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    Default What girls here do camming independently?

    I have to say Im a bit upset at the moment. I have had some health issues so camming has been harder than ever. I was on an ok role for a bit but my regulars are not around so much after I took a few weeks off, well i had one good week but really I have went back to making very little.

    I put an add up so I can do more caming independently and I guess Im upset as the guys are trying to hustle down my price. Its like a thing to me that I charge a certain amount, I feel Im worth it, I can only do so many shows ( especially the hour ones that arent just talking and mostly sexual stuff) and I put a lot of energy into them so I don't want to go down on my cost, that among other reasons. The other thing is that Im not making money too much lately and I really do need it for my treatment so I am having a hard time trying to decide to accept lesser amounts.

    I mean where do you draw the line at your rates with independent customers?

    This guy tried to offer me half of what I charge.!! I know that 4 a min is a lot but when you think about it, its cheaper than some sites and they get one to one on skype. He was referred to me from a friend and I know he had paid my friend the 4 a min.. If I lower my prices than I feel that Im undervaluing my service and other girls at the same time. Its like I don't feel good about doing it for cheaper even if I have to wait it out... yet it nags me as I do need the money and I know its more than what I would get on some sites.

    Am I being unrealistic or crazy? I know that I have gotten my rate in the past and I dont see why It wont happen again.
    Not that I have done too much independently but guys pay for me on other sites at that rate.


    Id like to hear from any other girls who work independently about this, any ideas or what not. I am kinda a bit upset about this as Its a slow time for me and all, I guess we dont question our selves when were doing well right? :|....

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    Default Re: What girls here do camming independently?

    I work indy but I don't have enough of a fan base built up to do ONLY indy. When I'm logged on to IM to do indy I get about 90% time wasters and freeloaders and guys who want me to lower my prices. I refuse to cater to them. I do indy when I don't feel up to dealing with free chat or other sites. It's nice for days when I'm not feeling my best or to have on in the background on a slow day. I recommend supplementing your indy income with whatever else you can, if not other sites try selling content on Clips4Sale or MyGirlFund or something. The indy camming world takes a thick skin, patience and a good following of repeat customers. I know some girls on here who make a killing independently but for me, so far, not so much lol.

    Good luck!

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    Default Re: What girls here do camming independently?

    The only people I'll offer indy shows to are those that have done shows with me before. They usually email or tweet me wanting to do a show with me, or they've done a skype show with me before and want another one. I don't charge quite as much as the site from which he found me charges, but close. I am still making more of a profit doing that, but its not cash. I only accept Amazon e-giftcards because they're instant and non-refundable. Any other payment methods just aren't worth it to accept IMO. Moneypaks are a good idea, but too much work for the customer usually. Payoneer is a good idea, but it takes like 3-5 days. Plus, Amazon e-giftcards don't count as income technically (no taxes on it ), and anything you could ever want is sold on there.

    Indy just isn't worth it IMO unless you absolutely hate camming and focus on content or affiliate marketing or some other thing the entire tire. Or if you've been camming for years and have a lot of diehard regulars you've kept in touch with. The time you lose waiting for shows, marketing, and dealing with time-wasters just wouldn't pay off IMO. But I'm not indy really, so obviously that's what I would think. If this all isn't helpful, just disregard it lol. I don't think I answered what you asked? But there's my thoughts on it.

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    Default Re: What girls here do camming independently?

    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Indy just isn't worth it IMO unless you absolutely hate camming and focus on content or affiliate marketing or some other thing the entire tire. Or if you've been camming for years and have a lot of diehard regulars you've kept in touch with. The time you lose waiting for shows, marketing, and dealing with time-wasters just wouldn't pay off IMO.
    This is exactly why I quit indy. I make way more per hour just working a busy site, and I don't have to waste my time with cheapskates and guys who think they can get it free by using paypal and reversing charges.


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    I can so relate to you on this one. I started camming because of health issues. There are days when I'm fantastic and get all my shit done and then there are days where I'm stuck in bed, unable to move and it hurts to look at anything brighter than a shadow.

    Because of the hassle with payment of indie camming I have done it less and less and rely moreso on affliate programs and offering custom content on sites like extralunchmoney. Here are my rules with it currently...

    -I offer indie shows to guys who are my regulars or who I've spoken to for a while. Since my indie prices are lower because there's no cut, I feel that offering them that discount is showing my gratitude for their continued support. My regulars are my bread and butter. Without them camming would drive me nuts. I generally meet these guys on forums or networking sites and build rapport with them.
    -I charge $3.89/min on SM and generally no less that $3.50/min anywhere else. Due to the site's cut, I only get about $1.25 a min which is poop but it's frequent and keeps things moving along. For indie shows I charge $2.50 a minute but I mention that if they purchase a large block of time, I tend to lower the rate and in some cases have done shows on skype/yahoo for $2/min. So, if you look at it, I'm still making more than I would off of streammate because I'm not splitting it.
    -Years ago, when I only cammed independently, I used paypal and did it infrequently. Now that's a horrible idea. So what I've done and maybe this is only pseudo-indie is I sell shows on extralunchmoney that I will do through skype/yahoo. I sell them in 10, 15, 30 minute blocks. If guys want to haggle the price, I will tell them that we can do that but they cant' use their cam or mic, or I may not even use audio. In some cases guys are ok with having a silent show and I don't mind $2/min for that since it takes me longer to type than talk.
    -Another idea for guys trying to haggle is don't let them go lower, but add some bonuses to the show. I create content all the time to have around that's either real kinky stuff or some simple strip tease, masturbation videos. So, if a guy tries haggling you say you will throw in a free video or something.

    I totally think that girls who work hard and do great shows deserve the money for it. We are providing a great service to customers that is unique and tailored to their interests. That's why I only tend to offer indie shows to regulars who know I'm worth it and when they have these shows, I ask that they post somewhere or even write about the amazing experience that they had. So...not only do I have proof that I'm worth it, I have testimonials from guys that I can use to promote myself with.

    Long post, yes...but I think it's got some good information in there.

    Oh btw, doing just indie probably won't work unless you have a ton of trustworthy regulars or some kind of cult following. If you want to try and build that, get on forums and interact with potentials. It takes some time and effort but in the meantime, cam on a camsite and start balancing out the shows if you can. I used to do 2 indie shows (these are always long shows, like 20-30 minutes which run at least $50-$70 a piece) and then cam a bit on a site and could be comfortable with that AND have time left over.

    Btw, where are you advertising your indie shows? You can PM me this info if you feel comfortable with that.
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    Default Re: What girls here do camming independently?

    I have a question for the indie girls- do you all let the guy enable his sound/video? do you ALWAYS cam with sound? just curious. i would hate it if i had to hear and look at the guy every show. i know i am acting like a princess when i say that. lol

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