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    Default Custies offering to pay via Payoneer?

    I was on mfc last night and a guy asked if I accepted PayPal or Payoneer- I get asked for PayPal a lot but Payoneer threw me off. Do they have the same kind of no-adult-transactions policy as PayPal? I assume not since I use it myself for skinvideo. But yeah, I was confused, especially since I'm wondering if it wouldn't give him my real info. To be on the safe side I told him tokens or nothing.
    Thoughts? Anyone else do customer transactions with Payoneer?

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    Default Re: Custies offering to pay via Payoneer?

    I get private loads on payoneer all the time but not for cam shows because the transactions don't always approve immediately. Payoneer is fine with adult. They are a widely used payment processor by cam sites since epassporte went under. I had a guy suggest payoneer to me the other night for the first time so guys are definitely catching on.

    I still advise against it for immediate cam shows though because of the payment approval time.

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    As Juliette stated they are fine with adult, but the payments do take time. I use it to accept tributes though, and there have been no problems.
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    Does it give out your real info though? That's good to know that it can at least be accepted for a private show

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    I believe Nissim said , that the only way the payment wouldn't approve, would be , if the guy has a stolen card, or if he rings his CC company and charges back , which would be possible with any payment processer even if it showed as cleared - ....... I'm not saying this as fact , I may have got the wrong end of the stick - but can someone clarify or correct me if I'm wrong - So far I've only used payoneer for private loads from trusted regs - Ie those I see in real life too ... I'm still wary to take it from random guys , but I believe some girls are with no problems ? ( hopefully this will be moved into otherwork where Nissim can comment . )

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    ^ I'm assuming if he didn't have the funds - it wouldn't let him make the payment ..... but again , I need that clarifying - because I do a lot of assuming with payoneer lol

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    Ukmissy - it is the same as any other payment processor in terms of the ability to do a chargeback. However, with all of them, there is a time limit as to when they can cancel their payment. I believe that payoneer is two days, though you would have to double check that (maybe someone else can confirm/deny?).

    For that reason, I agree with most of these girls - don't take it for immediate shows unless you are dealing with someone you trust. If you are booking shows in advance (at least three days in advance) then its a great method.

    As for giving them your info, I know that you load simply by going to the payoneer website and typing in an e-mail address or payoneer number. Its like paypal that way, so I don't think it would give out your real info. I would sign up with a PO Box and your stage name anyway, just in case.

    On the topic of chargebacks, I wanted to share a douchbag's comment with you girls. We were messaging about a skype show, and I told him that I always do the first few payments with amazon giftcards (its because they cannot be refunded, so you know you are getting it! Once I know someone is not a freeloader, I switch to a payment processor). He immediately cottoned on that he couldn't get a refund, and said he wouldn't do it, because "If I don't think you are good enough, I can't get my money back". WTF?!?!?!?!
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    It's confusing . I'm sure I asked Nissim this question in another thread - and he advised me that there's no period where the guy can hit cancel . The only way would be to ring his credit card company , or if he was using a stolen credit card . I basically asked Nissim ''is there a cancel function'' ... he said no .... But I'm not 100% sure I got the right end of the stick .

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    Default Re: Custies offering to pay via Payoneer?

    I asked him that and yeah its only if he calls his cc company to cancel. And then they investigate it and goes from there. There is no payment processor that is 100% free of charge backs but the odds of it happening are low because it is a lot harder to process it through the CC. I have been using Payoneer for a year and have never had a chargeback. But I also agree that I wouldn't use it for camshows unless you wait for it to clear. Better to be safe than sorry =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    On the topic of chargebacks, I wanted to share a douchbag's comment with you girls. We were messaging about a skype show, and I told him that I always do the first few payments with amazon giftcards (its because they cannot be refunded, so you know you are getting it! Once I know someone is not a freeloader, I switch to a payment processor). He immediately cottoned on that he couldn't get a refund, and said he wouldn't do it, because "If I don't think you are good enough, I can't get my money back". WTF?!?!?!?!
    I really like this idea ! I normally avoid giftcards for service, and tend to only take them as a gift , but you are right, it's a great way to weed out the time wasters .... As for that guy , I want to punch him in the face for you .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManyRoses View Post
    Ukmissy - it is the same as any other payment processor in terms of the ability to do a chargeback. However, with all of them, there is a time limit as to when they can cancel their payment. I believe that payoneer is two days, though you would have to double check that (maybe someone else can confirm/deny?).

    For that reason, I agree with most of these girls - don't take it for immediate shows unless you are dealing with someone you trust. If you are booking shows in advance (at least three days in advance) then its a great method.

    As for giving them your info, I know that you load simply by going to the payoneer website and typing in an e-mail address or payoneer number. Its like paypal that way, so I don't think it would give out your real info. I would sign up with a PO Box and your stage name anyway, just in case.

    On the topic of chargebacks, I wanted to share a douchbag's comment with you girls. We were messaging about a skype show, and I told him that I always do the first few payments with amazon giftcards (its because they cannot be refunded, so you know you are getting it! Once I know someone is not a freeloader, I switch to a payment processor). He immediately cottoned on that he couldn't get a refund, and said he wouldn't do it, because "If I don't think you are good enough, I can't get my money back". WTF?!?!?!?!
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    I had a guy ask the same thing on MFC.
    Told him just to take me prvt there. He responded that MFC wont let him buy anymore tokens that his acct was flagged. AKA he tried to do a charge back for the tokens he spent.

    Now as if! I were to trust him is laughable.

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    Default Re: Custies offering to pay via Payoneer?

    I came across something called alert pay does anyone know if that's a secure way to receive payment?? Has anyone used alert pay before??

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    Actually, an amazon gift card can be refunded up until you redeem the code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoddessLynne View Post
    Actually, an amazon gift card can be refunded up until you redeem the code.
    Yes, always always add it to your account immediately!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Milan View Post
    I came across something called alert pay does anyone know if that's a secure way to receive payment?? Has anyone used alert pay before??
    If you search the forum you will find a few threads on alert pay - There seems to be a few problems with accepting credit cards there at the moment, and they seem to be tightening up with their adult policy . I stopped using them last year when I suffered a huge security breach ( their fault ) , and nearly ended up losing $1500 !!! I was very lucky to spot the transaction in time , and once I got to the root of their dysfunction, I closed my account ..... I believe some girls are still using it , but it's far from the way forward , IMO .

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Yes, always always add it to your account immediately!
    ha ha , I can't get them spent fast enough - I've usually added them , spent them , and started wondering what to buy with the next ones before the show is even up = shopaholic !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukmissy View Post
    If you search the forum you will find a few threads on alert pay - There seems to be a few problems with accepting credit cards there at the moment, and they seem to be tightening up with their adult policy . I stopped using them last year when I suffered a huge security breach ( their fault ) , and nearly ended up losing $1500 !!! I was very lucky to spot the transaction in time , and once I got to the root of their dysfunction, I closed my account ..... I believe some girls are still using it , but it's far from the way forward , IMO .
    Thank you UK missy I'll deff read some of those threads on alert pay, but from what you say about it, something tells me I'll be staying far away from it!!

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    DONT DO PAYONEER FOR CAMSHOWS! I just got burned badly a couple of days ago by a douchebag so don do it! I still use it for customs because you can wait for the approval but be very very careful.

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    This is what bothers me about payoneer ^ ...When the pvt load function was invented , I remember a girl on here , bascailly taking 4 chargebacks in a row !!! You say you were fucked over the other night - Be nice if this were moved and Nissim could shed some light , because other adult payment processors just do not seem to have this rate of charge back .... So payoneer is losing my respect ...

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    Yes and the fact that the entire card was frozen over one chargeback is something that doesn't make much sense to me. I'm probably going to stick to using camwealth's page and get the 70%. I would rather do that then risk having all of my income frozen. Its a shame too because I really like payoneer. I called yesterday an they said they couldn't give a date as to when they would reopen my card. I called them back today an asked to speak with a supervisor and they said they would give me a call back. I'll keep you ladies updated.


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    After not receiving a call back from them I called them back an they told me that they can no open the card or make any funds available to me until they are done researching it. My SM and Xpeeps money is also UNAVAILABLE to me until they are done. I have no idea how I will be able to pay my rent without having access to my hard earned money because of a stupid $50 chargeback. I used to highly recommend payoneer but will no longer be using this company or recommending them to anyone I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondCupcakes View Post
    Yes and the fact that the entire card was frozen over one chargeback is something that doesn't make much sense to me. I'm probably going to stick to using camwealth's page and get the 70%. I would rather do that then risk having all of my income frozen. Its a shame too because I really like payoneer. I called yesterday an they said they couldn't give a date as to when they would reopen my card. I called them back today an asked to speak with a supervisor and they said they would give me a call back. I'll keep you ladies updated.


    **UPDATE**
    After not receiving a call back from them I called them back an they told me that they can no open the card or make any funds available to me until they are done researching it. My SM and Xpeeps money is also UNAVAILABLE to me until they are done. I have no idea how I will be able to pay my rent without having access to my hard earned money because of a stupid $50 chargeback. I used to highly recommend payoneer but will no longer be using this company or recommending them to anyone I know.
    OMG

    I need to go take down all my Payoneer links. damn. This really sucks

    I'm so sorry to hear this and hope they can get you back on soon. Have you contacted Nissim? Maybe he can help get it done.


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    Them holding all of your money over a $50 chargeback is ridiculous. Why would they not just hold the chargeback amount? I'm so sorry DC, hopefully you can switch around some payment methods before rent is due.

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    Can you post in the other work section about this and Nissim can respond ? This seems like really bad service ! I too won't be using them for any private loads based on what happened to you . Not if they close the card so suddenly like that .

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    Nissim messaged me today and I sent him all my info. He opened my card back up (THANK GOD) and said he would look into the matter personally. I am glad he is here in the forums because if it wasn't for him I would be screwed. I even tried speaking with supervisors when I called to no avail. I wish I would have taken down the names f the reps I spoke with earlier because this does seem like a case of bad customer service. Everytime I called I was sent away with no answers other then I will hear from them eventually. Thank you Nissim for helping me in a terrible situation! If I keep my payoneer it will be because of Nissim. I will keep you ladies updated on this status of the situation. I know there needs to be further investigation so I am not sure if the lift is temporary or not. Either way I''m taking my cash out ASAP till the matter is resolved

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