^ I wondered on the same thing. What is this thing with Finland? o.O
^^ Yes, it's true, Finland takes care of the unemployed with a basic living wage. It's different from welfare in that it actually does cover all living expenses.
It will also be implemented in Canada as a trial.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...for-unemployed
Finland trials basic income for unemployed
Government hopes two-year social experiment will cut red tape, reduce poverty and boost employment
Finland has started paying a basic income of €560 a month to randomly selected unemployed people.
Finland has started paying a basic income of €560 a month to randomly selected unemployed people. Photograph: Guenter Artinger/EPA
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Jon Henley European affairs correspondent
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Tuesday 3 January 2017 18.15 GMT First published on Tuesday 3 January 2017 01.59 GMT
Finland has become the first country in Europe to pay its unemployed citizens an unconditional monthly sum, in a social experiment that will be watched around the world amid gathering interest in the idea of a universal basic income.
Under the two-year, nationwide pilot scheme, which began on 1 January, 2,000 unemployed Finns aged 25 to 58 will receive a guaranteed sum of €560 (£475). The income will replace their existing social benefits and will be paid even if they find work.
Kela, Finland’s social security body, said the trial aimed to cut red tape, poverty and above all unemployment, which stands in the Nordic country at 8.1%. The present system can discourage jobless people from working since even low earnings trigger a big cut in benefits.
“For someone receiving a basic income, there are no repercussions if they work a few days or a couple of weeks,” said Marjukka Turunen, of Kela’s legal affairs unit. “Working and self-employment are worthwhile no matter what.”
The government-backed scheme, which Kela hopes to expand in 2018, is the first national trial of an idea that has been circulating among economists and politicians ever since Thomas Paine proposed a basic capital grant for individuals in 1797.
Attractive to the left because of its promise to lower poverty and to the right – including, in Finland, the populist Finns party, part of the ruling centre-right coalition – as a route to a leaner, less bureaucratic welfare system, the concept is steadily gaining traction as automation threatens jobs.
A survey last year by Dalia Research found that 68% of people across all 28 EU member states would “definitely or probably” vote in favour of some form of universal basic income, also known as a citizens’ wage, granted to everyone with no means test or requirement to work.
In a referendum last year 75% of Swiss voters rejected a basic income scheme, but that proposal – to give every adult an unconditional minimum monthly income of SFr2,500 (£1,980) – would have meant increasing welfare spending from 19.4% to around a third of the country’s GDP, and did not have government backing.
Basic income experiments are also due to take place this year in several cities in the Netherlands, including Utrecht, Tilburg, Nijmegen, Wageningen and Groningen. In Utrecht’s version, called Know What Works, several test groups will get a basic monthly income of €970 under slightly different conditions.
One will get the sum as unemployment benefit, with an obligation to seek work – and sanctions – attached. Another will get it unconditionally, whether or not they seek work. A third will get an extra €125 providing they volunteer for community service. Another will get the extra €125 automatically, but must give it back if they do not volunteer.
The Italian city of Livorno began giving a guaranteed basic income of just over €500 a month to the city’s 100 poorest families last June, and expanded the scheme to take in a further 100 families on 1 January. Ragusa and Naples are considering similar trials.
In Canada, Ontario is set to launch a C$25m (£15m) basic income pilot project this spring. In Scotland, local councils in Fife and Glasgow are looking into trial schemes that could launch in 2017, which would make them the first parts of the UK to experiment with universal basic income.
Basic income for all: a 500-year-old idea whose time has come?
The Green party in the UK has supported the idea of a citizen’s wage, partly owing to rapidly increasing job insecurity and the rise of the gig economy, and partly owing to the massive costs associated with administering increasingly complex and unwieldy welfare systems.
Proponents of universal basic income argue that it can be more efficient and more equitable than traditional welfare systems, and will also protect people better as economies change through automation.
“Credible estimates suggest it will be technically possible to automate between a quarter and a third of all current jobs in the western world within 20 years,” Robert Skidelsky, professor of political economy at the University of Warwick, said in a paper last year.
He said a universal basic income that grew in line with productivity “would ensure the benefits of automation were shared by the many, not just the few.”
Economists Howard Reed and Stewart Lansley saw further benefits in a report for Compass last year. As well as a solid income base in an age of increasing economic and social insecurity, a universal basic income would offer “financial independence and freedom of choice for individuals between work and leisure, education and caring, while recognising the huge value of unpaid work,” they said.
Opponents, including the Conservative government which rejected a call from the Scottish National party last year for a basic income scheme, see it as unaffordable and unlikely to incentivise people to find work.
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what are these losers on Jasmin who just keep coming back, after banned them 10.000.000 times already and keep talking like we are best friends ever. All day long, any time I log in I see those same pathetic people and I can t get rid of them. Ofc never ever payed a cent or anything.
Naming a few: Darkem, lonewolf (if i dont respond that idiot start to talk to himself) boobie , GENTLEMAN, and many more. And it s not that they fuck off once in this life, they ll be even more in time. Once I had well paying regulars. Now these....
Note to myself: I started doing okay again during morning/ daytime. Somehow it seems like there are more "cultured" people on cam during that time. At least, it worked for me. Now i m on again tonight. Once again I try to cam tonight , someone pls hit me with a rock on the head. Not ever again! Beggars timewasters, only 2 min guys maybe, and to make it better they are rude as fuck.





What if you're making money just fine but camming still SUCKS cause you fucking hate it? Ugh I am so done with this game. I roll my eyes if i have to so much as get out of my seat and change my outfit. In fact i just shut off my cam knowing there was a guy coming back into private expecting me as a secretary, seriously it's that bad! They should just give me money for nothing!!!! ugh
These guys that keep asking to see face and freeload piss me off. So I'm supposed to show you how bored out of my mind I look and lose sales for that? No thanks.



Omg Susie..THIS! This, exactly. I get such a rush when I do an amazing show but the amusement I used to sometimes get has gone. I will literally shake my boobs in the cam and roll my eyes out of view. It's awful lol. I don't know what to do..I may have to look up a thread on careers post-camming. The idea of working for someone else now makes me want to shudder and break down in tears though. Maybe I'll do massage therapy alongside my Business Masters'..or personal training or something. They're things I enjoy. This is the closest post I've seen to exactly how I feel!
I have the bad habit of posting too early into my shift about it being bullshit, but I can safely say today is extremely slow as I am almost at the end and this is just impossibly bad. Slowest in weeks.





Actually, I just looked at Jasmin on facebook. They are promoting modells like we are here for a date. In many cases.
There are comments aswell at the photos and people who like them. Just look at those faces. Jesus.
All of them are the poor asian /african people I mean... I m not racist. I dont have a problem with any kind of people but they are not the ones who u want in your room.
So this is the "mass" what we get now, it seems. And I was confused, why these people in my room looks so stupid and broke now, like never before.
Beside free porn sites, I bet, many of the freeloaders come from fb. The ones who think it s a tv, and we wait soooo much to date with them, or anything.
As the irritation level and slowness goes up the money I can get goes down. If things ll go this direction slowly... who ll do this job, like... 5-10 yrs later? o.O
I mean... if it ll go like this what seems to happen, than u ll have 2 choices:
Do massive bullshit and work free as crazy on a private based site, so u can fish someone in. Maybe.
If u dont work for free, but u are a good modell and just showing attention in free, u ll sit here all day long and get all the poor brokes in ur room.
it s not too bad yet, but I bet a few yrs, and if things go like this, than camming ll be the creeping hell itself.
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I agree with all you said above 1 million fucking percent holy shit. You definitely need something else you are qualified in or that you can immediately start doing when working in this biz cuz its all going to shit.
I was there. I found the entirety of camming so disgusting. I would see my toys and get nauseated. My regulars disgusted me through no fault of their own. I would walk by my cam room and get heart palpitations. It's the same symptoms as PTSD. Depression, guilt, anger, and this frustration about why the fuck can't I just suck it up and get the fuck on cam. Why am I being so entitled and spoiled? I have it so much better now...etc. That's when you need to concentrate and find clarity on what exactly you want from your life. Then, change whatever you need to change to make it more bearable until you find something better.
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You have a way of writing just how I am feeling, Hyori.. though I struggle, personally, to verbalise it. I haven't had the actual nausea thing..though now you mention it, I think I may have had a little. I've definitely felt actual disgust towards regulars - even those who seem fairly decent people.
I have a degree, I'm currently doing a master too but have yet to find anything I can tolerate. I'm not sure I am even doing my MSc for the right reasons..ugh. I should have just worked extra hard when I started and opened a cat sanctuary or something..goodness knows if I'll ever find anything I truly enjoy, or at least makes me relatively content. Maybe it's a case of the grass always being greener? I dunno but Susie's post is pretty much EXACTLY how I feel, too.





^I just have to add that the PTSD thing is so real. I haven't gotten there with camming yet, but stripping has done that to me... especially the nausea and heart palpitations. I'm glad camming exists, but I can only tolerate sex work for so long before I need to go back to vanilla work.
Last night camming was pissing me off because I had a timewaster on Skype telling me how he wanted to suck my nipples, fuck me, etc., never actually buying a show. Like why the fuck would I want to hear you talk about that dude? You think camgirls want to fuck every faceless Skype member that contacts us from the depths of the internet? Ugh lol



Ew.. I hate that. I ban at the slightest hint of that, now. I am not one of those who can hustle people like that. Just no.
What do you think is the root cause of the PTSD? Sorry if I it sounds thick; it just might help me understand some of my own issues. X





Everyone's different, but I had a traumatic experience with stripping and escorting a long time ago. I developed some disordered ways of coping with it. Being in a highly sexual environment where I'm objectified and treated badly just brings back a lot of emotion and anxiety. I can still work, but I have to be careful about my mental health/avoiding anything too upsetting.
Camming sucks big balls, especially because I am on period and my gyno forbidden me to ever use internal tampons again (only in situations I really have to and should be rare ones). Because that caused my wounds on cervix and bla bla bla...
So, here I am sitting on cam, being able only to go topless in private and nothing more and of course, the assholes who want "pussy bb" decided all to come today in my room and those who only want to chat, vanished in the stratosphere.
And no, I don't do period fetishes. I am not that open minded)).
Waiting for a whale to save my night and only want to chat in pvt like...
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* Me, everytime a member has 100 requests in freechat, like he's at a 5 Stars All Inclusive Holiday Resort *


I feel like I'm in actual hell. WTF happened to all the good custies cos these ones are complete trash








Today and yesterday are unbelievably dead. Like I have never had 2 days in a row before that I am not even hitting min wage. I normally hit a few times that so this is straight up fucking bullshit. I need to log out and fucking cry.
This job is a fucking worthless piece of shit.





TMI warning... I don't know where else to vent about this lol...
The other night I had a video chat on Phrendly, and the guy's camera became blurry all of a sudden. At first I was like YESSS because I hate watching customers lol... but then he apologized for cumming on his camera o_O And he kept video chatting for about 5 more mins without cleaning it. *gag*
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