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I'd do that, but only because I want to see a man with money in his ass. Seriously though, I have known women who did quit jobs like dancing because the guy promised to take care of her, only to find herself alone. If they weren't married and then he dumped her there isn't a thing she can do. Unless they had kids she would get child support but nothing else. Plus, let's be honest and talk about how dancers and rich guys can be a fleeting thing where the rich guy gets tired of her, especially as she ages. I had a few possibile opportunities and turned it down because it is a huge gamble. Not to mention being controlled by a man. No thanks, I would rather make this money than being under the thumb of a man like that.





Been there, done that. After a relationship with a much older guy and we lived together for 5 years, he started making jokes that he was going to have to trade me in soon cause I was getting close to 30 (I was about 28 at the time he started saying that...and sure enough he did so by the time we broke up and I was 29) But the one thing I will never, ever forget, is when we were having an argument and I started to say "But i though that..." and he cut me off saying he does not pay me to think.
Never again.
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Here you really touched on something I've been thinking throughout this whole thread (which has turned into a really cool discussion, so I'm glad as well that it wasn't closed)
In reading the wicked responses from people here, both blue and pink, who value female independence, this thread got me thinking about the types of guys who would want to be a sole earner.
Particularly in an era where entire job sectors can alter dramatically (ie: real estate, which was mentioned earlier), it's wise to have two parties in the workforce on some level. Jobs disappear all the time and income brackets can change.
As such, I would be really leery of a man who wanted to support me...like y'all have discussed money is power to a certain extent, and the type of man who would want that power wouldn't be the type of man in whom I'd feel comfortable trusting my security, both emotional and financial. The motive behind encouraging that sort of dependence would be a huge warning bell for me.
If I was with a man who desired that sort of 'traditional'relationship, I'd wonder what other ideas he was holding onto as well regarding my place in our relationship.





IMO, being a dancer makes it HARDER to date. I haven't had a BF since i've been dancing for four years straight. People forget we're human beings, & not living ageless Barbie dolls. Hard to find genuine men who love you unconditionally down the road. Not saying they don't exist & all men suck(I don't think all men suck), just makes shit more challening in my experiece anyway. BUT at least we know how to weed losers & bullshitters out faster than your average chic.
Anyway, as for being taken care of financially. I don't see a problem with it, just be damn sure of the intentions. It's great to have a SO that will support you on whatever you decide on what you want to do.





My DH makes a good salary. I still want to make my own cash though.





I think some men want to be the sole or main provider or the main one if there are kids involved, especially babies. While not sure I would be open to this, I look at it much differently with the guys who never want their wives to work. Of course these are a bit different than those guys who want their hot girlfriend to stay at home and wait on them hand and foot. The guys who do this last one (especially without marriage)seem to be control freaks. I think it's very important for a woman to be financially independent because nothing is a sure thing,






And on another note. I used to be roomies with my best friend from high school. We were both in university and close to finishing our degrees when she gave it all up to move in with her boyfriend who is a doctor. Long story short she and I lost contact for a couple of years....we recently reconnected and she told me that she is desperate to leave her doctor boyfriend (yes he is still her "boyfriend" after 6 or 7 years and two kids together) but every time she's tried to leave him he takes away her car keys and bank card and reminds her how he's the only one with the money to hire a good lawyer in a custody hearing.
So, yeah, I'm pretty happy to be an independent woman. I want a partner and equal in life anyways, not someone who takes care of me. With financial independence comes freedom, options and self-esteem....3 things I value very highly.
Vyanka, in the last paragraph you have written exactly what my feelings about this topic are. As you said, the intentions are important. If the man feels jealous or intimidated by his wife earning more than him, I feel sorry for him.
However, I also find it hard to understand why it is considered a bad thing if the wife is not working and the husband is the sole provider in the famliy, provided it is a mutual decision. My mother left her very well paying teaching job when she married and assumed the role of a home maker. She is a great mother and today, me and my father both owe our successes to her. She was not earning any money but was playing a far more important role in our family that can not be substituted by any amount of money.





It's not bad if she does this while married and a mother. That way if something happens she is covered. However not being married doesn't give any protection. Many friends of mine got married after having powerful jobs, and stayed home for a few years while living off their savings. I see nothing wrong with this at all because they have money to support them if something happens.



LOL - he actually said that?! That's an over-used movie line! In fact, I bet he heard the line, idolized that character in that scene, and had been hoping for the day he could use it. I'm dead serious - I work with these types all the time. This type of guy's past includes (usually, not always) being the unpopular kid who wanted so badly to fit in, but just couldn't. So he grew up and made a shit-ton of money, thinking that will give him power, respect and the elusive "cool." Only now, he overcompensates by flashing cash and saying memorized movie lines that make him feel like the powerful "ideal man." Lines like, "I don't pay you to think." The reason: inside, he's still that unpopular kid trying to belong.
Yes, steer clear - that type of guy is a child in a grown man's body who uses his toys to control others.





His exact words...Ill never forget it. Wish I knew, I totally would have called him out on it that second if I knew it was a line from a movie!! But yeah, you summed things up nicely. I mean, I wouldnt have spent so many years with him if he wasnt a great guy...he was. But in the end, he started saying some pretty cruel things, but instead of breaking me down, it pissed me off, and I didnt care how much money he had, he crossed the line, and I immediately put kiddo in the car and left. Realized I had no moneyI mean, like just enough to stay in a hotel for a couple of nights, so he agreed to leave town, I went back home and prepared for my move out.
Those last few months were brutal though, I mean, I guess he reached a point where he thought he could say any and everything and I would have to stay cause he provided for me...but you've gotta be careful trying that with women who grew up poor, homeless and hungry... when you know what its like to have nothing, you arent so afraid of losing everything you have.
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I went and did a simple search on google to see what the "average" annual salary was of an American in 2012. What I found sort of reaffirms what I thought was correct, and that is generally, the pool for those earning $140,000 a year (as posted in this thread) is rather small and is shrinking.
Below is an outline, but in 2012, LESS THAN 1 in 10 people made an average of $166,000 a year in the US. Now, you have to factor in which of the 2 genders is representative of that "ONE" out of "TEN" is pulling in $166,000?????? Personally, I strongly believe it is women. Why? Because we're moving from a manufacturing economy to a service based one which is ruled by women. Although the "bosses" in the service based industry are men, these men are getting older, will retire, and will be replaced by women bosses. The office-place has been termed "Pink Ghetto's" for this very reason. It will happen!
The MAJORITY of American's in 2012 were pulling is $47,000 a year.
I'm getting a very strong feeling that a lot of the people out there who are touting they make over $100,000, really aren't. If anything, most of them are more likely in debt over $100,000 which is why the economy crashed and is still hurting and will continue hurting for at least 5 more years.
What I would like to know is where are those people living that are making over $100,000 a year? Chances are, they live and work in big cities like New York, Chicago, etc etc. Typically, the standard of living in these cities are so high, that at $166,000 a year you're breaking even after paying rent/mortgage, paying for your car, parking, eating out, taxes, etc etc.
Average Salary and Economy
Average annual income in United States is around 47,000 USD, according to 2011/2012 salary survey.
Statistics shows that 50 percent of population live on $46,000 or less a year. Top 35% of highest salaries in the United States, starting with $65,000 are represented below from MyBudget survey.
•Top 0.12% of people in US earn $1,600,000/year or more
•Top 1.15% of people in US earn $250,000/year or more
•Top 3% of people in US earn $200,000/year or more
•Top 5% of people in US earn $166,000/year or more
•Top 10% of people in US earn $118,000/year or more
•Top 15% of people in US earn $100,000/year or more
•Top 20% of people in US earn $91,000/year or more
•Top 25% of people in US earn $80,000/year or more
•Top 35% of people in US earn $65,000/year or more





According to US census, July 2011 there are 311,591,917 living in the US.
So then,
15% of that, earning $100k or more according to the stats you have, is almost 47 million people.
3% of that, earning $200k or more, is over 9 million people
Thats a lot of people... Even if the stats show that the majority of Americans make $47k/year, that doesnt really negate the fact that there is still a substantial amount of people making more than that, and if someone wants to meet someone who makes more than average wages, its not an impossible find.
Just do what I do...swear off wealthy men cause you dont want some guy using his money as leverage for power in the relationship...and every freaking guy you meet will be ridiculously wealthy. And try purposefully going after a guy who looks and lives like he doesnt have much money, only to find out he lives incredibly modestly, well below his means. Scope out guys who wear solid black walking sneakers, which always look brand new. As ridiculously stupid as that sounds, both of my ex's wore those as everyday casual shoes, and Ive noticed this with other guys Ive met too.
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I just go after men who own homes. Generally speaking if he owns a house he has a decent salary and good credit.





Not sure thats a good idea with the amount of homes in foreclosure, and people refinancing their homes several times over to survive....
Nowadays, a house is more of a liability than anything...
If a guy owned and maintained several properties though, then thats not too bad...
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True but I look at several things, like what he does for a living (and whether it can be outsourced)and his lifestyle. I've noticed in some (not all)cases if he's say 50 and still living with roommates he's probably unreliable.





Okay well thats a better clari lol! Yeah, just looking at if he owns a house isnt good but a well rounded view makes sense. I dont ask for much really, at least for a guy to be on the same level I am... no roomates/not living with the 'rents, owns a car, has a decent paying job... I dont mind if a guy rents, but if I were looking for a guy with money, then yeah Id expect hed own his own home.
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You can't go by those statistics because what the study shows is the percentage of WORKING Americans, not the total number. Minors and unemployed are not factored into it. So those numbers should be significantly less. 47 million working Americans making 100k a year or more is grossly over-estimated, don't you think? I mean come on, there are hardly more than 47 million working Americans in TOTAL!
I would say the numbers are closer to just 5 or 6 million (working) Americans who make 100k or more.





^ummmm http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pf_article_113718.html
5.94 millionaire households in the US in 2011... so I think there are a few more than 5 or 6 million making over $100K... I reckon we have at least 5 or 6 million over $100K in australia with a population of 23 million. Sure this article is including assets but I think its safe to say the chances of having over $1mil in assets and making less than $100K are not very high.

According to the latest Washington report as of December 2011, there are approx 240.5 million Americans of working age and 58.5 % of them have formal jobs (either full-time or part-time). Using those numbers would show there are approx 20,988,000 Americans who make $100k+. These figures do not indicate age or sex.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/17/wh...ing-americans/





Woah woah woah! LoL I didnt post the statistics, I was just playing along with the ones posted.
I think statistics are flawed,heck even my own lil calculation is grossly flawed...notice I said "there are 311,591,917 living in the US"
That of course includes infants, the elderly, and everyone inbetween who couldnt possibly hold a job.
In other words...I wasnt really taking it seriously.
I mean, just as people lie to inflate how much they make, the more one makes the more they will use Hollywood accounting to fudge how much they actually make for tax purposes. And lets not forget the amount of foreigners in the US that arent counted in census or paying US taxes hence no record of at all. They are as ripe for the picking as anyone else if they travel here often enough.
My point was just that, if someone wants to meet someone making over $100k/year, its not impossible. Stats or not, thats not a crazy amount of money that only a small percentage of people make. I just find it hard to believe considering I know several people who make that much, and Im a hermit who hardly leaves the house, socializes or meets that many peopleAnd, considering how crappy the economy and job market are here in FL, I imagine that people out of state can and do make more and even easier to find.
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Interesting survey, kristy (links, please). I'm curious exactly what measurement is being utilized ( Salary alone, W2 or total gross, income from ALL sources ???, etc, etc, etc.............)
I'll try not to muddy the waters too much, but survey could be misleading depending on how things are calculated. Two examples:
1) 401K factor: An individual showing $100K on form 1040 "bottom line" may actually better off than neighbor showing $118K if person A has an employer matching 401K plan, and person B does not. In this case, lets say A has a salary of $115K (almost as good as B), but contributes $15K to 401K plan. A would then have "only" $100K subject to taxes. B has no such plan at his job. Having, say an employer match of 50% effectively puts more money in A's total pot.
2) Both X and Z show incomes of $140K on bottom line. BUT, Mr. Z has some rental properties, and actually makes a bunch more than $140K. Because of depreciation allowances, Mr. Z has his bottom line whittled down a bunch. Who is actually richer in this case ?
If survey does indeed consider income from all sources, my apologies for muddying the water. I (and hopefully others) consider realistic factors before latching on to numbers too much.
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