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    a question for all girls: with so much free porn out there, sites with paid chats almost inexistent, do we really make money by charging more than 2 usd a min??? something to think abt it....the owner of cambabes was talking to me the other night and he was like upset that some girls were pmming him with questions like: how to make 1000 in 2hs? he said: i dont have the answer once sites like chaturbate and mfc won the market by offering everything for free, why would guys pay for ur time when there is so much for free??? lets think abt it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvySinclair View Post
    a question for all girls: with so much free porn out there, sites with paid chats almost inexistent, do we really make money by charging more than 2 usd a min??? something to think abt it....the owner of cambabes was talking to me the other night and he was like upset that some girls were pmming him with questions like: how to make 1000 in 2hs? he said: i dont have the answer once sites like chaturbate and mfc wont the market of offering everything for free, why would guys pay for ur time when there is so much for free??? lets think abt it...
    Sadly, true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvySinclair View Post
    a question for all girls: with so much free porn out there, sites with paid chats almost inexistent, do we really make money by charging more than 2 usd a min??? something to think abt it....the owner of cambabes was talking to me the other night and he was like upset that some girls were pmming him with questions like: how to make 1000 in 2hs? he said: i dont have the answer once sites like chaturbate and mfc won the market by offering everything for free, why would guys pay for ur time when there is so much for free??? lets think abt it...
    Guys paying us are looking for the EXPERIENCE. They know they can get free porn on MFC and such. Freeloaders have no problem waiting for other guys to tip for the show. But the ones that are paying want that interaction. They want our attention. They want to run the show. They want everything you can't get from free porn. So it doesn't matter how many token sites pop up. There will always be guys who want to interact with you and are willing to pay you for your time. Now those girls wanting to make $1000 in 2 hours are just delusional. Anyone thinking camming is easy money is going to have a bad time.

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    im not sure u are totally right, i started to cam 15yrs ago, and things were much different then. camming was making connection with a guy, making friendship and building a relationship of trust. nowadays, guys only want to cum the fastest they can for the cheapest they can get. talking to david (cambabes owner) made me realize a lot of things that i havent before. he is the owner of one of the most reliable and good sites in the past, yet, hes very upset with all the free shit going on. im not sure when girls, specially new ones on cam, thought that sites like mfc and other free chat sites, would be the best money maker in the world. back in the day, we had shows booked and while waiting for those, we could do other stuff, not surprising to see so many girls suffering from depression and and anxiety for having to deal with shitheads and long shifts in free chats trying to sell what should be one of the most expensive things money can buy, which is a beautiful naked woman on cam or a fetish session made by professionals in a safe environment. im not sure paid porn has any future, i cant see it anyway if this free shit continues. the new girls simply give a lot for free when we had to build years of experience to make them pay for much less. im getting concerned when i see fees dropping like planes on the ground, and we cant just have ours much higher when there is so much competition for much less. not sure....really.
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    Ugh!!! Last night was amazing and tonight. . . Zilch! It looks like the traffic is low across the site, but there has to be something more interesting that I can do than sit there and tease myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvySinclair View Post
    im not sure u are totally right, i started to cam 15yrs ago, and things were much different then. camming was making connection with a guy, making friendship and building a relationship of trust. nowadays, guys only want to cum the fastest they can for the cheapest they can get. talking to david (cambabes owner) made me realize a lot of things that i havent before. he is the owner of one of the most reliable and good sites in the past, yet, hes very upset with all the free shit going on. im not sure when girls, specially new ones on cam, thought that sites like mfc and other free chat sites, would be the best money maker in the world. back in the day, we had shows booked and while waiting for those, we could do other stuff, not surprising to see so many girls suffering from depression and and anxiety for having to deal with shitheads and long shifts in free chats trying to sell what should be one of the most expensive things money can buy, which is a beautiful naked woman on cam or a fetish session made by professionals in a safe environment. im not sure paid porn has any future, i cant see it anyway if this free shit continues. the new girls simply give a lot for free when we had to build years of experience to make them pay for much less. im getting concerned when i see fees dropping like planes on the ground, and we cant just have ours much higher when there is so much competition for much less. not sure....really.
    I think what´s changed is that there is so much competition, and I´m not talking about free porn but other girls, it kinda became mainstream and it´s harder to get noticed. I posted about this a few days ago, and this have been said many times, online entertainment in general and camming in particular changes all the time and if we want to keep up we need to adapt. The way I see it camming is not about porn but entertainment and interaction, there will always be public for that, but having so many options for them to choose we need to work harder to get noticed in the crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvySinclair View Post
    a question for all girls: with so much free porn out there, sites with paid chats almost inexistent, do we really make money by charging more than 2 usd a min??? something to think abt it....the owner of cambabes was talking to me the other night and he was like upset that some girls were pmming him with questions like: how to make 1000 in 2hs? he said: i dont have the answer once sites like chaturbate and mfc won the market by offering everything for free, why would guys pay for ur time when there is so much for free??? lets think abt it...
    Well I sincerely hope us camgirls charging much more than 2 dollars an hour will have a future in this. I think perhaps the market will shrink and get more competitive in time, which will unfortunately push some girls away from camming, but overall I don't think we'll lose everyone to the free sites anytime soon. I think theres certain types of people who will prefer the group environment of the token sites and a type that enjoys the more "quiet" interactions seen on streamates, LJ etc. So each site has their pros and cons for custies.

    And I totally agree with BiscuitT's point about the growth in competition. 15 years ago camming would have been pretty new and not many people knew about it. Now more and more people are discovering it as a way to make money. And this may be a bit of a reach but I think the rough job market for new university grads (like myself) may also lead to a push in camming competition. I have a degree in nursing but couldn't find work, so i started masturbating for $$ lol, i bet theres others in my shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdenChan View Post
    I have a degree in nursing but couldn't find work, so i started masturbating for $$ lol, i bet theres others in my shoes.
    Off-topic, but wow, you couldn't find work in nursing where you live? That sucks! Come to the UK, there're never enough nurses.

    ETA: I know emigration is not a joke, so not being facile here. It's just, your skills are so valuable, it's obscene that they're not being appreciated in the job market.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvySinclair View Post
    a question for all girls: with so much free porn out there, sites with paid chats almost inexistent, do we really make money by charging more than 2 usd a min??? something to think abt it....the owner of cambabes was talking to me the other night and he was like upset that some girls were pmming him with questions like: how to make 1000 in 2hs? he said: i dont have the answer once sites like chaturbate and mfc won the market by offering everything for free, why would guys pay for ur time when there is so much for free??? lets think abt it...
    This is definitely NOT true. You may see a small dip in traffic when you raise prices at first because most of your customers have been the type who can't afford more than $2. When you charge more you will attract a whole different set of customers.


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    yes, but those are fewer for sure and if u need money, sometimes charging less and having more clients is better than working less for more, which usually narrow to the same amount of money made per week or month. yet i stay busy and the boredom is lower.
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    This is definitely NOT true. You may see a small dip in traffic when you raise prices at first because most of your customers have been the type who can't afford more than $2. When you charge more you will attract a whole different set of customers.
    This is so true. I know this is the camming sucks thread, but I recently upped my prices and camming has sucked far less. I get more respectful guys and the shows are way different. No one has demanded that I fuck myself silly with huge dildos.

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    i also agree with that, but that doesnt mean that the number of guys willing or that can spend more are the same as the ones that can or will spend less. its all about how our economy is acting right now. lots of ppl are willing to spend less in many things, porn aint different. what im trying to say is, can u make a good amount of money charging more and having less clients? coz for sure u wont make it even with the number of guys who want to spend less on shows. is just a thought girls, im not trying to create a situation here, im just thinking how things are working these days..
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    Hello, I'm a noob who usually just reads and thanks, but rn camming sucks bc of the weather. It's so hot outside, that is like an average of 90degrees inside of my third floor apartment. We don't have AC bc they have yet to get their shit together (the company that owns the Apts). When I cam, I over heat and feel dizzy, my comp and my phone overheat. My extra lighting just adds more heat. People notice that I'm sweating balls on cam and it's not pretty (even though i only wear eyeliner). Dx fucking Colorado heat 🔥

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    Im pissed off that Streamate says my round trip time is bad and they dont send traffic when its bad. My time to get to their servers is 47 milliseconds, thats really fast. Why am I punished because their servers have had issues for years and they know it. Why even make those requirements when they knew they had issues? Ive recorded it all to prove my time is fast but I know it wont matter since people have been complaining for years and it never helps. This is why so many performers have quit, no one listens to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvySinclair View Post
    yes, but those are fewer for sure and if u need money, sometimes charging less and having more clients is better than working less for more, which usually narrow to the same amount of money made per week or month. yet i stay busy and the boredom is lower.

    It depends. Charging less doesnt mean more paying customers, it just means you charge less. Look at how many performers do Gold shows and still cant hit the goal. They are charging $4 for a seven minute show and some guys still think thats high and dont pay. In my personal experience, the lower the rates I have, the more freeloaders I get. Now that I have higher rates I get nicer guys and longer shows.

    Freeloading isnt from the economy. Its from assclowns that feel entitled to free or cheap shows. They have always existed and are nothing new to the porn world. Ive cammed 11 years now and never have had cheap rates, so yes you can do just fine with higher rates. Id rather have three longs shows, then several three minute shows. The goal is to make money, not have a million different clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelli View Post
    Hello, I'm a noob who usually just reads and thanks, but rn camming sucks bc of the weather. It's so hot outside, that is like an average of 90degrees inside of my third floor apartment. We don't have AC bc they have yet to get their shit together (the company that owns the Apts). When I cam, I over heat and feel dizzy, my comp and my phone overheat. My extra lighting just adds more heat. People notice that I'm sweating balls on cam and it's not pretty (even though i only wear eyeliner). Dx fucking Colorado heat ��
    Welcome. Not sure what kind of lights you're using but fluorescent lights don't radiate heat like other lights. I use to feel dizzy as well because the monitor I was using radiated heat. I changed monitors but even with 2 fans and an AC I still sweat during shows. Fans definitely help and make sure you drink lots of water. I keep a big bottle of water near me and drink it throughout my shift. Sometimes I will put it in the freezer a few hours before I start working so that its extra cold and will remain cold during my shift. I also keep a roll of paper towels near me so that I can easily wipe myself off after a show.
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    About the fees, i just upped my prices back myself & had a couple pvt's where money added faster, if i lower the fees does not mean i make more or have more clients, i tried all combinations possible regarding fees, low price means low quality customers, is the same when u go shopping, if u see a higher price for a product u consider that product of quality and if u have the money u buy it, a broke person will comment even on the cheap products lol, the members who 'respect themselves' and respect the model will pay her price because firstly, he has the money and then he values a pricey model more than a cheap one, this is a general rule, now if u ask me, they wont pay everyone the same (depends a lot where u from as a model) but this is another story i dont wanna elaborate now.

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    kat, i agree with many things u said, im always very split by lowering them or raising them....sometimes i feel like raising and getting much money from my sessions with less effort, nowadays, my room doesnt get crowded (summer time) and i was feeling like lowering them to maybe make some more, not sure will help, not sure im right, im just maybe afraid that some day cam girls wont make shit anymore for the reasons i shared previously. I still make some good money, not awesome, but good now on winter, and i still can pay my bills, but im in a huge disadvantage when comparing with girls that do vanilla shows and offer audio, so i was thinking if by charging the same they do, i wouldnt be asking to much of my clientele. i should have this convo with other girls that do shows like me, in the same niche maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelli View Post
    Hello, I'm a noob who usually just reads and thanks, but rn camming sucks bc of the weather. It's so hot outside, that is like an average of 90degrees inside of my third floor apartment. We don't have AC bc they have yet to get their shit together (the company that owns the Apts). When I cam, I over heat and feel dizzy, my comp and my phone overheat. My extra lighting just adds more heat. People notice that I'm sweating balls on cam and it's not pretty (even though i only wear eyeliner). Dx fucking Colorado heat ��
    I can relate. It's 110 and higher where I now live, and it will be until late October.
    I bought a portable AC,( don't know if u saw my post about it) have 3 fans on me.
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    By the way...Still in that subject. How much do you girls think would be fair for a newbie camgirl? I'm starting on streamate this week and have no idea. Any help? xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvySinclair View Post
    kat, i agree with many things u said, im always very split by lowering them or raising them....sometimes i feel like raising and getting much money from my sessions with less effort, nowadays, my room doesnt get crowded (summer time) and i was feeling like lowering them to maybe make some more, not sure will help, not sure im right, im just maybe afraid that some day cam girls wont make shit anymore for the reasons i shared previously. I still make some good money, not awesome, but good now on winter, and i still can pay my bills, but im in a huge disadvantage when comparing with girls that do vanilla shows and offer audio, so i was thinking if by charging the same they do, i wouldnt be asking to much of my clientele. i should have this convo with other girls that do shows like me, in the same niche maybe.
    Just curious, why no vanilla shows anymore? Why no sound?
    These really increases the value of ur performance and gives u more options for shows on SM at least, attracts more guys.
    Sound can be used at lower volume, whispering etc, can be turned off when needed and about the vanilla shows, dont know why u decided not to do them anymore.

    What pisses me off on SM for example is the amount of guys who became cheap cause of the Gold shows, that i dont like but looks like that guys are only going in the GS rooms and there are still members to pay for pvt/excl, not that many anymore compared to years ago but still, they do pay.

    As i said before, i like to be a luxury 'product' and not a commodity, it pisses me off to sell my performance on cam for cheap, just knowing that guys could pay a cheap fee for my shows it's making me angry, i wanna know they pay at least a decent amount to see me performing for them.

    I dont charge very high cause i am pretty softcore in my shows (vanilla + some fetishes, i am also non native in english and this is a minus in my case even i am fluent) but i wont go too low either, i charge higher now. I get guys asking me to lower my fees to $1.99/min lol, now really? How about lower than that? I am being sarcastic of course.
    So no, not bellow $5/min. I am not getting younger nor slimmer but i still want to be treated with consideration so they have to pay the right price for me

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    the issue abt me not getting nude nor offering audio is for a good reason....im in my third marriage, i met my hubby when i was an escort and he was my client, when we got married i stopped escorting of course and i restarted to teach english as a second language. i did great until my son was born and i couldnt let him with anyone. i dont have family in sao paulo and day care here is very expensive, i dont like nannys, so i am waiting for a spot on the public service and it was said i could wait from a year to 2 to get him in. So, when my hubby lost his job and i couldnt teach, i decided to go back camming, but i wouldnt get naked for 2 reasons: one, im married now and my hubby would never accept (yes, that happens in macho countries like brasil) and second, i have a baby full time at home and while i wait for a show, i have to do 1000 things at home. For the audio thing, i cant offer as the baby is always around me and he screams a lot like any other baby, for 1000 different reasons, one, hes discovering his voice and second because babies scream. lol. imagine me doing a domme session with my baby crying in the background. no, right? lol
    so these are my options, and even then, i can pay the rent (not really, i dont rent a house, i have my own), anyway, u got it, i make good decent money, but if i did both things, im sure i would make 5 times more as i did in the past wehn i first started to cam.
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    ^^^ Makes sense, ty for explaining, sure, everyone knows what situation they have at home.
    Good luck there with the performance u able to offer xx

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    I would say between 3.99 to 5.99 for a newbie



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