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    Question Escorts: Cross-marketing?

    An escort that I met on here who has given me some great advice on getting started suggested cross-marketing as a major technique that she attributes to her success. By this I mean, having two 'personalities" kept separate, so that you can reach two different escorting markets; one as an expensive, high-class exclusive escort, and the other as a mid-range priced, more standard escort.(whatever "standard" means). That way, especially if you're in an expensive city like NYC or LA, you can reach the guys who look for escorts most men couldn't afford, while having separate persona that caters to the more average guys. For example, one persona is very selective with clients, emphasizes her intellect and class, and charges $700/hr, while the other person is more sexy girl-next-door, appealing to blue collar guys and charging $300/hr.

    I'm just starting out so I don't think I could handle two persona's with separate ads/pictures at once, but the idea is really intriguing to me. I'm sure there are less men able to afford $800/hr than $300/hr, but obviously you can't switch your rates up based on who's asking. This method allows someone to book the more expensive clients that are interested, but after that she also fill appointments with lower rate guys to make more money, and neither is aware she also advertises as a different girl with a different price.

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    I'll put it this way:

    I know a few ladies that will frown on this and say it's deceiving but what is the main reason why you became an escort?
    Is it to please the ladies or to make money? I know a few high end girls that have done this and I can even send you their website links via pm to show you the two. Mckenna, at the end of the day - it is smart marketing. There was a thread about this on a board I frequent (an escort/hobbyist board) and the guys all pretty much said "Hey more power to her if she's able to pull in $1000 an hour." Some guys were even impressed that ladies possessed the skill to market themselves to an even more affluent clientele. One guy even said he would search and search until he could find the other persona to get the lower rate - lol. The trick to doing this successfully is not linking the two personas. I mean wig, different pictures, different websites..etc. Some ladies I know aren't all that bright and used the same picture they used on their low end profile -- FAIL!

    The reason why you probably don't see a lot of this is too many ladies actually care what these men think. Really? These men are CHEATING on their wife. They don't care about their wives and they sure as hell do not care about you. They're only seeing you because you are willing to sleep with them in exchange for cash. So why care? The other trick to this is not seeing the same guy you've seen with the other persona - that will be pretty much outing yourself. I'm friends with a touring lady that has one persona based in Canada and another persona based in NYC.

    If you can pull it off and keep the two personas seperate, then yes it's not a good idea. It's a genius idea ESPECIALLY if you are able to pull $800-$1,000 an hour.

    Had to add one last thing: I have a friend in New Orleans right now that's struggling to make money. She's been pretty much dead for weeks. She bought a new red wig, got one of those fake tattoos on her wrist (yes!) and she is non-stop busy.

    While I'm all for this move, I will also say that since you're just starting out - it's best for you to focus on just one persona, build your brand and go from there. If need be, you can always get creative and create another persona. I personally love the idea. It's like playing dress up all over again!
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    it would be difficult to pull off with how the review boards operate, guys who post reviews like to out girls in pretty much any aspect of what they do in their lives and in this business of escorting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    it would be difficult to pull off with how the review boards operate, guys who post reviews like to out girls in pretty much any aspect of what they do in their lives and in this business of escorting.
    Yes minnie. What I've been telling girls though is when they create a persona -- they have to become that persona. You have to act that persona out. Meaning everything that comes out of your mouth must match the persona you created. Whether it's on these public escort forums or bcd with a client. Guys will easily put two and two together and tell one of their friends and the next thing you know that friend will tell another friend and you're exposed. Sad but true in this business you cannot trust these guys especially with something like that. I have wonderful wonderful clients but there is only ONE I trust with my real name, with my personal facebook ..etc. This man has also spent A LOT of money on me throughout the years. So lesson one when trying to pull this off is : Trust no one! Not even the girls that claim to be your friend.

    The great thing about this is when one persona isn't making money that week or that month - the other persona is. For example- I think having two blonde personas would be a waste. Why not a blonde and a hot brunette? You can always play this up and laugh all the way to the bank. Oh and don't forget to pay those taxes

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaze View Post
    You could pull it off if you have separate email accounts and double checked between email accounts if a person has contacted both. Plus blurring your face makes it easier to disguise your face.
    A lot of ladies blur their faces. However, I have heard there are now softwares that can unblur them. This is what I have heard. I don't know if this is true or not. So what do I think? Use angles. You can take a sexy picture with using your hair and angles to hide your face OR chopping your head off of your pics. Always remember - discretion. You want to be super private. PLEASE ladies do not go around telling these guys your business why? It will come out! Don't fish for clients - don't ask anyone for anything unless you're "working" for the money. Keep this business and be a professional and ALWAYS be elusive and you'll be fine.

    Again if you tour consider basing your second persona in another city where you make A LOT of money at. That way the two aren't linked. Think outside of the box . Make sure that city is at least 3 hours away and no more than 6 hours away from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    it would be difficult to pull off with how the review boards operate, guys who post reviews like to out girls in pretty much any aspect of what they do in their lives and in this business of escorting.
    Seems to me that the guys who are hobbyists that live on review boards cant afford high end rates and not going to be in the same room with a woman with rates that high...only if they are super bored, or like mentioned, scouring the internet to try and find a lower rate for a girl they are interested, the two worlds would never (knowingly) meet. The guys paying less than $200, $250+, $500+ ranges are all completely different and separate markets.

    Kind of like, the guy who wants to buy an Ashton Martin is in a different circle than in the guy who is trying to buy a Toyota Corolla, and nobody is paying attention to the guy trying to buy the cheapest car on the used lot.

    Just dont out yourself using the same pics and disguise yourself well enough that no one would recognize the two personas online, use different contact information, and I think its genius to use different base cities as well. With screening, theres no way to accidentally meet the same guy under both personals. At least in theory, this set up would work very well.

    I do fine in the range Im in, but if I reach goal to get myself into better shape, I would set myself up with a high end persona immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    Seems to me that the guys who are hobbyists that live on review boards cant afford high end rates and not going to be in the same room with a woman with rates that high...only if they are super bored, or like mentioned, scouring the internet to try and find a lower rate for a girl they are interested, the two worlds would never (knowingly) meet. The guys paying less than $200, $250+, $500+ ranges are all completely different and separate markets.

    Kind of like, the guy who wants to buy an Ashton Martin is in a different circle than in the guy who is trying to buy a Toyota Corolla, and nobody is paying attention to the guy trying to buy the cheapest car on the used lot.

    Just dont out yourself using the same pics and disguise yourself well enough that no one would recognize the two personas online, use different contact information, and I think its genius to use different base cities as well. With screening, theres no way to accidentally meet the same guy under both personals. At least in theory, this set up would work very well.

    I do fine in the range Im in, but if I reach goal to get myself into better shape, I would set myself up with a high end persona immediately.
    There are many guys who go for the HDHs but also troll BP looking for girls on the low end, the diamond in the rough. Some girls are known to get frustrated when the same guy that paid their $250 rate last week pays $2500 this week to a different girl for 3-4 hours.

    Be careful, be very very careful about multiple personas IMO. It is your business decision. But girls have lost some of their high dollar clients when their alternate personalities have been discovered before. Just as some high dollar clients will easily go for a lower or middle priced lady who strikes their fancy, there are some high dollar clients who pay the high dollar rates because they know that most guys can't (it is a boost to their pride). They are paying for the low volume, upscale date. Finding out that a lady is high volume through her alternative persona will turn these guys off.

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    I love the idea, but Im not sure Id be able to follow through lol!
    Come to think of it though, there is one guy who sees me, who has mentioned another lady that he sees, and her rate is 3x mine per hr.
    The only reason he mentioned it to me is cause he said that I could easily charge way more, and that I shouldnt be nervous about raising my rates.

    Thats a first eh? lol
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    Haha ^^^^ put that guy to the test Sharpie - next time he calls tell him you took his advice and doubled your rates - I think it is a great marketing strategy - you only have X number of years in this industry ( much like an athlete ) make all you can while you can. Maybe you will lose a client or two at the upper end if you are found out but at least you made the most of it untill you were outed. Seems like some pretty good advice on strategy. Years ago the ladies had the upper hand in marketing - then came bigdoggie and other review boards and we lost our advantage in the game. The internet opened up a wider audience to market to but took away the advantage of each customers experience being unique and private.

    edited - i think the double persona is a great strategy - not doubling your rates
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    Oh I couldnt do that...would take him 2 seconds to pull up my website and see that Im lying lol
    Hes a great guy too, I wouldnt underhand him... Yeah, if do it, Id just raise up my rates for real.
    Im getting ready to go back to school and will have a crazy sched anyway, so having less dates for more money would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwolf View Post
    There are many guys who go for the HDHs but also troll BP looking for girls on the low end, the diamond in the rough. Some girls are known to get frustrated when the same guy that paid their $250 rate last week pays $2500 this week to a different girl for 3-4 hours.

    Be careful, be very very careful about multiple personas IMO. It is your business decision. But girls have lost some of their high dollar clients when their alternate personalities have been discovered before. Just as some high dollar clients will easily go for a lower or middle priced lady who strikes their fancy, there are some high dollar clients who pay the high dollar rates because they know that most guys can't (it is a boost to their pride). They are paying for the low volume, upscale date. Finding out that a lady is high volume through her alternative persona will turn these guys off.
    ............We know this. That's why we are talking about separating the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    Haha ^^^^ put that guy to the test Sharpie - next time he calls tell him you took his advice and doubled your rates - I think it is a great marketing strategy - you only have X number of years in this industry ( much like an athlete ) make all you can while you can. Maybe you will lose a client or two at the upper end if you are found out but at least you made the most of it untill you were outed. Seems like some pretty good advice on strategy. Years ago the ladies had the upper hand in marketing - then came bigdoggie and other review boards and we lost our advantage in the game. The internet opened up a wider audience to market to but took away the advantage of each customers experience being unique and private.
    I honestly don't care what the guys will think. I've said this once and I'll say it again. There is a big difference between a hobbyist and a client. A hobbyist will pay to fuck you and tell the whole internet world about it by posting a review about it. A hobbyist gossips more than a chick every will. Remember passing notes in 5th period? That is what hobbyists do. I am a firm believe that the majority of the guys that see escorts are "clients" not "hobbyist". Clients will pay to fuck you (or should I say "spend time with you" lol and go home to their wife and kids because they have a life. A client will also be the one to encourage you to have the two personas because he knows and understand that the MAIN reason you are escorting is to make money. A hobbyists (you know the guys that sees escorts and spends their every waking moment on hooker boards) will out you in a heartbeat. They spend the majority of their lives being captain save a bro for the escorting community. So be careful as Red said. As I have said there has been a poll about this on several boards where the guys have said "Oh yes more power to her if she can pull it off", "I think it's smart"..these comments came from hobbyist (because they're the main ones hanging out on these boards). Yes while they will say more power to you all day long - don't think they won't rat your ass out. That is why I have always lived by this motto being in the business : "Trust no one". Again these men are living double lives by cheating on their wives.. why can't we live triple or quadruple lives? The answer is simple: We can.

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    Maybe I am misunderstanding your post Lovely but are you again calling me clueless? I'm really not sure why since I AGREED - that "it is a great marketing strategy" - AGREED - that the advice given for strategy seemed good ie-using different cities per persona etc.... My point at the end was the change in the industry the internet made - The " Hobbyist " did not have an " arena " to gossip or share information - WE had the advantage to have triple or quadruple lives without being outed on a large scale - so Captain Save a Bro was limited on his affect before the internet - Hobbist or Client - they are BOTH customers -


    Sharpie - I was joking about raising the rates on your guy - I thought it was sweet that he thought so highly of you -

    edited - i love the captain save a bro name - that is hilarious
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    Yeah, where guys are all bent out of shape talking about girls who raise thier rates and say they have platinum pussy syndrome or something like that lol its good to come across a guy who doesnt think that way...wild!

    This whole thing isnt too big a deal though, if someone wants to raise rates or have mulitple personas and such, I think they should go for it. My cam/escort/personal personalities are all the same...I suck at keeping track of different stories Im actually surprised no cam guys have found my escort persona, and even though some clients know I do cam, they arent remotely interested in that cause they are getting the real thing.

    Im all blaaaaaaaah right now though, not so much looking at expanding as I am coasting so I can get through school and do something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    Maybe I am misunderstanding your post Lovely but are you again calling me clueless? I'm really not sure why since I AGREED - that "it is a great marketing strategy" - AGREED - that the advice given for strategy seemed good ie-using different cities per persona etc.... My point at the end was the change in the industry the internet made - The " Hobbyist " did not have an " arena " to gossip or share information - WE had the advantage to have triple or quadruple lives without being outed on a large scale - so Captain Save a Bro was limited on his affect before the internet - Hobbist or Client - they are BOTH customers -


    Sharpie - I was joking about raising the rates on your guy - I thought it was sweet that he thought so highly of you -

    edited - i love the captain save a bro name - that is hilarious
    You assume a lot. I was adding to your post and not telling YOU anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    ............We know this. That's why we are talking about separating the two.
    Not everyone knows this. This site gains new members daily who may be completely clueless about escorting and find this information really valuable. I feel like there's no such thing as us having too much information, especially in a business like this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_McKenna View Post
    Not everyone knows this. This site gains new members daily who may be completely clueless about escorting and find this information really valuable. I feel like there's no such thing as us having too much information, especially in a business like this.
    You are absolutely right.

    And let me add to my comment about hobbyist.
    Not all are bad. It's just that most of them are.
    In the escorting world, when you get a guy trying to give you
    business advice you did not ask for - RUN! These guys are nothing but trouble and
    the same that will bash you on review boards.

    On separating the persona, I got a pm last night asking about the fake tattoo comment.
    If you want to go this route, get a good fake (Good one meaning one that will last till the end of your photoshoot). However, don't get something drastic looking. We all know that guys prefer ladies without tats. When I say this is if you are tatted up, you're going to get a lot of guys that don't want to see you because of that alone. Will you get business though, of course yes! While you'll get a lot of judgemental pricks in this business, you will also get guys that love your tats and will see you for that reason alone. Will a real small tat hurt to disguise yourself? No.

    If you're in an appointment and someone ask what happened to your tattoo - just say you got it lasered of but don't you dare wear it again after you've said that.

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    No worries Lovely - I just took the clueless comment personel since we had been there before but it is all good - Yes , I agree you cannot have to much information and you did an excellent job in clarifying the difference between the two.

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