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    I have very much enjoyed perving, and I very much enjoy travelling around SM, tipping wonderful performers as tokens of admiration for their work. But lately I've just been so pissed off at how many models there are who are breaking the rules. I can't stomach it, especially when I, a fellow model, am busting my ass trying to make a living, and there are these girls who are just taking the biscuit by not using the site in it's intended way.

    This is NOT intended to be a thread pointlessly bitching about other models. This is a pro-active thread discussing actual violations, reports, and follow-ups.


    Below is one of my reports:

    Performer ****** is currently broadcasting below the belt nudity in free chat. Camera is zoomed in on bare top-mid crotch.

    Enclosed is a screenshot. Let me know if these reports are welcome / unwelcome. I just want to help everybody earn more money by using your wonderful site as intended. Thank you!
    Their response:

    Thank you for writing. Please attach the screen shots to the email and send them to us.
    Their response after I attached the responses to their email (they understandably must be cagey about clicking external links! So if you want to report models, use an email attachment as opposed to external photo hosting sites) -

    We appreciate your report and take all account violations very seriously. We will gladly investigate the issue and take proper action on the account.

    I wanted to get this out there for people who are concerned that Streamate don't give a crap about performers who break the terms of service, and encourage others to report performers who are breaking site rules.

    I love Streamate. I don't want it to turn into a shit hole.




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    I just want to know who the almighty Liz is? Anyone know?

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    OP- I think this has been addressed in the past and clarified that you can show "below the belt nudity" as long as no pink is showing. I could be wrong.

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    God knows why anyone would WANT to show all that in free chat. I just don't understand, they are only ruining it for themselves.

    Le sigh. . no point in pondering about it anymore. The days where men bought DVDs, subscriptions to member sites, 20 dollar porn movies OnDemand, and went to a private with girls regularly by seeing no 'live' previews are LONG gone. The whole entertainment industry as a whole changed. Who even buys music albums anymore? Or movies? We have Netflix and Pandora, as well as tube sites, gold show countdowns, and myfreecams. The only thing to focus on anymore is building my brand and perfecting my niche to rise above all that bs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPinkCupcake View Post
    God knows why anyone would WANT to show all that in free chat. I just don't understand, they are only ruining it for themselves.

    Le sigh. . no point in pondering about it anymore. The days where men bought DVDs, subscriptions to member sites, 20 dollar porn movies OnDemand, and went to a private with girls regularly by seeing no 'live' previews are LONG gone. The whole entertainment industry as a whole changed. Who even buys music albums anymore? Or movies? We have Netflix and Pandora, as well as tube sites, gold show countdowns, and myfreecams. The only thing to focus on anymore is building my brand and perfecting my niche to rise above all that bs.
    i agree. thats the current style of consumerism now. we're in a want-more for less, want a sample first, discounted, on-demand society. its not necessarily a bad thing, just sucks for us who are putting a lot into our work and not tryna just ride the wave, make a quick buck and get out. girls who do that devalue us as a whole, but like strip clubs and extras it's too late to go back and the only thing you can do to compete is to have an edge over other girls with a strong brand, following, and product to offer. The days of banking off just being cute and putting on a decent show is over cuz of oversaturation of our market and people under pricing. That's any industry though, not just porn. The main thing that worries me is regarding regulation. I worry one day the wrong person will stumble onto someone breaking the rules and having sites get shut down.

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    There is a site I cam on where it's as if the admin of the site don't give a shit that their rules are followed or not. It just started in mid-Dec and did a stupid move by starting as a 'free live cam site' where models got money for being popular over a certain time period. Without effort, I made some money. When more people found out about it...it got harder and cutthroat as shit.

    I've always been one to keep people to the standard they agree to but their behavior affects me as their coworker. I NEVER broke a rule on the site I speak of however there were people who would turn on their cams and broadcast a video, people doing drugs, people who were fucking asleep, and get this..."BRB" signs left on empty chairs while the cam continued to run.

    I emailed support around 2-3 weeks reporting this kind of b.s. with screenshots. I only stayed around because a tipping/private chat system was going to be available to "ProModels" but still let amateur/regular models cam. This only makes more guys come into my room pissed I'm not doing free shit. But I digress.

    It angered me that the site wasn't monitoring the cams whatsoever. A lot of awful things were happening including minors on cam, a passed out girl getting violated, and a girl getting slapped by her boyfriend. However there's a part of me who wants to piece this together and make it work. It could be a good camsite and rewarding to those who put forth effort however sticking free amateur cams in with paid cams is moronic as well as setting up rules that get broken constantly. The cam site has no mods, no admins, nothing that can shut down a cam other than enough people clicking "report" and the same option.

    This brings me to trying to do even more work to stand out and I have gotten a loyal group of followers because of it. It just seems like this site doesn't even care and they use the excuse that they aren't staffed enough to make anyone a mod. I OFFERED. They pretended like I never asked.

    I get your frustration OP. It's situations and people that you speak of that give guys the idea our work and entertainment isn't valuable. I'm working the hardest I can as one person to try and change that by getting more behind the scenes and being a no bullshit reliable person. I keep waiting for that chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaBohemia View Post
    and get this..."BRB" signs left on empty chairs while the cam continued to run.
    I fail to see why this is a huge deal if it's only for a few minutes. I know that on SM before I had the pause button, if I needed to run to the bathroom it was a lot easier to put up a sign for a minute rather then mess with the encoder and phone options all over again.

    But yeah...given SM's marketing strategies I don't think that they care on a personal or moral level. They just don't want to get into legal trouble, and they want to make money. So as long as those two requirements continue to be fulfilled, their enforcement will be half-assed at best. Although I agree that it isn't a good long term business strategy.

    I also don't know what the result of more girls reporting other girls will be. Either they will take it seriously out of fear that they'll loose models, or they'll just put up more "walls" to protect themselves because it's easier then dealing with each complaint. They don't have a lack of girls there so I have a feeling that they'll probably fall within the later. And I highly doubt that enough girls will get together to form an effective protest.

    At some point, the popularity SM will be replaced with another site, and general camming shows will become more competitive if more general shows are public. But this still leaves a lot of room for specializing in niches/fetishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amberose View Post
    I fail to see why this is a huge deal if it's only for a few minutes. I know that on SM before I had the pause button, if I needed to run to the bathroom it was a lot easier to put up a sign for a minute rather then mess with the encoder and phone options all over again.
    nah, longer than 15 minutes. There was a girl who would cam and she would have her boyfriend start her cam to get people in her room and sit there while she showered and got ready. 30 damn minutes of a dude on her cam telling viewers "she's getting ready". This girl also won $1000 in bonus money and would ban people from her room just because they were female because "I hate bitches and their drama".

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    one chick on there fully gets high on camera everytime she is online irratates me cause its not like illegal drugs are legal in most north american states and provinces. I doubt its legal in mexico. streamate did nothing about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    one chick on there fully gets high on camera everytime she is online irratates me cause its not like illegal drugs are legal in most north american states and provinces. I doubt its legal in mexico. streamate did nothing about it
    I had a guy once who was going around rooms LOOKING for girls on drugs. Specifically, he "liked my girls on the pipe".

    Still not ok, but dayum.
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    Both my best friend and I worked on this site, we constantly saw girls breaking the rules. We would report the customers mainly asking for illegal things but the worst part is that their rules arent exactly set clearly, well you'd think not by the way the customers request things. They ask for clearly illegal things and they do nothing about it when you tell them this, on top of it they dont make their rules clearer. I dont know why other girls fuck it up for the ones who are trying to do things legitimately. Its also crazy that they only give some girls gold shows, ofcourse I lost privates, who would pay 5 a min when they can go into a gold show..

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    To be fair - for drugs on cam there is always plausible deniability. ppl can be smoking tobacco and huffing pixie sticks and injecting water or something. reporting it probably doesnt do much of anything. but a big drooling vadge is always a big drooling vadge.





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    I do all my reporting from a non-logged-in browser and an anonymous email account. The screencaps prove they aren't behind the wall, since it's being broadcasted to people that aren't logged in.

    Also, that way they don't get banhappy on me for reporting other models. They've done it before, basically as a "don't waste our time reporting fellow models. Let the clients do the reporting". As if the "clients" will report anything.....
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    Had him in my room too, asking if I was high. Ofcourse told him "no". He was very surprised, because
    "In Holland it is legal so why dont you smoke pot then"

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    I had a guy once who was going around rooms LOOKING for girls on drugs. Specifically, he "liked my girls on the pipe".

    Still not ok, but dayum.

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    The ones I see giving it all up in free chat are exactly where they spend, if not all, most of their time.....in FREE CHAT! lol





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    [QUOTE=Decalyn;2318189]I do all my reporting from a non-logged-in browser and an anonymous email account. The screencaps prove they aren't behind the wall, since it's being broadcasted to people that aren't logged in.
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    What about when a screencap isn't an option? Specifically, there is one girl there who is ALWAYS offering Skype shows. I don't have a memeber acct on SM but I want to report her because I feel that undercuts my business. Not only is she taking paying members away from the site, but then custies bitch at me go seek out other models who will Skype with them. Would y'all recommend I make a members acct to report this? Since a screencap isn't really applicable in this type of situation I'm not sure if the site will actually do anything about it anyway (even though this practice is clearly losing them a lot of money).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CourtneyRaine View Post
    What about when a screencap isn't an option? Specifically, there is one girl there who is ALWAYS offering Skype shows. I don't have a memeber acct on SM but I want to report her because I feel that undercuts my business. Not only is she taking paying members away from the site, but then custies bitch at me go seek out other models who will Skype with them. Would y'all recommend I make a members acct to report this? Since a screencap isn't really applicable in this type of situation I'm not sure if the site will actually do anything about it anyway (even though this practice is clearly losing them a lot of money).
    At that point, I would still go the anon email-report. They can keep an eye on her and catch her in the act if you say specifically that she's offering skype shows in chat rather than having guys pay on-site.

    SM will prolly take that pretty seriously, especially if you mention that she's using THEIR traffic to get HER shows, without paying a cent of THEIR cut. Last time I brought up that someone was costing the site money without contributing content, I didn't even get a copypasta response, I got an actual response saying how that was unacceptable and that they really didn't get how girls thought they could get away with that. Wish I still had the response to quote proper. xD
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