm believer in NOT putting all your eggs in one basket.. so what?? you are going to sit around one site having a bad day?? What I have noticed for a decade now! Is that sometimes these sites are not good from one day to the next.. VERY sporadic.. For example: Let's say you have a site that you NEVER truly make a living off of.. in fact I have lots of them, but one day some days they surprise you.. and one guy on that one site can turn out to be your income for the day!...lol... Tis true.. and for me it has ALWAYS been that way since day one.. that's why i am ADDICTED to work multiple sites and what not.. and in fact.. no matter what industry?? ALL successful people diversify their investments.. they don't hinge their entire income on one source.. NO ONE should do that...so then if you are a SM only girl for instance? what are you going to do when that dries up?? it will NOT last forever... it will be a different site.. it always is.


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    Today is super awful, every guy is a free loader and Super RUDE!!

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    I did 3 hours today and gave up! I had not one paying custie has to have been the worst day ever in camming history , fuming

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    I just sat on xpeeps for almost an hour and made 0 tokens. The past two nights were slow and I haven't made my goal on there since Monday, but I know not every day is going to be a good day so I don't tend to get too upset over fluctations. However, this is the first night that I have been on there and made literally $0. I can't help but think, what is wrong with me? I'm in the top 20, nothing has changed as far as my cam or internet, I've actually been logging on even more consistently than I had in the past couple of months- what gives? I'm watching other models on there making hundreds and even thousands of tokens while I sit with a room full of guests and maybe one or two members without tokens; what is wrong with me that I can even make $0.07? I really feel like a failure and I don't know what to do.

    It sucks because I really love camming on there. I enjoy the guys, I like the site features, and I generally am able to just really have a great time in free chat, which I never thought would be possible on a cam site. Now I'm wondering if I should just quit and move on to other sites that I don't enjoy as much. It's not that I want to quit camming there but at the same time, I can't continue devoting a few hours on there every night for nothing when I could be elsewhere actually getting shows.

    I've wondered if maybe the site is dying but I know it's not, because other girls are doing wonderfully. I guess I just suck.

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    Yesterday was awful for me, but today was amazing!

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    Courtney It's not your fault, just keep remembering that.

    I do feel like this is the worst week for potential spending traffic that I've ever been through camming (admittedly only 3.5 months). It's been so bad that for the first time I was worried about getting on cam. But at the same time this week has pushed me to explore new methods of making money. Working different hours, working new sites, changing locations in my flat, offering pole dancing shows, running gold shows, focusing my selling points, new stalling techniques, you name it this week I have tried it. And it's only that combination of that hard work and a HUGE amount of luck that's pulled me through to make a solid, if not spectacular, amount this week.

    Which is really my roundabout way of trying to encourage people. If things have been bad lately, remember that there are always things we can control. Sure, we might not be able to have a high-earning week but we can always maximise our takings from what we're given
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    Dont feel bad courtney, last two times I was on xpeeps I made zero tokens too! Nothing but guests and guys w/no tokens came in my room. Hopefully it'll be better for us next week!

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    Default Re: Camming has never been this slow for me :(

    ^^^ and that leads to a very important point. On any given day, you could run into some very generous cam customers. But you won't run into those customers if you're not on cam !

    However, in general terms, since the majority of cam customers live in the northern hemisphere June through September is typically vacation time, more family is 'looking over their shoulder' at home, there are lots of things to do besides sitting in front of a computer, etc. So yes 'negative' seasonality is coming into play right now. Seasonality can be painful, but if it's a purely cyclical thing the customers will return once vacation season is over, once school starts again, once bad weather cuts down on the opportunity to do other things etc.

    The bigger question of course is whether all of the recent decline is strictly due to seasonality, versus some of the recent decline being due to worsening economic conditions in general causing some webcam customers to spend less time and less money on webcam. Unfortunately, from EuroLand economic problems to US extended unemployment benefits expiring to stock markets declining to food / rent / local taxes rising, there's quite a number of reasons to suspect that the recent decline in webcam earnings isn't strictly seasonal.

    Also, where SM in particular is concerned, a 'strutural change' took place a few months ago in that ManWin stopped trading adult tube site link traffic with SM in a 'cashless' exchange for SM camgirl video content to post on those tube sites. This has now reduced the number of potential webcam customers being 'steered' to SM. SM has attempted to attract customers independently via paid advertising, but limited advertising budgets means limited traffic. So yes there's a logical reason to think that SM's earnings potential has been 'permanently' reduced.

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    I absolutely agree with Cammi on this one; there's a lot that you can't do to change your earnings, but there's also a lot that you can and it's important to remember those things. I've also switched up my schedule this week which has helped a bit, but that's really the only change I've made so far because I like to track one thing at a time to see which improvements work most effectively. I know things aren't *so* bad. I'm on track to reach my weekly goal. Yesterday I earned more than any other day I've had since April, and tonight on SM has been my best night so far this week and I still have a couple of hours left on my shift.
    It's just hard when you put in the effort and you try so hard on a site you love and you make absolutely no money in return. It's kind of hard not to feel a bit defective

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    Default Bad Monday day

    I had only FEW privates and I was so disappointed. Streamate apparently has some problems, like many other models on here said. MFC, Cams.com, and LJ are slow too. At some point, I felt it was something wrong with me, but nearly all custies keep saying I am so hot and elegant. I do not look like a trashy or a dirty hoarder. My space is clean for cam and I looked good. I do really talk to the custies as if they were my normal friends and they love that, but I get nothing in return. I know I should not be too chatty, but I was getting so boring and being shut up didn't help me to get more privates, anyway. Sighs..

    How do you all make yourself feel better after only got few privates from all sites combined?


    I really want to go indy and I have been reading so many posts about it on here... I want to earn ALL my money I worked for, not just 35 percent, you know? I am fine with 50 or 60, but 35? that is too tiring, even after I pushed my prices up. I have opened my C4S past the weekend, but sold only two. I need to promote myself to hell. pff.

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    UPDATE: Just as soon as I was about to sign off MFC to sleep, a guy decided to give me a private and made over $60. lol. why do the guys wait til the last moment?!!! ARGH haha

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    I had a very slow Monday as well. I was getting tons of people in my room but all they wanted to do was chat or beg. Got only one private which is very unusual. My SO was horny so I did a last call, going once, going twice, and signed off. Maybe had we stayed on a little longer it would have picked up like it did for you.

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