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    I have to be honest and say that I have never looked at the numbers of any man Ive been with, well...save for my ex husband. But yeah, Ive never asked for pay stubs or enquired about 401k or ask how much his house or car was worth. I just looked at his lifestlye/standard of life and whether or not he was able to sustain it. My best guestimate of how much a guy earned was from noticing his spending habits. Like, my ex gave me an allowance of $4k/mth (and I always ran out...and hed have a stern talk with me about money management as he gave me more ), he was sending 2 godchildren plus my kiddo to private school (kiddos tuition was around $1200/mth) He bought his car in cash, and our house in cash too (close to $500k) plus we took trips, ate out every single night. etc etc etc. And I later found out he had 2 other gf's that he was giving allowances to....one of them contacted me to brag he was giving her about $2k/mth.

    My other ex, on top of his living expenses has a budget of about $5k towards trying to get his band off the ground, between paying PR agents, a promo agent, equipment, studio time, travel for meetings etc. Plus he eats out for lunch and dinner every day (he has been experimenting with cooking though...and has come a long way from the day he called me in a panic cause the egg he was trying to cook exploded in his microwave. ) Plus hes a hypochondriac and has a chiropractor, nutritionist, some holistic healer, a throat dr, his dermatologist...Im sure Im forgetting one or two. At least 2 times a week hes at one dr or another and he pays full since its not covered by insurance. He doesnt spend wisely at all, not like the first guy who is set....I did always kind of worry about how he can keep this up.

    Anyway, my whole point was that sometimes it just takes paying attention. Like if someone is looking for someone who earns a certain amount to take care of them like this thread is about..the first guy I mention is way better off than the second one...cause the second one has no money management skills, and cause of that has gone broke once and ended up on his ex gfs couch til she kicked him out. Youd think he learned but hes still spending the exact same way.
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    Default Re: Ideal Salary your Man would have to make for to sto stripping?

    Another point to consider is what percentage of the ones who make over 100k a year ever visit a strip club? Dancers only have an opportunity to meet a fraction of those. So my figure of only 4 or 5 million might still be too high, considering this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow View Post
    If survey does indeed consider income from all sources, my apologies for muddying the water. I (and hopefully others) consider realistic factors before latching on to numbers too much.
    I thought it was interesting that the OP latched onto "ideal salary" as the criterion of relative wealth, and then sort of ran out of imagination at around 140K in gross, pre-tax income, which often dwindles below 100K before it ever enters his pocket.

    As you've pointed out, a better approach to capture the top income categories -- certainly in the U.S. -- would be to look at all other forms of income first, such as dividends, interest, proceeds from business operations, property rentals, etc.

    Presumably, if this number is large enough, the whole issue of salary goes away, anyway.

    Dancers' polls on such subjects have typically zeroed right in on net worth, which makes a lot more sense, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Good Things View Post
    I thought it was interesting that the OP latched onto "ideal salary" as the criterion of relative wealth, and then sort of ran out of imagination at around 140K in gross, pre-tax income, which often dwindles below 100K before it ever enters his pocket.

    As you've pointed out, a better approach to capture the top income categories -- certainly in the U.S. -- would be to look at all other forms of income first, such as dividends, interest, proceeds from business operations, property rentals, etc.

    Presumably, if this number is large enough, the whole issue of salary goes away, anyway.

    Dancers' polls on such subjects have typically zeroed right in on net worth, which makes a lot more sense, of course.
    True, but someone could have a net worth of zero dollars, but still have income over a million per year. Another example, and this might be iffy, is Donald Trump. He has had net worth in the pennies before, but that has more to do with Tax Evasion/Shelters/What He Reports To The IRS/The Fluctuation of Stock Market, than what he actually "has".

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    ^ The only cases I can think of where somebody would have a plausible net worth of zero dollars and an income over one million USD annually would be professional athletes who are still young and foolish, very successful hip-hop artists who think the money will never end and newly successful movie actors, as well as a few others in motion picture development and other fields of entertainment. And lottery winners, which includes employees working for companies going public through IPOs.

    Oh, and Charlie Sheen.

    There are other examples (independent oil field development is one), but in the overwhelming number of cases involving either inherited wealth or earned wealth, there is some record of the previous years' millions piling up somewhere.

    And don't get me started on The Donald. He was born a multimillionaire, has always had family money throughout all his ups and downs, and has the incredibly poor taste to pretend publicly that his loud mouth and boorish behavior have anything to do with his "success."

    Take away his money and dump him in the South Bronx and he'd be eaten by dawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Good Things View Post
    ^ The only cases I can think of where somebody would have a plausible net worth of zero dollars and an income over one million USD annually would be professional athletes who are still young and foolish, very successful hip-hop artists who think the money will never end and newly successful movie actors, as well as a few others in motion picture development and other fields of entertainment. And lottery winners, which includes employees working for companies going public through IPOs.

    Oh, and Charlie Sheen.

    There are other examples (independent oil field development is one), but in the overwhelming number of cases involving either inherited wealth or earned wealth, there is some record of the previous years' millions piling up somewhere.

    And don't get me started on The Donald. He was born a multimillionaire, has always had family money throughout all his ups and downs, and has the incredibly poor taste to pretend publicly that his loud mouth and boorish behavior have anything to do with his "success."

    Take away his money and dump him in the South Bronx and he'd be eaten by dawn.
    Well, I always thought of him as more entertaining on a "reality" tv show than in real life. That's saying a lot for me, too, because I have the utmost disdain for "reality" tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    Okay well thats a better clari lol! Yeah, just looking at if he owns a house isnt good but a well rounded view makes sense. I dont ask for much really, at least for a guy to be on the same level I am... no roomates/not living with the 'rents, owns a car, has a decent paying job... I dont mind if a guy rents, but if I were looking for a guy with money, then yeah Id expect hed own his own home.
    It's funny because now that I'm looking for a husband as compared to a boyfriend I take this more in consideration. For a boyfriend I don't care if he rents but if he's a potential husband I hope he already owns a house. I think as I get more in seeking my husband I am becoming far more traditional and want a guy who is ready to be a husband and father and the signs I've seen with guys ready is they own a house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    It's funny because now that I'm looking for a husband as compared to a boyfriend I take this more in consideration. For a boyfriend I don't care if he rents but if he's a potential husband I hope he already owns a house. I think as I get more in seeking my husband I am becoming far more traditional and want a guy who is ready to be a husband and father and the signs I've seen with guys ready is they own a house.
    I actually do not mind either way...Ive always been a serious dater though (being a mom at 19 does that I guess lol) so I havnt really dated for fun as opposed to someone I could see a future with...so at least as much as I have has been my basic minimum. The older Ive gotten, the more Ive acquired/maintained on my own, so cause of that my expectations grew with it. I could understand if a guy who was single didnt own a home yet...I would prefer to go house-hunting and have a new place all our own. Of course if I end up buying a home before I meet someone then Id either want him to be a homeowner too, or at least have the means to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socialreject View Post
    Another point to consider is what percentage of the ones who make over 100k a year ever visit a strip club? Dancers only have an opportunity to meet a fraction of those. So my figure of only 4 or 5 million might still be too high, considering this.
    I've worked for quite a few really rich men in my time and I never met a millionaire who didn't regularly visit strip clubs or pay for sex (and they didn't make a secret of it either).

    So I would definitely say that people visiting strip clubs will statistically speaking have above-average salaries. You've got to know your way pretty well though to find the clubs where the ultra-rich hang out. They never invited me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshooks View Post
    In reading the wicked responses from people here, both blue and pink, who value female independence, this thread got me thinking about the types of guys who would want to be a sole earner.
    The OP never mentioned not working. He just asked how much you would want to quit stripping. That's not the same as not having any job.

    Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristy11 View Post
    What I would like to know is where are those people living that are making over $100,000 a year? Chances are, they live and work in big cities like New York, Chicago, etc etc. Typically, the standard of living in these cities are so high, that at $166,000 a year you're breaking even after paying rent/mortgage, paying for your car, parking, eating out, taxes, etc etc.
    It's not just salary but lifestyle and attitudes.

    I know people who are making 40 something k, have several kids, own a house and are going on vacations regularly and don't appear to be missing out on any good stuff.

    I also know people making at least 200k and they always seem to be broke and seeking to borrow money off friends because they can't pay the rent.

    It's a question of spending wisely and controlling your budget. No matter how much or little you have.

    I cannot imagine that there are many locations in the USA, or in the world even, where somebody making 166K is having a hard life unless they're really wasting their money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    According to US census, July 2011 there are 311,591,917 living in the US.

    So then,
    15% of that, earning $100k or more according to the stats you have, is almost 47 million people.
    3% of that, earning $200k or more, is over 9 million people

    Thats a lot of people... Even if the stats show that the majority of Americans make $47k/year, that doesnt really negate the fact that there is still a substantial amount of people making more than that, and if someone wants to meet someone who makes more than average wages, its not an impossible find.

    Just do what I do...swear off wealthy men cause you dont want some guy using his money as leverage for power in the relationship...and every freaking guy you meet will be ridiculously wealthy. And try purposefully going after a guy who looks and lives like he doesnt have much money, only to find out he lives incredibly modestly, well below his means. Scope out guys who wear solid black walking sneakers, which always look brand new. As ridiculously stupid as that sounds, both of my ex's wore those as everyday casual shoes, and Ive noticed this with other guys Ive met too.

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    Only one thing wrong with your numbers. You're assuming EVERY American is employed.

    You need to factor in the following;

    1. Those who are unemployed.
    2. Those who are unemployed and have been so for longer than a year and have fallen off the list such that when they gather unemployment numbers, these people are no longer taken into account!
    3. Those who have given up completely of ever finding any employment and are on social assistance forever.
    4. Those who are not employed "full-time" but instead, are "part-time". Part-timer's are never included in employment statistics because their employment is considered unstable/inconsistentunreliable for being included in the numbers.

    Simply put, unless you're a stripper working for a club where you clock in every shift and work a minimum 35 hour work-week, you're not included in these statistics either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow View Post
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    Interesting survey, kristy (links, please). I'm curious exactly what measurement is being utilized ( Salary alone, W2 or total gross, income from ALL sources ???, etc, etc, etc.............)
    I'll try not to muddy the waters too much, but survey could be misleading depending on how things are calculated. Two examples:

    1) 401K factor: An individual showing $100K on form 1040 "bottom line" may actually better off than neighbor showing $118K if person A has an employer matching 401K plan, and person B does not. In this case, lets say A has a salary of $115K (almost as good as B), but contributes $15K to 401K plan. A would then have "only" $100K subject to taxes. B has no such plan at his job. Having, say an employer match of 50% effectively puts more money in A's total pot.

    2) Both X and Z show incomes of $140K on bottom line. BUT, Mr. Z has some rental properties, and actually makes a bunch more than $140K. Because of depreciation allowances, Mr. Z has his bottom line whittled down a bunch. Who is actually richer in this case ?

    If survey does indeed consider income from all sources, my apologies for muddying the water. I (and hopefully others) consider realistic factors before latching on to numbers too much.
    I pulled my info from this link below;

    http://www.averagesalarysurvey.com/a.../15200316.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    I'm wondering why we are talking about these people? Why the fuck would anyone on this site consider enter a stable relationship with, much less give up their income to be with, a person who has given up on ever finding employment? Why should we settle for someone making $47,000 a year and agree to split their meager earnings?

    The way you post is making me question your ribbon...
    Well to be fair, how many times have we heard about women dating guys who weren't working or making enough and supporting them? I've known women (not dancers)who have quit jobs when the man even made less than that so nothing surprises me anymore. I'm not even sure why the unemployed or those on assistance were brought up because that had nothing to do with this silly thread, unless of course maybe one of these men (or men pretending to be women)thinks that women desire men who are on assistance forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kristy11 View Post
    Only one thing wrong with your numbers. You're assuming EVERY American is employed.

    You need to factor in the following;

    1. Those who are unemployed.
    2. Those who are unemployed and have been so for longer than a year and have fallen off the list such that when they gather unemployment numbers, these people are no longer taken into account!
    3. Those who have given up completely of ever finding any employment and are on social assistance forever.
    4. Those who are not employed "full-time" but instead, are "part-time". Part-timer's are never included in employment statistics because their employment is considered unstable/inconsistentunreliable for being included in the numbers.

    Simply put, unless you're a stripper working for a club where you clock in every shift and work a minimum 35 hour work-week, you're not included in these statistics either.
    Im glad you caught that....though you missed my message afterwards where I said:

    Woah woah woah! LoL I didnt post the statistics, I was just playing along with the ones posted.

    I think statistics are flawed,heck even my own lil calculation is grossly flawed...notice I said "there are 311,591,917 living in the US"
    That of course includes infants, the elderly, and everyone inbetween who couldnt possibly hold a job.
    In other words...I wasnt really taking it seriously.
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    Seven figures. Anything less than that and I feel like the guy would give me shit for how I spend money. I like being independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Avery_ View Post
    I could care less if my man was rich or poor....if I loved him, I'd be with him regardless of his salary.
    Hell, some of my best memories and best times came when we were broke as fuck.
    This really makes it sound like "so, how much of a gold digger are you"...in my opinion. :/
    My opnion exactly nicly put

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    I have to agree with strippers on this thread. 140K is not a whole lot of money especially if you have to support a non-working spouse. On top of that, if she is high maintenance girl then that sum is just a pocket change and nothing more than that. I make good money and yet I never asked my wife to quit working. But of course, she took it upon herself to quit working.

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    This poll suggests that strippers are in the profession because they don't have reasonable alternatives other than a sugar daddy. If I were a waiter, I guess I need my lady to, make $150k?

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    I know some waiters that make way more than $150K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy29 View Post
    This poll suggests that strippers are in the profession because they don't have reasonable alternatives other than a sugar daddy. If I were a waiter, I guess I need my lady to, make $150k?
    Obviously you don't understand the question, if you want to ask a woman that is making good money to stop their job whatever it is, your going to need to be making good money yourself to supplement her income.

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    This seems to be a valid question. However I don't think its should just be "your man". Because he could make $200,000 a year and still give you $100 a month to get by on. So I really think it not only depends on his income but also what level the relationship is at. Is this "the one" or is this "for now". Are you married to him? just f-buddies with additional benefits? It really depends on how much he has , how generous he is with what he has and what you plan to do with all this time off. Some dancers have left the industry after being whisked away by a well off bf however it didn't turn out so well because he wasn't sharing his wealth or was hording his income. What eventually happened is that the level of control he had over her comings and goings resembled a father figure than an actual partner. So yes money will always be of importance in the land where everything runs on it but still women in the industry need to have some sort of monthly expected financial to be given or you're just around until he says hit the ground. If she's getting a monthly allowance or stipend of sorts that enough for her shopping, clothes etc and also something to put away then yes it makes sense. Someone having alot is not necessarily going to give you alot in some respects because their wealth and lifestyle is generally what attracted the woman to him in the first place. If she's saving the money he's giving her and later he decides he wants a new vag to stick , then she's set up with some income for all the time she's been out of work. If she hasn't saved then she'll generally have to start from scratch a few pounds heavier,older and maybe out of shape. Plus she may have gotten used to a certain lifestyle that she'll have to fight tooth and nail to keep.

    No point in having a wealthy selfish man that you have no legal ties to. Get an allowance or he's paying the rent or maybe you have some at home side job that doesn't cause too many issues. Plus if she's not in school , this would be a perfect time to go back or start.

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    I started a thread in another section asking if women would be open to being a housewife and quite a few said only if he's rich. To me this says a lot about women, especially independent women. Meaning that smart women realize that if they are going to put themselves making money on hold they need to make sure the money is coming from somewhere. Also, I believe the majority mentioned only if they were married and quite a few mentioned if they had kids.

    My point of mentioning this is because smart women realize that you can't depend on a man in many cases, like not being married. The reality is if a dancer quits dancing to take care of her man she wants to make sure she doesn't suffer financial setbacks. If you aren't married to the guy and he gets bored of you (as often happens)the woman is in serious financial trouble. If she hasn't worked in years she might find that she will struggle to recover. Even if she was married she will often find trouble, though at least in many of these cases she will receive alimony and child support if there are kids.

    I know quite a few women who quit working for a man but in the majority of these cases were professional women with skills who married professional men and they decided she would stay home with the kids until they went to school. Many of them had savings that allowed them to do this for a few years and also they kept in contact with people so when they went back to work they were able to. Others had jobs they could do at home and still others worked parttime. They are the exception because they didn't leave a job for a boyfriend.

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    For me to quit stripping my man would need to make enough money to pay a doctor to remove the part of my brain that knows its a bad idea to rely on anyone else for money....EVER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettJanuary View Post
    For me to quit stripping my man would need to make enough money to pay a doctor to remove the part of my brain that knows its a bad idea to rely on anyone else for money....EVER.
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