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    Default Re: BBBJ is now the norm :(?

    Its a lot easier if you don't follow the "norm" and stick with your own boundaries. my rates are still the same for GFE and I decided if I am offering BBBJ or not. guys in my city claim I am too expensive for being over $200 an hour. t he guys who claim ia m too expensive aren't worth seeing anyway.
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    Do whatever you feel comfortable with. There is no need to decrease your rates just because of your preferences. Besides, you shouldn't be disclosing acronyms of any kind in your advertising.

    Just get rid of the term in your advertising all together and stop pigeon holing yourself.

    Even the $50 car date girls are making the ever-so-played-out GFE claim - think about it.
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    Default Re: BBBJ is now the norm :(?

    I don't understand this. I don't offer this but get asked all the time why I don't. Absolutely no offense to the girl who do offer it, but doesn't the guy think about how many bare penises have been in my mouth just hours before I put his in mine? Just the same for me if they ask about BB in general. Aren't they concerned about themselves? They must get an enormous amount of pleasure from bareback if it's worth risking their life over it..

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    Exactly. Escorting is ONLY fun when you're not doing any and everything for money. Stick to your boundaries.

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    I also agree with sticking to your boundaries...as well as not lowering your rates, you are worth just as much with or without it...no need to project that you value your time less because you do covered BJ. It really doesnt matter what anyone else does, or what is the norm or what have you. There are guys who prefer ladies who are totally covered, and will appreciate that you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    The problem is the majority of men seek girls out that do bbbj's. There's a much smaller percentage that prefer/ okay with cbj's. They use the "I can't get hard with a condom on" "I can't feel anything with it on" stupid excuses. Ughh I guess I gotta step up my game in a different way.

    If I were in a different position financially, I would strongly stand by my rate and my comfort level. I haven't been working at all for the past couple weeks and blew through my money so I'm low on funds. Not getting any responses recently has me really worried. I just lowered my rate temporarily to a super cheap price (ugh never have I ever dreamed of pricing myself low). I'm completely burnt out on strip clubs so that's not an option right now.
    I can promise you though...lowering your rate, especially to a super cheap rate...will not help you. All that will do is get the attention of super cheap guys, and those guys especially want as much as they can get for as little as they can get, and the pool of guys with a lot more to lose, have the most respect and do want a woman who will do everything covered will drop to even less.

    I know I have not been doing this very long, only about a year...but Ive seen it play out so many times, where when business gets slow, a lady will freak out and lower her rates to try and up business, and it starts this really bad downward spiral. On the flip, whenever Ive seen someone up their rate (including myself) business went up as well, partly because you put yourself in another price range where theres a whole other type of guy. Across the board too, when a ladys rate is really low, the guys see that as a direct reflection of what you think youre worth, the good guys wont be interested, and the cheap guys will read desperation and try to get one over on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    The problem is the majority of men seek girls out that do bbbj's. There's a much smaller percentage that prefer/ okay with cbj's. They use the "I can't get hard with a condom on" "I can't feel anything with it on" stupid excuses. Ughh I guess I gotta step up my game in a different way.
    How will anyone know what you do unless they actually meet you?

    If your bj's are your only selling point, then it may be time to rethink your marketing.

    Once you have a client in the room with you, its your job to make the ENTIRE experience as amazing as possible. A blowjob is 2% of the experience. Besides, there are so many ways to get a man hard and all kinds of condoms that create different sensations. You have to make safe sex fun for them.

    I understand its impossible to please everyone, but a combination of DISCREET marketing free of acronyms and sex slang + being a gracious hostess (complete with a "thank you" note the following day) + making safer sex fun and erotic = a perfect session every time.

    You also may want to try starting an additional escort persona, complete with different photos, rates, website and so forth. Experiment with your image.

    At my earning peak, I maintained my standards and never had an issue. Most of my business was repeat and had the same clients for 2-3 years. Why? Not because I did every acronym under the sun but because I provided excellent service.

    By the way, everyone I know is complaining that its slow. I've had stretches where I didn't see anyone for weeks. It happens.
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    Default Re: BBBJ is now the norm :(?

    Agreed. Oddly enough, I think I offer a better experience with a cover than without. A lot of men have preconceived notions for what a cbj is going to feel like and that it's a waste of time.
    You don't have to lie to them to get them in the door. You do have to build up your reviews and your appeal and make sure that 99% of the guys you see WANT to see you again (and there's always going to be that one jerkoff who isn't happy no matter who sees him.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiendishGyrator View Post
    Agreed. Oddly enough, I think I offer a better experience with a cover than without. A lot of men have preconceived notions for what a cbj is going to feel like and that it's a waste of time.
    You don't have to lie to them to get them in the door. You do have to build up your reviews and your appeal and make sure that 99% of the guys you see WANT to see you again (and there's always going to be that one jerkoff who isn't happy no matter who sees him.)
    It doesn't help that the stupid guys on escort chat boards encourage others to only see providers who give uncovered oral AND bully the providers into giving this service. There was LITERALLY a nasty backlash on one site when a lady announced she was no longer doing bbbj, due a disease scare. The poor girl was completely slammed by the men for making this decision. The men started thread after thread saying "how dare these whores actually take control of their bodies!" When I defended the girl's choice, telling them her decision should be applauded, someone dedicated an entire thread to boycotting me. How childish! I pulled my advertising and deleted my account. There was no way I was going to support a website that allowed that behavior.


    oh I wasnt suggesting that the OP lie. Just that there is no need to mention acronyms in her advertising, in doing so she is admitting to providing illegal services.
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    TC-- I wasn't trying to say you were suggesting lying. I was more responding to the OP.

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    Reading the boards will mess with you if you allow it. Just post your ads and log off. The posters are only a microcosm of the industry and there thousands who only lurk...and even more who don't use the review boards at all. I stressed about all of this in the beginning but once business began to take off (and clients were coming back) I realized its all BS. If you provide good service and you have a connection with the client, they will return.

    It also helps to remember the board posters rarely book a lady more than twice; they just want the bragging rights. Sometimes they lie! I googled myself recently and found a conversation about me on TER. One poster said they had seen me, but the way the guy was talking I knew it was a ball-faced lie.

    It's a sad day when a guy has to lie to his online buddies about a "conquest."


    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    Yes I also posted this thread after reading the TER board threads that I read about bbbj vs cbj.

    I can't stand TER boards...but unfortunately that's the way to get your name out there and more business. I hate how the TER rating system causes girls to compete with each other for a top 100 spot....It leads to ladies doing unsafe things to get a 10 on reviews and creates tons of drama.

    I know guys love to review girls but the whole review process is downright awful. It should be kept private. The juicy details section is the worst part of the site blehhhh. That section of the review reminds me of how it would feel if I had sex with some guy at a party and then heard that he told everyone he knows graphic details about how I was in bed/what I did....so embarrassing!!

    But anyways, I saw a post where they did a poll on who would see a provider that only did cbj and I think only 24 guys said yes. 114 or so said no. That worried me. If that many men were opposed to bbbj, imagine how many more men who dont use TER are opposed to it. Of course there are guys out there that don't mind cbj or prefer cbj, but to actually make consistent money bbbj is in demand.

    The only way I'd ever do bbbj as part of my service would be for $1,000+ per hour. It's too risky to do on a daily basis plus there's too many dirty people out there. I'm happier and have a better time doing cbj.

    No I don't use acronyms on my page nor talk about it or else I'd get arrested right away because of that. I vaguely word it so the client understands.
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    Default Re: BBBJ is now the norm :(?

    Want another reason to hate TER?

    The mods REFUSED two different clients of mine the right to give me 9s and 10s based on the fact that I did not do BBBJ.
    They wouldn't let them submit the reports (they complained about this to me) until it was changed.

    Now, the guys could be lying, not wanting to hurt my feelings with solid 8s, but these guys were gaga for me and repeaters, so I didn't get that impression.
    What shitheads for controlling their own system when there were clearly bigger fish to fry-- like those who lie about meeting a girl, or post stuff that didn't happen that a girl contests (like when a guy would post that a girl was a PSE instead of GFE trying to get her more business when really it was doing her a disservice because all the PSE-seekers would think she was bait and switching them.)
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    Yes, they say its to keep the scores consistent. Such BS.
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    If youre doing BJ'sor anything for200-300 you need to re evaluate your pricing and all that...

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    According to the TER review guidelines a reviewer can't score an escort higher than a 7 unless she is willing to do the following: french kiss, bbbj, really bi, anal, or more than one guy. The escort potential maximum score is raised by one point for each of those services offered to a maximum score of 10.

    So if I review a girl and she doesn't offer bisexual experiences (another girl), doesn't offer anal, doesn't offer to see more than one guy at a time, doesn't offer to kiss with tongue, and doesn't offer to do bbbj then the highest score I could give her is a 7.

    TER says its to maintain consistency in their reviews. It does seem to put some pressure on ladies to offer services that they may not really be comfortable with in order to get higher review scores and it is weighted to favor activities preferred by the guys. Then again it is a hobbyist board, so that sorta comes with the territory.

    The bbbj is more common than it used to be in the late 90's and early 2000's. Part of this might be the review pressure but then part of it might she be a shift in views of sexual safety by younger women.

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    Personally I hate cbj - the condom tastes gross (and yes I use flavored lube) and the pucker at the tip for "collection" tickles my throat and not in a good way! I'm so crazy I'd rather charge more for GFE and safe GFE than PSE but, again, that's because I'm crazy.

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    As soon as we stop charging guys less than what were worth we'll get the money we're worth...

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    I've noticed that the older the client is the more the want for bbj. My clients who are in their 40s and younger don't seem like the type to complain of the sort. The older guys are the freaky ones with their wet sloppy kisses and nipple pinching

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    Quote Originally Posted by idgaf_luvr View Post
    I've noticed that the older the client is the more the want for bbj. My clients who are in their 40s and younger don't seem like the type to complain of the sort. The older guys are the freaky ones with their wet sloppy kisses and nipple pinching
    Uggh no kidding! Their definition of DFK is sticking their tongue down your throat until you gag and biting your lips until they bleed! The younger ones at least know how to kiss!!

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    This is one of the reasons why I'm totally rethinking the whole idea of BBBJ and DFK:

    http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/1876256...officials-warn

    I've always been GFE before but have managed to stay safe. However, this article has really scared the scrap outta me especially since I've traveled internationally (and will probably again in the future). It's just a matter of time before it's a big deal over here. I don't like to think about it but the consequences (till better meds are found) are quite severe. It boils down to sticking your head in the sand and rolling the dice or refusing business because of this.

    Needless to say, the guys on TER are going to be in complete denial. I for one am giving serious thought to how I can make the whole "experience" more creative and magical especially in the face of increased competition in a tight economy. What's a girl to do?

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    First of all, what constitutes GFE has been argued on every escort board out there. However, if you are a SAFE gfe you will not make as much money as the girls that are GFE. I'm sorry but I don't read silly articles like that one. I have been a GFE provider for 3 plus years and I have never EVER caught any STD. The risks with BBBJ are minimal and it is one that I am willing to take. I will NEVER engage in unsafe activities like BBFS. I also will not allow clients to greek me, rim me... etc

    Yes if you ask the men on TER - they will tell you that GFE is DFK and BBBJ. only do what you feel comfortable doing. I feel very comfortable doing bbbj. It is not something I decided to do for more money if that were the case, greek and TUMA would also be on my "menu". Stick to your guns. You can be successful without the review boards but you will have a harder time. Maybe you should look into a sensual massage or exotic maid gig...

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    The link to that article is very valid. Ghonerra(sic) has the ability to mutate and become drug resistant just as many germs already have. And that's why I'll just keep everything covered for my own peace of mind. Besides who says a RL "boyfriend" of mine even gets a bbbj? Lmao

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    Well, it's not a big deal over here yet (numbers-wise), but it's growing in SE Asia and elsewhere. With no new drugs in the pipeline (takes ~10 years for development), it WILL be a major problem in a few years. So, you may be okay over here for a little while.

    Since I like to travel far and wide, this gave me room for pause and has made me re-think a few things. And, yes, it may involve not doing full-GFE and not commanding the same rate (the exotic maid thing, I dunno ;0). But in the face of no cure on the horizon, it makes me wonder what things are going to be like over here in a few years. God forbid the hobbyists can't get their BBBJ.

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    This problem is coming to america just a matter of when.

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