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    Question My Silly Hair Experiments... What Next?

    I need some advice, or new ideas, or anything really on what to do with my hair next. About six weeks ago, I wanted to warm up my level 10 blonde hair (with about two inches of virgin level 8 roots) to have more reddish tones, to achieve a strawberry blonde shade close to my natural color. The first mistake I made was buying a box of compound henna in "strawberry blonde." It turned my hair blueish brown. Afraid to use chemical dye over the compound "henna," I used Manic Panic in bright red and left it on for 24 hours. It faded quickly to a color my mom called "period blood." After a couple rounds of margaritas, we bought a box of L'Oreal Healthy Look in White Chocolate (second mistake). It turned the roots the perfect shade of strawberry blonde... and the rest of the hair BRIGHT LIGHT BLUE. Next I used Beyond the Zone Color Jamz in Outrageous Orange. It evened it out to a bright, wild orange for a couple days. Next, I did a soap cap/bleach bath, which turned my roots a normal level 9 shade of strawberry blonde, and the rest of the hair a bright pastel blue. The next day, I used a protein filler in red, and then Beyond the Zone Glam Street Glaze in Red. Then my hair looked like an Easter egg. From root to tip: orange, blue, blonde, yellow, pink. I bit the bullet and bought L'Oreal Preference Mega Reds in Light Intense Copper and 20Vol developer. Turned my hair a normal shade of dark red with the roots and the length blended fairly well. But of course it faded after two weeks to what is shown in the picture. My hair is in good condition, because throughout this all I've been doing protein treatments with Aphogee and Redken Chemistry Shotphase/phix, and doing deep conditioning masks twice a week, and only washing twice a week. It's healthy, just a stupid gray-blue-green with red-orange roots. What can I do next? I still want strawberry blonde hair, but this blue color is super resilient and re-pigmenting with red only lasts so long, and overall the hair is too dark. I'm considering another bleach bath/soap cap, then using a mixture of the lightest blonde and a bit of light red in Wella Color Charm Demi-perm. But then committing to re-pigmenting with demi-perms every couple weeks until it grows out. I'm trying to grow my hair out, so I don't really want to give up and cut it all off, though I'm not entirely opposed to that either. I wear wigs at work, so none of this experimenting is affecting my money. Also, going to a professional is out, because this has become my hobby/pet project, and obviously I'm not emotionally invested in my hair, I've just run out of ideas. Anyone?
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    oh jeez, girl, that is a ridiculous rainbow prism of colors you've gone through. Good thing you have wigs at work! I will say, you have some awesomely resilient hair if it's not giving you hell after all that. What you COULD try is bleaching it again, and using some REAL henna on it, none of that weird compound 'henna' stuff, ideally a mix with Cassia (1/2 and 1/2 would work well). Mix it with lemon juice and chamomile tea (no additives/honey, sugar, etc, and heavier on the lemon juice than the tea) until it's yoghurt consistency, let it sit for 24 hours, then slather it in for 2 1/2 3 hours, and that should help get you closer. For hair your length you shouldn't need more than about 200grams.

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    I had my hair red for awhile and I hated having it look blah when I couldn't keep up with the red dye, and the occasional root jobs. so annoying!
    That's awesome that your hair is looking that great! If I was you, I would find a good non-ammonium hair dye in a red tone you like, and bulk buy
    them, and just dye your hair the same day every week.

    It does suck that there's so many bad hennas on the market. I would agree that, should you desire to go the henna route, you need to find a good henna (typically those made for skin since
    the ones marketed for hair are actually a lower grade henna.) The long hair forum could help you out with this since there's a lot of info on henna and
    cassia there. I did henna for the most part, with occasional forays into commercial hair dyes, trying to keep the ammonia ones to a minimum.

    Have you tried a color lift? Go to Sally's, and I think it's the yellow box of color lift-- should try to pull out as much hair dye from your shaft as possible. Each box should be worth 2-3 applications
    and do that over a couple of days-- see what you're left with and then go with whatever red you choose-- be it non-ammonia, or henna.

    You've got really cute hair though. I miss my short hair. Seems the longer it is, the less likely you are to experiment with it, so if I were you, I'd probably be doing a bunch of crazy manic panic
    dyes while I could That's something to do when you get sick of having to redye your hair red often anyway
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    Update: used a color corrector from Sally's (Ion Color Brilliance Color Corrector), and it lightened up my hair... lightened it up to bright blue lengths with bright orange roots again. I'm beginning to believe that my hair is stained blue to it's deepest depth. I'm having thoughts of cutting it short again, just to get the blue stained hair outta my way. But surely there must be some shade of non-damaging dye or toner that I can use to blend the warm roots and ashy lengths...?

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    I'm racking my brain trying to think what chemical combination gave you blue results. That seems pretty strange to me, like trace minerals reacting with your chemicals. I'd give up on blonde and use red as an interim colour.

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    I bet anything the weird blue came from mixing henna with box hair dye. I've always heard that's a big no no..... henna cannot mix with hair dye, you go henna and stay that route.
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    The blue first showed up right after using the "henna." There were probably all sorts of weird ingredients in it that interacted with either the bleached hair, or simply the fact that there was no red pigment in the bleached hair, because it's only blue where it used to be platinum. But, it dried after using the color stripper/corrector and faded from the bright colors it was when wet. Now it just looks like half warm blonde and half cool blonde. Now I'm considering going over it all with a diluted pink veggie dye with orange undertones... Ah, I can't resist ALL THE COLORS!!

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    I want to tell you to use a non-bleach lifter to shrink the dye particles and rinse them out, but I'm afraid of whatever combination that turned your hair blue already and how it might react with such a product... Regardless, just putting a toner on orange hair probably isn't going to look good; it tends to just look muddied. At this point, I'm not really sure what "fillers" your hair has in it anymore. I don't understand the blue either, but if I had to guess, I'd put my money on what JD said about mixing the dyes. I've never used henna, but if it's that stained, then bleach baths aren't going to do much. I'd just outright bleach it to a level shade and tone with a box dye.

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    Henna, bleach, box dye and now vegetable dye??? Pick one approach and stick with it. You're going to make some irreparable mistakes and trash your hair.

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    Okay-- yes, you are not supposed to mix henna treatments with drugstore box treatments.
    A few caveats:
    IF you are using a "hair" henna, most likely, unless you are buying from a reputable hair henna website that specializes in that stuff, you are getting crappy henna and this means your chances of bad reactions increase.
    also,
    IF you use hair dye (and even some hennas) use metallic salts. From what I've read-- if you dye your hair with henna, and then later dye your hair with a dye containing a metallic salt then yes, you are likely going to get bad results.

    FYI, this is what I was talking about at Sally's:


    urgh-- just accidently deleted a bunch of stuff:
    At the moment, sounds like you should stick to vegetable dyes.
    try the color stripper, and go from there.

    Also-- your hair isn't blue anymore-- so you're just looking to lighten it a bit and then go a bit red? If you're just going to jump from red to something else, then I would say start with the lightest colors first-- orange, red, pink (pink fades to orange,) and then if you want go to blues, purples, and greens. If you want to avoid the ugly blue fade, mix with pink or purple.







    argh.
    now I just want to chop off my hair and play with the pretty colors too
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiendishGyrator View Post

    argh.
    now I just want to chop off my hair and play with the pretty colors too
    Yes!!! All the pretty colors!!!

    After using the color corrector (i used Ion's instead of the yellow box of color fix), my hair is really just two toned blonde. I even went into a salon today to browse the red/copper/pink tinted shampoos and conditioners, and not one of the stylists freaked out and told me my hair was the scariest thing that's been in the salon in weeks! The stylist I spoke to just recommended a copper toned conditioner to "tone down the ashiness."

    I also read last night somewhere (Long Hair Community or Hair Dye Forum) that a good way to determine if your hair is in good shape is to wash it in the harshest, cheapest sulfate shampoo and strip all the silicones and oils and anything else coating the hair and hiding damage. If your hair doesn't feel or look scary after that, it's probably not too severely damaged. I washed it in Suave's clarifying shampoo before a protein treatment today, and it was completely fine. I combed through it with no problems after shampooing it! Yay! I haven't completely destroyed it!

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    cool. So what are you going to do now?
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