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    Question Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    Do you charge the client extra for parking? Especially if his hotel is downtown where it costs 20ish dollars to park.

    Is it tacky if I add something like this on my profile: "Kindly add $20 for parking if I am coming to see you at your hotel." I charge 400 hourly btw.

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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    I'm not an escort, but I would assume no. I think it looks tacky as hell.

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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    You're right I suppose. Guess I'm out 20 dollars at certain appointments.

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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    I've never charged extra for parking, but most of the appointments I've done have been at hotels that had valet parking. Maybe about half (of the few appts I've done so far lol), at the end the guy has said something like, "oh here's this for your valet" and given me extra $ at the end. I think it probably is tacky to add it on, it sucks though. I thought that last week when I had to pay about $20 in tolls driving to an appointment.
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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    I can honestly say...I think Ive only had to pay out of pocket for parking maybe 2 or 3 times...maybe? And thats before I got slick lol

    Heres what I do...before I arrive, I ask what the parking situation is and how much it will be...even if I know, I still ask. That way, when he gets the information, someone is telling him its x-amount for valet or self-parking. Its in his head now that its going to cost me money. Most times, when they get back to me, they let me know that info and tell me they will cover the cost. 99% of the time, thats how it goes.

    If they dont volunteer to cover the cost and theres valet parking, I then say...oooh okay great, so I just give them your room number when I valet? At that point, they either say yes and tell me what number to give them, or they tell me they will give me the money to cover it. If its self parking, I dont say anything, but when its time for me to leave, I rummage through my purse "oh let me find my parking ticket so I have it ready, Ive got to pay....(trailing into silence)" usually they will either tip me extra or give me parking money at that point.

    I would never add it as an additional fee or ask them to pay for parking.
    But I will make them feel like my ultra generous date who graciously covered the cost for me.

    Ohh about tolls, a guy who gave me directions to his place let me know that there would be tolls along the way for the route he gave me...and he offered to pay the tolls for it. He was not so generous though, not only did he try to talk me into lowering my rate for him (what if I become a regular and see you like..once a month! would you drop your fee by like...half?) but he calculated exactly how much the toll would be, and gave me that exact amount. Nothing say yay like getting exactly $6. He sat there and counted out every dollar bill and handed it to me with a huge smile. I dont see him anymore lol
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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    ^Those are pretty good tips, thanks!

    I was supposed to see a client tomorrow and I texted him: may I please use valet parking under your name? At first he told me to park at a nearby garage because he didn't want it showing up on his bill, then texted me saying I could park it, in the next text he said his atm gave him 20 dollars less than my fee and if I was ok with it. At that point I decided I wasn't going to see him, so I didn't reply. Then he sent me an email saying he doesn't like to barter but paying for my parking costs him extra 20 dollars, and because of that I should charge him 20 dollars less, and that he was going to make this a long-term thing. Then he texted me asking if we were on for tomorrow. I'm not going to reply. I wonder if I could've handled it better.

    I've asked another client to use his name for valet parking and he said sure no problem. I kinda assumed most men wouldn't have an issue with it, guess I was wrong.

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    ^^ I think you handled it pretty well. You asked politely and if he wasn't ok with it, he should have just left it at "I don't want it on my bill, sorry", rather than trying to be weird and lie about an atm not working and then arguing with you over the $20. I maybe would have got in touch with him once more to say that I'd handle my own parking and that your compensation would remain the same. But if he was so set on arguing over $20, he probably wouldn't have been a good client in the long run anyway. He sounds like the type like BlkSharpie mentioned, that sees you a couple of times and then expects a huge discount because "now we're friends and all" or some shiz.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monisha View Post
    Then he texted me asking if we were on for tomorrow. I'm not going to reply. I wonder if I could've handled it better.
    Well you could've replied and told him you were canceling. While it's lame of him to try and cut a deal, it doesn't seem like you indicated that to him, so you're basically just flaking on the appointment.

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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    Hey!

    This isn't about parking but I didnt want to bring up an old thread or a new one. Do you pay your ads with a personal CC or pre paid. The pre paid seems like a lot of work and Ive only done one ad so far as a test.

    Thanks.

    Did search the forums, have read a ton and never saw much on this.

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    ^^ Yup totally unrelated!

    But I just paid for mine with my own debit card, albeit one that I have set aside purely for business expenses to make things easier come tax-time. The pre-paid route seemed complicated and to take longer, and honestly, I feel like if you're advertising with somewhere reputable, your information is pretty safe. Plenty of places ask for some kind of ID to post ads anyway so you're not hiding much by going the pre-paid route. And if you're wording your ads right then you're not offering anything illegal, so I wouldn't think you'd be at risk from LE (the only people who I'd worry could get to the actual credit card numbers etc)


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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    Ya, sorry!! Makes sense, but I know your supposed to cover your phones billing info and stuff. Just thought it might go as far as ads. Thanks!

    I will look into a seperate card for expenses as that makes a lot of sense. Is it a personal one or did you set up an LLC?

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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    I think covering your phone info is a good idea because there's a lot of creepy sites out there that show who a phone is registered to and stuff; I just got a pre-paid one for that. But reputable companies like Eros actually have to abide by financial privacy laws and things so I imagine they'd keep it private for their own best interests. I just set up a second checking account for my business stuff... in the future an LLC might be an option but i don't think I'm ready for all that yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_McKenna View Post
    ^^ I think you handled it pretty well. You asked politely and if he wasn't ok with it, he should have just left it at "I don't want it on my bill, sorry", rather than trying to be weird and lie about an atm not working and then arguing with you over the $20. I maybe would have got in touch with him once more to say that I'd handle my own parking and that your compensation would remain the same. But if he was so set on arguing over $20, he probably wouldn't have been a good client in the long run anyway. He sounds like the type like BlkSharpie mentioned, that sees you a couple of times and then expects a huge discount because "now we're friends and all" or some shiz.
    Yeah he seemed pretty difficult, so I thought it was better to not see him.. Ugh I had the misfortune of running into a discount guy too, after a few overnight dates he decided to give me 400 for an OVERNIGHT because according to him, I LIKED spending time with him and wanted a relationship with him, so he shouldn't have to pay anymore. Fucking rat.

    Quote Originally Posted by shanna dior View Post
    Well you could've replied and told him you were canceling. While it's lame of him to try and cut a deal, it doesn't seem like you indicated that to him, so you're basically just flaking on the appointment.
    Yes I probably should have but judging by his behavior I expected him to react aggressively and didn't want to deal with him anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monisha View Post
    after a few overnight dates he decided to give me 400 for an OVERNIGHT because according to him, I LIKED spending time with him and wanted a relationship with him, so he shouldn't have to pay anymore.
    Ugh WTF is up with those kinds of guys?? We act like we like them because of them paying us, the two go hand in hand. Waiters at restaurants are happy to bring your food to you with a smile, but it's because you pay them at the end. Would these guys expect them to go to their house and serve them for free once they get a chat going?? It's just like in the club, when guys think that once you (seem to) like them, you should sit with them all night for free. I always wanna be like "Sure!! And tomorrow I'll come to your office and we can hang out when you should be working, I'm sure your boss won't mind. And maybe you could do a bunch of accounting or whatever for me while I chill. I don't have to pay you for losing your paycheck all day, coz we're cool, right?".

    $400 for an overnight, guys are such dumbasses.


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    generally you charge a transportation fee or you include the transportation fee in your outcall rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monisha View Post
    Yeah he seemed pretty difficult, so I thought it was better to not see him.. Ugh I had the misfortune of running into a discount guy too, after a few overnight dates he decided to give me 400 for an OVERNIGHT because according to him, I LIKED spending time with him and wanted a relationship with him, so he shouldn't have to pay anymore. Fucking rat.



    Yes I probably should have but judging by his behavior I expected him to react aggressively and didn't want to deal with him anymore.
    I woudlnt have agreed to see him either, but regardless of how you think a guy is going to respond or the circumstances, its good business to cancel if you are not going to make a date that you agreed on. He can do whatever he wants...just block him if he gets out of hand...but at least do you part to be professional. NCNS is just as unacceptable from an escort as it is from a client.

    In my head, if I make a date, Im going to be there unless theres a major emergency...I had a guy cancel on me the day of even though we set the date, and confirmed I would be there a couple days before. He called me the night before but I was busy, the next morning when I went to call him for our date that nite, he said he figured I was NCNSing him since I didnt get back to him the night before and set a date with someone else. That made me pretty upset, and I let him know I would not just leave anyone hanging like that. He apologzed, said he would cancel the other date to see me and I said no, that wouldnt be fair to cancel her too. He kept our next date and he let me know he only did that because girls are always leaving him hanging, so if a girl doesnt respond to him, he assumes shes flaking out, but after realizing he missed our date for no reason, he will not treat me like that again, and he gave me a tip for the trouble hed caused. So yeah, you doing that affects other girls who arent like that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    generally you charge a transportation fee or you include the transportation fee in your outcall rate.
    Yeah, I would sooner raise my rate by $20 to cover incidentals, than charge extra, but I do see the transportation fee thing a lot...a friend of mine does that depending on the distance. I dont like tacking on additional fees, but I will set hourly minimums. Instead of charging a fee for that though, I just say, if its this area an hr away,2hr min, if its this other area 2hrs away, 3hr min, 3hr plus away is a clock-free/overnight min. I figure all that balances out across all my dates for any gas, tolls an parking fees Id ever have to pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monisha View Post
    ^Those are pretty good tips, thanks!

    I was supposed to see a client tomorrow and I texted him: may I please use valet parking under your name? At first he told me to park at a nearby garage because he didn't want it showing up on his bill, then texted me saying I could park it, in the next text he said his atm gave him 20 dollars less than my fee and if I was ok with it. At that point I decided I wasn't going to see him, so I didn't reply. Then he sent me an email saying he doesn't like to barter but paying for my parking costs him extra 20 dollars, and because of that I should charge him 20 dollars less, and that he was going to make this a long-term thing. Then he texted me asking if we were on for tomorrow. I'm not going to reply. I wonder if I could've handled it better.

    I've asked another client to use his name for valet parking and he said sure no problem. I kinda assumed most men wouldn't have an issue with it, guess I was wrong.
    Haggling over $20 is pretty lame of him....the garage thing jeez. I havnt dealt with this in awhile, but when I did, if a guy started complaining over ATM problems or that hes short "is it okay if I just give you xx" or any other kind of nonsense, I dont even address that. I just offer up fake sympathy "oh I know how those atms can be...I hope you get it all worked out and we can see each other soon." Combined with his haggling and all that lameness, I would just not be available to set any dates with him anymore. Too many easy going guys out there to deal with someone like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guymodel View Post
    Hey!

    This isn't about parking but I didnt want to bring up an old thread or a new one. Do you pay your ads with a personal CC or pre paid. The pre paid seems like a lot of work and Ive only done one ad so far as a test.

    Thanks.

    Did search the forums, have read a ton and never saw much on this.
    Nothing at all wrong with starting a new topic instead of hijacking someones thread with an unrelated question.
    But yeah, personally I pay for ads with a prepaid.
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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    I hate guys who try to hook you with the long term regular crap- carrot on a stick mentality - it just pisses me off - maybe i'm just old and bitchy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monisha View Post
    Do you charge the client extra for parking? Especially if his hotel is downtown where it costs 20ish dollars to park.

    Is it tacky if I add something like this on my profile: "Kindly add $20 for parking if I am coming to see you at your hotel." I charge 400 hourly btw.
    Omg this is ridiculous! No. No. No! You're supposed to think about this when determining your rate.
    You never upsell a client - EVER. This is the first time I've heard of this and I think it's ridiculous.
    Honey you make $400 an hour -- $20 should be no problem.

    And if I'm staying at a nice hotel were the parking fee is $20 - He pays. it doesn't come out of my donation. A gentleman will understand.

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    Wow.

    Quibbling over $20 for parking is ridiculous and it makes YOU look cheap and classless - Quite the opposite of what a man expects from a $400+/hour lady. Clients expect a certain level of decorum from ladies in the $400/hr-up price range. They aren't paying $400/hour for the fantasy of a lady who is too broke to pay for parking. You ruin the fantasy of being a "hot, elite, dream girl - who has it all together" by begging parking money. You also rob him of his "gentleman fantasy" of "offering to take care of things". By asking, you show that you are assuming he won't take care of it.

    Either the gentleman will offer to pay without you having to ask, or he won't. He knows it costs to park. Making an issue of it indicates you aren't actually an "upscale" companion at all.

    Not showing up for a set appointment (and not telling the client you're cancelling) is BAD. Not showing up for an appointment (or giving him the respect of cancelling) over $20 parking is ABSURD. YOU started this "nickel & diming" by adding to his agreed-upon cost ($20 extra for parking) and now you're saying HE's being "difficult" by wanting the cost included in your fee?

    That $20 for parking is a cost of doing business. It's part of YOUR overhead and should be included in your rate. IF the gentleman offers to pay it, it's a bonus. Charge $50 extra for outcalls and include all such incidentals (tolls, gas, parking) in your fee so clients don't get angry (like this) when you start tacking on various fees (that should be included).

    This may sound harsh, but you'd get more sympathy on this topic if your rate was $200/hour or under. Clients expect ladies to have their shit together at $400+.

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    Wow thats harsh! I agree though lol!

    But in all fairness, I didnt get the drift that she quibbled over anything, no one can know for sure except the two in the convo, but I know I have had convos where a guy has ran himself into a tizzy before Ive even had a chance to respond to the first point he brought up lol

    Anyway, from how the convo goes as she described, she asked if she can put the valet under his name. Not terribly wrong, but for one Im know sales, and for two, I used to being treated a certain way, so just like in my example, I dont ask, I confirm: "So when I valet, I just give them your room number right?" 99% of the time, the guy says yes and gives me his rm # or If he doesnt want it on his bill, he'll let me know he'll give me the cost.

    After that he told her to park in a garage across the street, and then told her he was having ATM problems and if shes okay with being paid less than her FEE, that has nothing to do with parking. And yeah, I have to say...I will not tolerate a guy asking me if he can pay less than my fee...thats not quibbling, its getting what I require. Giving a discount, no matter how small and no matter the reason is a slippery slope. I always "sympathize" with his financial problem, technical problem, whatever, and tell the guy that I would love to see him when he can pay my rate. Most times, magically he comes up with what he was short so that we can keep our date. Others, I have never heard from again. Its all about getting a deal and being the guy who can pay less. And yeah, I will turn down a date for less money, to send the message I am worth the rate I set. Logically speaking, at $400/hr, a girl will not be under financial pressure to be okay with being paid less, she can afford to stand her ground and only see the guys who do have the full fee.

    NCNS for any reason is unprofessional. Ive only once had to cancel/reschedule a date because as I was about to leave as my date which was in an hour, a friend of mine went into the hospital. Thankfully it was a reg and he knew I wasnt making excuses or anything. The rest of the time, it was 100% because of something the guy said or did. The second I know that I will not meet him, I let him know.

    Hilarious moment, I did one time tell a guy that I would not be able to make a date, and I even said (as I usually do) I just wanted to let you know as far ahead of time as possible so that you may have time to see someone else and still have a wonderful evening. Even if a guy is a heinous jerk, I always try to leave everything on a good note. Well, I did that to a guy on my local board, and he wrote an angry little post saying I NCNS him. There was a bit of uproar til I said, how can that be? I called and told you that I would not be able to see you. His response...oh well, you didnt confirm that you werent going to see me and I waited for 2 hours!!" My response...you mean after I tell you I will not be able to make our date, I have to call you back again to confirm I will not make our date? He was admient thats how I should have done it and I NCNS him. Someone popped in and requested the thread be deleted cause they couldnt stand seeing NCNS and my name in the subject line And that was the end of that. Better that the guy looks like a foolish jerk than that we do. Always be professional and do the right thing. Always.
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    Default Re: Escorts: do you charge the client extra for parking?

    I can't believe people make these things rocket science... it's really not. I mean -- REALLY.

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    I agree I should've called to cancel, will keep it in mind for future dates. I was driving almost 2 hours to see him though, and he knew this.

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