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    Default MFC shady practices: what are they?

    So you hear about Streamate girls being posted on tube sites by Streamate, SM marketing with bots, SM marketing on sites that cater to pedophiles (Motherless.com)...

    My question is, what shady shit does MFC engage in? You rarely hear about them doing this stuff to the same degree as SM...

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    Default Re: MFC shady practices: what are they?

    I know that no cam site is perfect, and of the tons of forum posts I've read, it seems like I've heard more shady things about SM than MFC.


    I don't know if this would be considered 'shady', but it's definitely what I'd consider a WTF move on MFC's part.....

    A MFC model got suspended just because while she was camming, her husband yelled out to her - FROM A DIFFERENT ROOM - "What do you want from McDonald's?"

    All day everyday there are public cum shows happening left and right (and no, I'm not hating), which MFC claims is against the rules, and even Leo himself has been seen tipping during these shows.

    But instead, let's ignore all of that and suspend a model just because we could hear her husband's voice from a different room. *sighs* Pretty ass-backwards, if you ask me.....

    Sorry that I couldn't really answer your original question. Maybe the other girls on here will have more knowledge on the subject.

    That's funny that you have 'Shady' in your screen name and started a thread about shady practices. LOL.
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    Default Re: MFC shady practices: what are they?

    -cam score is a trick/scam

    -yes there are various videos of MFC models out there on tube sites. Yes it could be just customers who swiped the video and posted it, but it could also be MFC admin. Keep in mind most of these tube sites don't accept random uploads. Ever try and upload a video to one of them yourself?

    -while SM might heavily advertise on porn sites and tube sites, MFC does the vast majority of its advertising on forums, chat sites like chatroulette, and dating sites.

    -there does not seem to be an affiliate program. Remember all the talk around here of MFC and their site that advertises free shows? People kept on saying it probably was an affiliate site. Well there is no open affiliate program, so my impression is that site was done and "ok'd" by one of the MFC owners. And with payouts to models being 50%+ (keep in mind they don't charge us for charge backs) I don't really see room in their budget to be operating an affiliate program.



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    Default Re: MFC shady practices: what are they?

    MFC ads pop up on many other sites shouting about never paying to see live sex again...I think that's pretty shady and very shabby
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    Default Re: MFC shady practices: what are they?

    lmao!!!! what shady practices????!!!! other than the Thousands of freeloading / screenrecording / underaged viewers / I Mean there isnt one more shady thing they could do....chargebacks maybe???
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    Default Re: MFC shady practices: what are they?

    The absolute shadiest thing about MFC is that their rules are a joke. I really feel if their rules about hardcore content were enforced it would be good for the industry as a whole and for MFC too.

    They don't enforce the rules in my opinion because they are making YOU take the fall if something were to happen (a minor seeing hardcore shows free - who gets in trouble? YOU do because you broke the rules of the site that you agreed to).

    I know a lot think that nobody will ever get in trouble for transmitting hardcore stuff to anyone on the net without any adult verification, but I really think the day will come when a host in a conservative area gets outed and in deep shit legally. (Remember the clips4sale arrest in Florida - nobody thought that would happen either).


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    Default Re: MFC shady practices: what are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    The absolute shadiest thing about MFC is that their rules are a joke. I really feel if their rules about hardcore content were enforced it would be good for the industry as a whole and for MFC too.

    They don't enforce the rules in my opinion because they are making YOU take the fall if something were to happen (a minor seeing hardcore shows free - who gets in trouble? YOU do because you broke the rules of the site that you agreed to).

    I know a lot think that nobody will ever get in trouble for transmitting hardcore stuff to anyone on the net without any adult verification, but I really think the day will come when a host in a conservative area gets outed and in deep shit legally. (Remember the clips4sale arrest in Florida - nobody thought that would happen either).
    Shit someone got arrested for making clips on clips4sale? Eeek does anyone have any more info about that? I'm done flashing boobs for gold etc now.


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    Default Re: MFC shady practices: what are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilChick1989 View Post
    Shit someone got arrested for making clips on clips4sale? Eeek does anyone have any more info about that? I'm done flashing boobs for gold etc now.
    Yes do tell?



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    Quote Originally Posted by OJenni! View Post
    -there does not seem to be an affiliate program. Remember all the talk around here of MFC and their site that advertises free shows? People kept on saying it probably was an affiliate site. Well there is no open affiliate program, so my impression is that site was done and "ok'd" by one of the MFC owners. And with payouts to models being 50%+ (keep in mind they don't charge us for charge backs) I don't really see room in their budget to be operating an affiliate program.
    There is an affiliate program. Its has like "baf" in the link name and then your ID #.

    Aside from what's mentioned, they record all your private shows for the original purchaser to watch forever- even if you delete your account. And I think some premium members can also watch those videos.

    Streamate is the worst of the worst when it comes to all that, so you won't find anything "worse" than that.

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    http://www.theledger.com/article/201...10609710?tc=cr

    "During questioning, Warren Taylor, 58, said he filmed the videos downloaded by the investigator and uploaded them for sale on the website clips4sale.com. The husband said the couple made an average of $700 monthly for the past four months.

    Warren Taylor was booked on six counts each of wholesale promotion of obscene material and distribution of obscene material, a misdemeanor.

    Theresa Taylor was booked on six counts each of selling obscene material and distributing obscene material, both misdemeanors. She was also charged with the felony wholesale promotion of obscene material."

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    Sm is definitely worse than MFC for recording shows and promoting them all over the internet...

    However, on balance, if you ever spend time on camgirl fanboy forums (those lovely sites where guys trade illegally procured videos of OUR shows like they are baseball cards...grrrr) you will rarely, if ever, find SM vids. You WILL find MFC vids by the bucketload, as well as lots of LJ vids. But it seems to me from doing some research (I like to keep an eye out for myself on these forums) that on MFC you are the most likely to have some douchebag record you and then post it all over the place.

    For the most part, I don't think of this stuff as "shady" any more than strip clubs taking a housefee or cut of dancers earnings - its just part of the biz. "Shady" to me sounds like something illegal, or immoral - when we sign up to these sites, we knowingly sign away our right to protest about the white label sites and that kind of advertising (and if anyone says they didn't know, then they signed a contract without reading it.).

    The one thing that does strike me as a little shady is advertising as "free" or "never pay to watch again"! That is just false advertising, as far as I am concerned. And it encourages freeloaders...grrrrrr
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilChick1989 View Post
    I'm done flashing boobs for gold etc now.
    Flashing boobs is not the real problem. It's actually not even against MFC's rules (although I don't like it personlly).

    Dildo and pussy and anal fucking shows in public with NO adult verification where anyone can watch without paying are the real violation there IMO. MFC's rules prohibit it but as we all know it's on there every day.


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    I'm not really on MFC (have an account, haven't used in months) - so this may be a really dumb question, but bear with me!

    When you (laurielegs) say "no adult verification" - is there a way to ensure that you HAVE adult verification for all the guys in your room if it is a public show??? That makes me feel waaay better about going back to work on MFC..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    I'm not really on MFC (have an account, haven't used in months) - so this may be a really dumb question, but bear with me!

    When you (laurielegs) say "no adult verification" - is there a way to ensure that you HAVE adult verification for all the guys in your room if it is a public show??? That makes me feel waaay better about going back to work on MFC..
    No, we don't. We don't even have 100% verification on sites like Streamate where they take CC signups - because minors can so easily steal mommys CC/or are issued a debt/prepaid card.

    In essence all we are doing is playing with fire, because you really just DON'T know.

    And a site like MFC - because of the way the rules are set up, all it takes is one hysterical parent to call it in that their son/daughter saw your cunt out in the open and the authorties nab YOU and not the site. MFC definitely has their asses covered and most sites are leaning towards this as a disclaimer, so they don't get the entire thing shut down. So they pin it on us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    The absolute shadiest thing about MFC is that their rules are a joke. I really feel if their rules about hardcore content were enforced it would be good for the industry as a whole and for MFC too.

    They don't enforce the rules in my opinion because they are making YOU take the fall if something were to happen (a minor seeing hardcore shows free - who gets in trouble? YOU do because you broke the rules of the site that you agreed to).

    I know a lot think that nobody will ever get in trouble for transmitting hardcore stuff to anyone on the net without any adult verification, but I really think the day will come when a host in a conservative area gets outed and in deep shit legally.



    I agree with you completely. Leo and the people at MFC know about the public shows, and they don't care. But as soon as a lawsuit comes about, they're not gonna have that model's back. They probably wouldn't hesitate to give her the boot, and they'll be like "Well, our rules state that penetration is NOT allowed...the model broke the rules." LOL.
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