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    Question Newbie Tuesday!

    Hey Ladies,

    Today is the day that I officially dubbed, "Newbie Tuesday."

    I receive some interesting questions from Streamate newcomer's from time to time, and I will try to post them here in hopes that it may help someone out (if it isn't already on another thread anyway). The performers who are asking me these questions will remain anonymous (... I hope you don't mind me sharing!)

    So to kick it off, one that I found particularly interesting was as follows:

    "If I don't have Gold Shows, how do I make money [on Streamate]?"

    This prompted me to wonder... particularly for those who already have Gold Shows enabled on their SM profile:

    Do you think having Gold Shows is essential for a new performer to make money on SM?

    Looking forward to seeing your thoughts!

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    Default Re: Newbie Tuesday!

    I have gold shows enabled but I rarely do gold shows. I like making my money by premium and exclusive shows. I do decent with out gold shows.
    A lot of girls don't do gold shows and make awesome money.

    So no I don't think its essential to have gold shows.

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    I dont believe its essential. I believe it has everything to do with your money hustle. Wana do less work than GS will work awesome. Like less men, less entertaining ur room pvts/excl will work awesome.

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    I was very excited about the feature at first until models started selling out for a dollar or two.

    I rarely do them any more and honestly I feel this tipping for nudity/ cheap gold shows is really harming camming as a whole. I see models giving away nearly everything in free chat and begging these men for a few dollars. It's degrading and embarassing to see.

    It does seem harder to get privates some days now that it's so cheap but I still make good money with privates.


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    Getting GS enabled helped me build up more regulars so yes, it has helped. I don't do as many as I used to and I will not set them for less than a $5.00 buy-in.
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    I find I have much higher quality customers NOT doing gold shows, just privates and exclusives in CLASSIC chat.
    I wouldn't miss gold shows if Streamate got rid of them. I do them rarely, maybe once a week? if even. . as a special "treat" to some of the vanilla guys at the end of a camming shift. I kind of feel like the whole culture of the site got ruined a little since they became really popular :/, but oh well.
    I still <3 Streamate, and it is definitely still my favorite site!

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    I have them enabled, but I think I've only ever completed like 3 of them. I've used it a few other times as "presents" to regulars, but very rarely and usually when I've been really close to goal just to put me over. Plus those were not cheap shows, really just like doing a discounted block session, but a little cheaper. Other than that all I've gotten from running gold shows were demanding asshats jumping around looking for free tits. That's been my experience, since I wasn't on the site pre-GS I can't comment on the change in traffic, but I have had custies come in and see someone else ask for them and they say they hope I'm not doing them and they hate them, this is from several of my high spending regs.

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    I have GS enabled but I very rarely do them. I only ever reached goal on a few no matter what level I set the buy in at and now I am so far back on the site that I rarely have enough guys in my room to warrant even setting a GS, oh I know that setting a GS can bring traffic in, but usually the guys are looking for free flashes etc in the countdown and as soon as they realise it's not gonna happen in my room they leave. TBH (and I know I'm putting myself out there but I also know I'm speaking for a lot of the ladies on SM and here), someone needs to shake up SM big style. Come down hard on the ladies giving full on shows in free chat including insertion etc. Put a minimum cap on prices for all types of shows, I mean 0.99 p/m? Remove the feature for unregistered members to be able to view in the guest room, underage viewers can and do sit and watch especially the 'free' shows. Stop recording our shows and selling them on without paying us, allow us to be able to sell them and other content through our profiles. Maybe, just maybe, increase our % give us a bit more incentive.
    Thats just a few things I can think of that could improve SM but I'm sure there are many more and maybe some of the other ladies will add
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    I don't think it's necessary. I also don't think it's desirable. Gold shows can only work when there are relatively few going on at any one time. When there are too many gold shows happening, the guys who want them are too spread out to make high goals achievable (which is the only way gold shows = higher earnings, otherwise you are better off doing privates with multiple viewers) and also the site seems to get REALLY laggy when there are lots of gold shows happening at once - meaning that the viewers' experience of the site is compromised/reduced and they may not return!

    For a girl on 35% - a $200 goal gold show (so they are going to have to be a top girl and there will have to be lots of members in her room / few gold shows going on at that time) the show will last approx 10 mins and need around a 15 min countdown (this is what I do for a $200 goal anyway). The equation is then $70 for 25 mins online.

    In private, with just 2 viewers, at $4.99 per min, the equation is 25mins x 2viewers x $1.75(approx) = $87.30. Even if only one viewer was in, the maths would still work out the same as a $125 goal gold show.

    So, privates normally work out better. And that's with a high goal ($200) show.

    I tend to do both, but mainly because I like the 'break' that the gold show countdown offers (ie the downside with privates is that you are 'performing' for longer)
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    I know you are not able to change anything Vanessa, but you seem to have a voice at SM and maybe if you can make some of these points for us, who knows maybe changes can be made. This is not a rant at you or any one else, I just saw the opportunity to make a point.

    I knew there was more lol.

    The option of using free chat or paid chat only

    The ability/option of 'buying' your position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Missymissdemeanour View Post
    I have GS enabled but I very rarely do them. I only ever reached goal on a few no matter what level I set the buy in at and now I am so far back on the site that I rarely have enough guys in my room to warrant even setting a GS, oh I know that setting a GS can bring traffic in, but usually the guys are looking for free flashes etc in the countdown and as soon as they realise it's not gonna happen in my room they leave. TBH (and I know I'm putting myself out there but I also know I'm speaking for a lot of the ladies on SM and here), someone needs to shake up SM big style. Come down hard on the ladies giving full on shows in free chat including insertion etc. Put a minimum cap on prices for all types of shows, I mean 0.99 p/m? Remove the feature for unregistered members to be able to view in the guest room, underage viewers can and do sit and watch especially the 'free' shows. Stop recording our shows and selling them on without paying us, allow us to be able to sell them and other content through our profiles. Maybe, just maybe, increase our % give us a bit more incentive.
    Thats just a few things I can think of that could improve SM but I'm sure there are many more and maybe some of the other ladies will add
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    Quote Originally Posted by awmvanessa View Post
    Do you think having Gold Shows is essential for a new performer to make money on SM?
    I don't believe Gold Shows are essential.

    So, how do you make money on Streamate? Turn on your cam.
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    I don't think that they are essential AT ALL! Occasionally I will throw one in there if I have a lot of traffic and just generally feel like doing a show, but as a general rule, I don't do many. I still do pretty darn well!

    And I second what Shy said - how do you make money without them? Well, you do it the way that every SM model did before gold shows appeared....you turn on your cam.
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    Question Re: Newbie Tuesday!

    Hope all of you are having a great day!

    To keep the ongoing theme of Newbie Tuesday, here's the latest interesting Streamate newcomer/potential newcomer question that I have to share with you:

    "Do I have to show my face [on Streamate]?"

    I actually run into this question quite often. In my mind, it would essentially become an arduous task having to juggle interacting with customers (either via typing or talking), performing (if you're already in Paid), and keeping at an angle that doesn't capture you from the neck-up. Privacy and discretion is almost always at the forefront of many new performers' lists of questions and concerns, but at the same token, the main reason that they want to join the site is to make money...

    In turn, I ask to you all:

    Do you think that it's realistic to make money by not revealing your face on cam? Do you think showing your face is actually important to your customers in the grand scheme of things?'

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    My face is one of my main selling points so I really hope it's important to them! I tried once an angle for a day where I didn't show my face in privates (so they can get more close-up views) but they all asked to see my face too so that angle didn't work out!
    I think it is possible to make money without showing your face, I've seen some girls using masks for example, or using camera angles to hide their face. I'm certain there are many custies who like to see a nice body only, and maybe it adds to the fantasy, they can imagine any kind of face they want! I don't have any experience though in this area

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    i believe that a performer can still make some money by not showing her face but i believe that it is quite essential to do to be able to build up longterm regs. if they cannot see ur face then how can they build up a connection for you to want to keep coming back? i believe that if a performer wants to stay completely anon and also wants to make some serious cash, then they should either wear a disguise or only/limit showing her face in prvts/excl., use a diff. style of makeup and offer phone.

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    I am sure you would have to have a killer body. I know there is one model on Streamate who does really well, and she never shows her face. I believe she is a professional model, though.

    I never really understood-- if girls were so afraid of people seeing their face, why are they even choosing camming anyway? I mean, cmon, Streamate has millions of visitors a day. Most girls get found out eventually. I would just suggest to them to look into wigs, contouring makeup, and geoblocking instead. There are lots of tutorials on make-up techniques on youtube, and many places to help find a realistic wig as well.

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    I don't think i'd be able to make half as much as i do if i didn't show my face, if anything my face is what sells the most. I don't show any skin in freechat for the most part i stay completely covered and just show my face. Plus everytime i try to cover my face especially during privates/excl people ask to see my face because they like to see my facial reactions.

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    I'm digging your diverse responses! I hope these assist newbie or would-be models out there in finding a resolution to their concerns.

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    I know there used to be a lady on AW who's cam name I have forgotten but it was something to do with ugly, lol and she made it part of her thing, saying she was so ugly she could never show her face on cam etc and she was one of the top cammers at the time. I believe she is still camming but has changed her name and persona so now she shows her face. She is deffinately not ugly but very very clever. Im not sure if she would want her new persona linked to her old one so if anyone does recognise who I'm talking about can I ask that you don't put either of her camming names here in public, unless of course you are her
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    Quote Originally Posted by DollEyes View Post
    I don't think i'd be able to make half as much as i do if i didn't show my face, if anything my face is what sells the most. I don't show any skin in freechat for the most part i stay completely covered and just show my face. Plus everytime i try to cover my face especially during privates/excl people ask to see my face because they like to see my facial reactions.
    Exactly this, except I think it would be even less than half...
    Honestly, if you aren't comfortable showing your face on cam, you probably shouldn't be camming! Plus if anyone I know ever sees me online and confronts me about it I'll just act really confused and play dumb, have them explain to me what it is that they saw (Huh? What... on a cam site? What is a cam site? You mean like chatroullete? ) and then once I have them in my trap, thinking "well maybe it wasn't you after all" I'll get totally excited over the fact I have a "doppelgagner" somewhere out there! Muuuahahahahaaa. My voice changes drastically when I am on cam anyways, I don't sound at all like myself and I'm not even trying to sound different... so I think it could work =D



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    "Doppelgagner"?!?! HAHAHA!!!

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    I don't think they are essential at all. I'm not new (been on SM for 3 yrs) but I have never done a Gold Show and I haven't noticed a decrease in my earnings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peachesxo View Post
    My voice changes drastically when I am on cam anyways, I don't sound at all like myself and I'm not even trying to sound different... so I think it could work =D
    It's the sex kitten effect, haha. The only time it drops is if I get annoyed.

    The face is such a huge selling point. Expressions can tell us so many things and it's so hard to communicate effectively without it. My guys I know love being able to see my face. If I move a specific way that my face ends up off cam I get asked to come back in frame all the time.

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    I always get complimented on my eyes so I know in my case, people love to see my face. I feel that it is necessary for me to show my face but someone else could probably get away with it. The best thing to do is try it and see how it works out. I guess someone who didn't want to show their face could create a persona as a masked cam model. I'm not sure how well that would go over but it could be a possibility too!
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