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    can we just leave camming as it is please..
    why fix it if its not broken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    I also don't see an issue with the psychological boundaries of having a guy masturbate with me, as opposed to to me, which was brought up, earlier.
    It feels more uncomfortably personal to me, in the physical sense. - I'm very comfortable with the boundaries we already have, but if I were reliant and responsible for physically stimulating someone else through this new gadget, and were receiving physical stimulation from someone controlling it via the gadget, I have a new responsibility and potentially a new pain in the ass which would be the first hint towards physicality camming has ever taken.

    Its not like "real" sex or prostitution, at all. Trust me, having been a very real prostitute, nothing is like prostituting but prostituting. There is nothing I've done over the internet that I haven't done face-to-face, with a very real man, for money and I will always take the internet format, over live sex, these days. Comparing this to live sex is just silly, anyway. I would be offended by the assumption if it weren't so laughable. The entire INTERNET is like a condom, here. You are not engaging in sex with another person. Its no less a fantasy, than it was when you were using a dildo to simulate the viewer's penis.
    The reasons that this feels more of a step closer to escorting (which I have NO problem with anybody doing by the way, however I must make it clear that I would never be comfortable being an escort myself), are for the reasons I detailed in my first paragraph. As a camgirl, this would be the first step towards a more real physical interaction between client + performer, and strikes me as an added responsibility for the performer. I would be essentially become liable for a clients physical pleasure in, yes, a similar way to an escort because it is a profession by which the performer gives physical pleasure. I'm not talking about any other possible comparison between camming and escorting because if there were any other alternative to which I could compare it to aside from escorting, I would. The reason there isn't (and thus I make you laugh by jumping to escorting as a comparison despite the obvious and undoubtedly massive differences between the two... ), is because this is an innovation which brings a physical dimension to camming.

    I understand people have psychological and emotional boundaries that can't and shouldn't be crossed, in this field but this is not one of mine. I'm not afraid of demanding customers, besides, I can't imagine in the heat of the moment, they could possibly micromanage my physical responses to the toy. If they're paying attention to my body plus my words plus masturbating, they definitely can't tell. And having experienced the earning potential of a live, interactive fucking machine first-hand, I KNOW I will make more money and have more of a competitive edge by offering this to my customers.
    If this becomes big - and at this point I've absolutely no idea whether it'll literally take over the entire biz, or utterly flop - I despair to think how many girls may lose their jobs over this.

    Fantastic for the girls who want it, and, as you so beautifully and intimidatingly put it: "have more of a competitive edge".
    Dire for those who don't - and have otherwise made great money...

    I'm fine with maintaining my boundaries in terms of physical comfort and what I will and will not do for money when it comes to clients who are demanding or have requests I don't want to perform. But when my entire work outlook potentially rests on whether I do or don't adopt a completely different way of working, then yes, I admit I cannot help but start contemplating the possibility that I may end up doing this... I don't know, my mind is kind of engulfed right now.

    This has been the first time I've ever had to start thinking about the future of my work in a different way. For those to whom this is a really uncomfortably alien prospect, this is quite a scary time, so if you truly believe in the competitiveness of this new innovation, bask in it, but I'd ask you to be gentle with us lot to whom this is a potential nightmare. People don't like to feel as though their job rests on thin ice.

    Yeah, I've no idea what to think about this. My honest feelings are that I hope that if it does get implemented, it won't take off because it'll either be too expensive for clients, a pain in the ass for the performers, or just... something'll go wrong. Wishful thinking? ...Yeah.




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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    Man, your site says the Beta-Testing is full. I submitted my email. I'm extremely interested in using this product, on cam. Can I be contacted, either through this site (PM) or via email to test? Are you giving preferential beta-testing to XPeep.com models who show interest, first?

    From my experience with toys (especially interactive ones), I use them as an icing on the cake. I would wait as long as 15 mins into a show to use any sort of fucking machine or specialty toy. Trust me, they will hold out for it, if they know you've got it. Just lead into it by drawing attention to other parts of yourself or guiding them into it. Make them think they have to get you ready for it. I consider this "foreplay" of sorts but more to the extreme. Make them spend time and money to get to the experience. They'll get used it it.
    I just sent you an email. I think we may be all good on models helping us beta test but we will certainly let you know. There are certain parts of the world we would still like to test. There is preferential treatment to the girls who have helped us beta test so far but not necessarily to xPeeps models. However, we will be doing heavy marketing on xPeeps for RealTouch so it's a good idea for models to at least have a profile on xPeeps for exposure. There will also be a model directory on RealTouchInteractive

    Currently this is not pay-per-minute. You will need to set your price and agreed upon time with customer before the session.
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    Here is a demo of the device from the January AdultExpo in Vegas (Best I have at the moment) http://straight.fleshbot.com/5878161...-teledildonics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    can we just leave camming as it is please..
    why fix it if its not broken?
    Exactly what I was thinking. Why make,it more personal than it already is? Something tells me boyfriends wont b cool with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    can we just leave camming as it is please..
    why fix it if its not broken?
    No Worries. The cam business will be just fine. There will always be traditional camming. This is just something for those who wish to have more interaction and something different. Totally optional of course :-)
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    I'm not gonna lie.....this seems kinda cool. I can see myself doing this as well as regular camming. Not everyone will want to pay for one so the guys that own these will be the minority (in my opinion). I like this a lot better then the f**k machine. At least this is me controlling it and not some guy ramming my vagina to a pulp lol. I definitely wouldn't use a f**k machine

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    Honestly, I'll go back to making sandwiches for a living before I use that. It's fine to jack off to me, but my touch and tongue is reserved for my man. My actions physically affecting and stimulating a guy is way too personal for me, if I wanted that level of intimacy I'd escort.
    lol wut?


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    LOL - Heather you certainly don't have to worry about making sandwiches again... unless they are for you. This product isn't for everyone but there are many possibilities for couples in the future as well. Say your man is a truck driver or a business man who has to travel alot? Wouldn't it be cool to give him a blowjob from states away? Many soldiers are away from their wife for months ... i'm sure they would love a handjob from their wife while deployed in another country...

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    A Thousand Dildos For The Military Wives
    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2398754,00.asp
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    Maybe I missed it but where exactly are the ladies currently using this?

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    I want one of these! This seems really cool to me.

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    I think it's cool to have this option for people who want to offer this service, but I also don't think those who don't want to will ever have a problem earning just fine without it. When I was dealing with the Diltron and trying to get some of my regulars into the idea of that and the Fleshlight, they were more-so saying things like "well I'll try it out if that's what you want, but I really think interactive toys are silly and weird". There is so much variety there, I'm not concerned that i-toys will change the game, at all. Thank God.

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    Maybe 'game changer' was too nebulous. I didn't mean it would end web camming as we know it of course

    What i meant was... a potential new way to make money if you're into it. RT isn't exactly a cheap toy so at least you know the clientele aren't your typical 'bb' riff-raff ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BritishBecky View Post
    I would love love love to be able to do this for my guys. Would give sucking (and the rest!) the toy a whole new excitement!
    I sent you mail Becky. We'll get you all setup... Thanks!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    It feels more uncomfortably personal to me, in the physical sense. - I'm very comfortable with the boundaries we already have, but if I were reliant and responsible for physically stimulating someone else through this new gadget, and were receiving physical stimulation from someone controlling it via the gadget, I have a new responsibility and potentially a new pain in the ass which would be the first hint towards physicality camming has ever taken.
    I don't see why you're personalizing the exchange so much. I don't feel the same sense of responsibly that you mention, at all. Nothing's burdening me to raise the expectations of my customers just because I'm introducing a new attraction. Hell, that is the incentive to cam with me! I've already raised the bar by showing up, being hot, and featuring entirely new approaches to the experience of just looking at me! I think your internal debate about this is too involved, really. Its just not that deep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    The reasons that this feels more of a step closer to escorting (which I have NO problem with anybody doing by the way, however I must make it clear that I would never be comfortable being an escort myself), are for the reasons I detailed in my first paragraph. As a camgirl, this would be the first step towards a more real physical interaction between client + performer, and strikes me as an added responsibility for the performer. I would be essentially become liable for a clients physical pleasure in, yes, a similar way to an escort because it is a profession by which the performer gives physical pleasure.
    Man, there you go, talking about all these "responsibilities" that we supposedly have. Girl, we are just there to show up. That's it. These guys are projecting way more onto us than we have time for. I do hour-long feature shows and guys want to holler about what I should be doing. I remind them time and again, I'm doing what I say I would do: show up and be hot and naked. Whatever else they get from the time spent is on them. I don't know what you think escorting/prostitution is like but its really not all that involved, in terms of expectations. These guys show up, get what they came for and leave. I don't have any guarantees about anything, when they come in. They leave happy because I'm good and I'm good because… well, because I just am. Its not from feeling some fort of moral/tangible obligation to my clients. If you feel so obligated to preform to standards that aren't even being defined, well, that's on you, not every cam girl on the internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    I'm not talking about any other possible comparison between camming and escorting because if there were any other alternative to which I could compare it to aside from escorting, I would. The reason there isn't (and thus I make you laugh by jumping to escorting as a comparison despite the obvious and undoubtedly massive differences between the two... ), is because this is an innovation which brings a physical dimension to camming.
    Your comparison was ridiculous. That is all.



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    If this becomes big - and at this point I've absolutely no idea whether it'll literally take over the entire biz, or utterly flop - I despair to think how many girls may lose their jobs over this.

    Fantastic for the girls who want it, and, as you so beautifully and intimidatingly put it: "have more of a competitive edge".
    Dire for those who don't - and have otherwise made great money...

    I'm fine with maintaining my boundaries in terms of physical comfort and what I will and will not do for money when it comes to clients who are demanding or have requests I don't want to perform. But when my entire work outlook potentially rests on whether I do or don't adopt a completely different way of working, then yes, I admit I cannot help but start contemplating the possibility that I may end up doing this... I don't know, my mind is kind of engulfed right now.

    This has been the first time I've ever had to start thinking about the future of my work in a different way. For those to whom this is a really uncomfortably alien prospect, this is quite a scary time, so if you truly believe in the competitiveness of this new innovation, bask in it, but I'd ask you to be gentle with us lot to whom this is a potential nightmare. People don't like to feel as though their job rests on thin ice.
    Good. Think hard about it. Think about how you're going to maintain your boundaries as well as step your own game up. I was good without interactive technology but now my services are damn-near addictive, to my clients. When I find out about this stuff, i literally line guys up to buy the products (which I make money in affiliate sales), build the accounts (also bringing me residuals), and buy as much time as I deem appropriate to indoctrinate them into consistent usage. The workers who don't adopt this stuff because of taking some faux moral high-ground are going to have to be damn good when there are those of us willing to try anything and everything to increase our profits, as the years go on. We play to win. Good luck.
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    For me this goes too far. For some, this may seem like a spectacular idea. The only appealing part about this, to me, is control and I can already accomplish that through Domme style shows and specific sorts of methods I instruct the customer to do. If a guy REALLY wanted this with me...I'd make him buy it and bring CBT to a whole other level.

    My husband is already bothered a bit that I cam, this would not help the situation at all. What scares me is the fact that myself and other girls who prefer there be that physical boundary may start to have guys lose interest. As it is now, I have issues on xpeeps with pulling in money because of the better known, thinner, alt models. Now I think of them with having the iDildo 5000 and I'm sitting in a room with 'Guest46435' and a cricket.

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    Can I be clear that my prostitution comment wasnt based on a subjective experience or judgment but how the law can interpret this level of interaction. http://www.dailydot.com/business/cam...oney-business/

    The profession itself lies in a legal gray area.

    Fattorosi doesn’t know of cases where individual cam girls were busted while working from their own homes. But four years ago in Miami a studio for cam boys was charged with being in a residential area.

    And given the popularity of camming and new technology on the horizon, legal issues may be on the horizon as well. Fattorosi believes that in the next five years, camming will start to get noticed in court. New technology, like a device that allows a cam girl to digitally masturbate a client, may allow cam girls to be prosecuted as prostitutes.

    “Whatever she does will register on his side of the cam. She will literally be masturbating him through the device. We’ll have legal issues trying to figure out if it’s still prostitution even if she’s not in the same room.”
    Camming is largely unregulated now, in a few years, it will probably be in and out of courts for a battery of reasons. Of course not for customers scamming girls or websites not paying us - but mega lawsuits will probably go after individual camgirls first since we're an easier and faster political target for anti-porn crusaders (taxes, 2257 compliance, and working out of residential areas probably first). Clips4sale already set the precedent, Id probably add this to an eventuality. Since we work as indie contractors for this site, we are liable for what we do and do not offer.

    Robotics are the way of the future, makes sense the sex industry is all over it as well - but personally i made a decision afew years ago to opt out of extra-sensory technology for the possible legal implications. If I lived... anywhere where sex work is decriminalized Id do it - but i only cam bc other forms of sex work that I was previously financially sustained by could land me in jail so reverting back feels silly given the wide gulf of a income difference between camming and other forms of sex work (ime). it doesnt justify the risk of engagement, might as well not tiptoe around the edges of the law and just re-enter the underground economy where Id get closer to 100% of the profits instead of an average of 50% . It really is a cost/benefit analysis for me. If you live in a residential area filled with nosy people and in an area where sex work is prosecuted and sought after like crazy - you may want to keep this in mind.

    Like how you personally define prostitution does not matter - it is how the law defines it and how much of a priority it is where you live. I mean most areas where sex work is not decriminalized the definition of what counts is extremely vague. It is mainly a know your enemy and harm reduction thing for me.

    Regardless, itd take years for this to be normalized.... I mean, come on, many customers still dont even have audio, microphones and cams for fuck's sake - let alone a USB masturbator. The diltron is still advertised as being the wave of the future but has been dead for what years now.

    This kind of thing is an inevitability of this industry but it is still a legal mindfuck.

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    I would LOVE to do this but I noticed that the shipping is only available to the US. Can we expect an international delivery option soon? Or should I just ask someone in the US to send it to me after I purchased it?
    As a matter of fact, I could think of quite a few European custies of mine who would love to buy this device, so I'd be really happy if there was an international shipping option

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivianbear View Post
    I don't see why you're personalizing the exchange so much. I don't feel the same sense of responsibly that you mention, at all. Nothing's burdening me to raise the expectations of my customers just because I'm introducing a new attraction. Hell, that is the incentive to cam with me! I've already raised the bar by showing up, being hot, and featuring entirely new approaches to the experience of just looking at me! I think your internal debate about this is too involved, really. Its just not that deep.
    Every cam girl who takes her business serious enough to want to do it long-term ups her game with new attractions. Myself included. But every different approach is subjective depending on what it is, and the boundaries each girl has, therefore this is unarguable. It's just not that deep for you; to others it may be very different.

    I'm intimidated by how wide-spread the use of this very revolutionary device may become though, putting us girls who aren't keen on the idea at any level of disadvantage. For all I know, it could become comparable in success to the Hitachi. Which is strong, but not enough to over-power the whole industry. The success of the Hitachi hasn't put me at a disadvantage for not having it, so all may still be fine with this new device.


    Man, there you go, talking about all these "responsibilities" that we supposedly have. Girl, we are just there to show up. That's it. These guys are projecting way more onto us than we have time for. I do hour-long feature shows and guys want to holler about what I should be doing. I remind them time and again, I'm doing what I say I would do: show up and be hot and naked. Whatever else they get from the time spent is on them. I don't know what you think escorting/prostitution is like but its really not all that involved, in terms of expectations. These guys show up, get what they came for and leave. I don't have any guarantees about anything, when they come in. They leave happy because I'm good and I'm good because… well, because I just am. Its not from feeling some fort of moral/tangible obligation to my clients. If you feel so obligated to preform to standards that aren't even being defined, well, that's on you, not every cam girl on the internet.
    I enjoy taking my work seriously and having a responsibility to my clients to give them a good time, and to myself to earn well.
    The more I invest in my clients, the more I'll earn - the same as you and everyone else. I don't just show up, look hot and get naked. I am attentive the needs of clients enough so that they remember me, come back, and keep my rating as a very solid 5 stars.

    One of the many reasons I would be uncomfortable escorting is because I have a partner. And one of the reasons I would feel uncomfortable giving physical stimulus to people elsewhere is partly because I have a partner. So yes, it's involved enough to become much more physical than camming currently is (which is pretty much zero as it currently stands), and potentially feel threatening on another level to either those who have partners who watch cam shows, or the guys who have partners who do camming for a living.

    I feel it's insensitive of you to shrug it off like because it's not a big deal to you, and so it follows that it must not be a big deal to everyone.

    Your comparison was ridiculous. That is all.
    You can't explain why my comparison was ridiculous? I feel I gave a pretty good explanation as to why they would become more comparable to one another with the implementation of the TouchInteractive: camming would become more physical. Yes, there are many differences between camming and escorting, including many more I don't even know about given that I have never been an escort. However, you don't need to be an escort to know that physicality is involved, therefore if there were a gradient between camming and escorting, I'd use a different example. But there isn't, so I have used it.

    Good. Think hard about it. Think about how you're going to maintain your boundaries as well as step your own game up. I was good without interactive technology but now my services are damn-near addictive, to my clients. When I find out about this stuff, i literally line guys up to buy the products (which I make money in affiliate sales), build the accounts (also bringing me residuals), and buy as much time as I deem appropriate to indoctrinate them into consistent usage. The workers who don't adopt this stuff because of taking some faux moral high-ground are going to have to be damn good when there are those of us willing to try anything and everything to increase our profits, as the years go on. We play to win. Good luck.
    What are you talking about?

    There. Is. No. Moral. High. Ground.

    Absolutely NONE. I don't look at you and think you're lower than me for wanting this gadget. I don't think less of you for having done escort work. Christ. Can you not see that pretty much every response from me in this thread has been pretty much going by the theme that it pretty much scares me because I do not know how widespread it's usage and popularity might be?

    This isn't about you, this isn't about proving yourself, or reiterating the quality / addictiveness of your shows. The least difficult thing to grasp about this innovation is that certain people will harness this innovation to their advantage, which is kind of the whole point as to why it intimidates me so much, capice?

    But faux moral high ground? None exists. And "The workers who don't adopt this stuff because of taking some faux moral high-ground are going to have to be damn good when there are those of us willing to try anything and everything to increase our profits, as the years go on"? - Is repugnant, spiteful and unnecessary.

    I've aired my thoughts and concerns of how this innovation will affect my business, therefore you rush to smear my face in it. Is it because you didn't understand or like my escort - camming link so it made you defensive? I can't think of any other reason as to why you'd respond with such a chip on your shoulder. Thanks, fellow colleague. You've done yourself proud there.
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    Nowhere yet. RealTouch has been working with adult videos for a few years now but the live application has been under testing and development for some time. We are finally nearly ready to unleash it http://www.realtouchinteractive.com
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    good god! why does everything turn into a debate! i swear our periods must synchronize even virtually LOL JK
    i wasnt even gonna comment on this, but cmon ladies! lets just leave at the fact the some like it some dont, some think its closer to prostitution and some dont. its simple, just respect everybodies point of views and dont try to change them. if you dont like the this "new" ineractive toy, simple, dont buy it dont offer it to your customers.
    trust me this will not have an impact on your earnings if you dont offer it, there will always be customers that like the traditional camming way, or that dont want the experience to be that real (because he may feel pressured to please you interactively with the toy) or cause they may have the same views in terms of thinking its similar to prostitution like some of you do, or just simply cause they wont be able to afford it.
    this toy is just gravy for those that are interested, but it wont change the camming industry at least not yet, it is not the first interactive toy after all.
    SW is a place to share experiences, advice, to vent, to express your self. but not to try to change peoples ideas or point of views, especially not this thread in particular this one is just for "we offering it, your interested? yes, no, ok" simple
    pls dont try to make my comment into a debate either, im just trying to get you guys to just leave peoples opinions as they are, and keep SW a cool place to hang out

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    Most every industry experiences change and growth through new ideas and technology. Horse and buggy to cars - Trains to airplanes - typewriters to computers - Bell South /home phones to cell phones - Kodiak film to digital pics - escorting/porn to camming etc.....You grow , adapt , or die off. In my opinion this device will be a great addition for a segment of the market but will not replace traditional camming. In 10 years even newer technology that we havent even thought of may become the new norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudiaReina View Post
    I would LOVE to do this but I noticed that the shipping is only available to the US. Can we expect an international delivery option soon? Or should I just ask someone in the US to send it to me after I purchased it?
    As a matter of fact, I could think of quite a few European custies of mine who would love to buy this device, so I'd be really happy if there was an international shipping option
    Yes you can. We're very close and will be international soon
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    They are still calling it teledildonics after all these years? (The name was first used in 1975)

    I have always hated the name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    Most every industry experiences change and growth through new ideas and technology.
    The thing is the idea and basic technology is far from being new. It has also pretty much flopped every time it was introduced in the past.

    That being said, you never know. Some ideas take time for society to grown into.

    (The development of video game accessories was pretty much stalled for 13 YEARS before the Wii came along and kicked everyone's ass into gear.
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