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    So my Eros ad is finally up (woot) and I've started to get a few emails about it. I received one today from a guy who described themselves, what he's into etc, and he said he has seen a few independent providers and some under-the-radar models. He ended it by asking if I enjoy taking trips to Greece (I know what this means lol, and no, I don't)

    Is this the kind of email you should delete right away based on what it suggests? I haven't sent him my screening form yet although his email address brought up no results. On one hand I'm like, what if I erase it and then he would have been happy to see me anyway and passed screening? But on the other hand, I don't want to even hint at something like that if it's an email from LE.

    Any advice? (here or by PM would be great)


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    Is your screening form not in public? Why do you have to send it to him?
    I would answer it. If your screening form is public, he should have at least filled it out.
    Don't delete it.

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    Nope, the website template doesn't have a part where I could put it, other than a "contact me" section which doesn't allow me to personalize it. In my Contact Me page, I put something like, "please contact me here (email address) so we can cover some light screening"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_McKenna View Post
    Nope, the website template doesn't have a part where I could put it, other than a "contact me" section which doesn't allow me to personalize it. In my Contact Me page, I put something like, "please contact me here (email address) so we can cover some light screening"
    You will want to get away from those escort template sites. They're good for now since you're just starting out.

    I'll say again that since he worded his email that way that it's ok to answer with a simple yes or no. Unless you have a p411 listing there is no way for guys to know this information. You have to know how to read them to tell if they really are a potential client or a time waster. In this case, he sounds like a potential client. If he has seen other ladies, he will most likely pass screening. I say go for it.

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    I do not respond to any emails where a guy talks about sexual services. Acronyms and code words are not exactly secret....its equal to saying flat out "do you do anal?" Unless hes talking about actually booking you a trip to Greece But yeah...I am very cautious that way. I do not ever discuss sexual activity, and I do not respond to anyone who does. I do realize that I could be losing some really good potential clients, but Id rather be safe than take a chance that its an innocent question for information about what sort of sexual things I will do with him on our date.
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    Default Re: Suggestive talk in escort emails

    Thanks for the advice!! Teaze, I love the email form suggestions! I got one set up and linked to my site so hopefully it'll work out, I really like it. I'm really happy with the way my ad worked out too, on Eros it was $195 for the base ad and $350 for VIP, so I went for the base one. The next day, Eros called and offered me an upgrade to VIP for the month for $30 as I was a first-time advertiser, which was awesome!

    I think I'm going to reply to the guy to ask him for his screening information, but completely ignore the greek comment.


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    Default Re: Suggestive talk in escort emails

    He has asked about sexual services.

    Discussing acts is a HUGE no-no and any man who has booked an escort before knows it.

    Cops, judges and lawyers ALL know what "trips to Greece" means and the use of slang gives you zero protection in a court of law.

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    Maybe i felt it was ok to answer the question because my answer would be "no".
    You almost have to be a pro to be able to tell when a guy is seriously looking to book a date
    and when he's trying to entrap you.

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    Just delete his email and stay away from guys who inquire about specific sexual services. I'm wondering though, if a guy asks whether you're a GFE, can answering him get one in (legal) trouble?

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    Well, GFE is not a sexual act, its just a general description that means girlfriend experience. As a matter of fact, theres so much confusion/debate over what GFE even means and entails that it would be an incredibly weak thing to try and use against someone, unlike CIM, BBBJ, Greece, Asian, etc which are clearly sexual acts.
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    While GFE is not a sexual act, it's a tip of to the police. Cops know what all these acronyms mean. When they see GFE, they know you are willing to engage in BBBJ and kiss. There is nothing wrong with describing yourself as a GFE or a PSE but answering "Yes" to the question "Are you GFE?" could get you in trouble. Some of our companions will say "The girlfriend you've always wanted", "The girlfriend of your dream " or "Honeymoon experience....etc. Now that could mean anything.

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    Not necessarily though, that is what I mean by there is so much debate around what GFE entails...you believe it means BBBJ and kissing, but there are GFEs who advertise themselves as such, but do not do either. The whole subject of what GFE is has started wars lol But like, the acro CIM means Cum in mouth. It means literally, there will be cum in mouth and there is no room for debate or argument on what that is supposed to mean. GFE stands for girlfriend experience, and it means...whatever the person saying it wants it to mean. Ive heard many guys say they even totally ignore the term GFE, cause it means so many things, that it may as well mean nothing at all.

    Just by being an escort is a tip off to the police, just by having rates displayed "solely for time and companionship only" is a tip off to the police as well...so being afraid to tip someone off that you might be engaging in illegal activity is something we all do just by virtue of being an escort, but blatantly answering questions about, or saying you do specific sexual acts is not a tip off...its pretty direct and to the point. Theres very little that is direct and to the point about GFE...you can ask 5 different people what it means, and get 5 different answers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    Not necessarily though, that is what I mean by there is so much debate around what GFE entails...you believe it means BBBJ and kissing, but there are GFEs who advertise themselves as such, but do not do either. The whole subject of what GFE is has started wars lol
    I'm aware. However when most punters see "GFE" they assume bbbj and kiss. When a cop sees GFE, they assume you are advertising sexual services. You don't draw LE attention for being an escort. Escorting is legal. You draw LE attention with reviews, with acros, too much traffic to your hotel room..etc. There is a term for GFEs that will not do BBBJs - it's called "Safe GFE". There is a girl we are currently working with in New Jersey that advertises this way. She hasn't had one request to give a bbbj yet. At the end of the day it all depends on how you advertise. A girl that advertises GFE and doesn't kiss or engage in BBBJ is only opening herself to bad reviews. That is just fact. Here's my last point: There are ways of telling a client what you will do and won't do without staying it yourself. For example: You can utilize the activities section on P411. If you search and see you will see where ladies list sexual activities they will and won't do. P411 lists it as "Activities I enjoy:". You can simply link to this page and tell your potential clients to "check out my p411 profile". Their eyes will land on that little section and they will see for themselves and determine if you are a match. Some companions do this, other won't. However, we haven't attracted unwanted attention with it. P411 is run by a lady that provided for 15 years. Gina knows what she is doing having that little section there. Good luck.

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    I totally wont argue with you, cause like I said, this whole topic has caused many a war. You mention that people assume what it means, and I totally agree...one can only assume since it doesnt not have a definite meaning regarding any specific sexual act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlkSharpie View Post
    I totally wont argue with you, cause like I said, this whole topic has caused many a war. You mention that people assume what it means, and I totally agree...one can only assume since it doesnt not have a definite meaning regarding any specific sexual act.
    Exactly why it wouldn't matter if the OP answered yes or no to his email. They're not talking about a specific sexual act. He could really mean a trip to greece. People can assume what they want. Do you see how you just kinda contradicted yourself, Sharpie? . Ijs......

    If he said "Do you do Anal?" and she says "Yes" -- that could end badly.
    I've also been an escort long enough to know what is ok and what is not. Not arguing eithr I'm just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    Exactly why it wouldn't matter if the OP answered yes or no to his email. They're not talking about a specific sexual act. He could really mean a trip to greece. People can assume what they want. Do you see how you just kinda contradicted yourself, Sharpie? . Ijs......

    If he said "Do you do Anal?" and she says "Yes" -- that could end badly.
    I've also been an escort long enough to know what is ok and what is not. Not arguing eithr I'm just saying.
    Yeah, that is what Im saying though, greece is well known and an agreed code word for anal sex, which is a specific sexual act. True, he could really be inquiring on whether or not she wants to go to greece with him, just like if he asked if she did CIM, he wanted to know if she competes in the Cali International Marathon, just like if he asked about LFK he just might be curious if she has dealings with a German missile company. Okay, I will not say that a guy has never contacted an escort to ask these pressing questions But in our industry, those words and terms do have a very specific meaning.

    GFE is not even a verb...its an adjective...for a guy to ask "do you do GFE?" would not even make sense...how do you *do* GFE? What specific sexual act would he be referring to? That is something that no one can agree on...except that it stands for girlfriend experience, any other detail about gfe is a huge debate. Personally, on my website in my FAQ, I even have the question "are you gfe?" with the answer along the lines of "all the fun of a an experience with a girlfriend, without the obligations of a traditional relationship" No mention of sexual acts.

    Its my own personal thing and Im not contradicting myself...I do not discuss sexual acts Ill do or wont do on a date with code words and acros. I know its a pretty common thing though and others are totally comfortable doing so...But I really am not set out to tell someone how to do their business or anything like that, so Im not argung with or against someone who does things differently.
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    BTW...I do realize I may be losing potential clients by not answering questions like that, but Im totally fine with it. Think of it this way...those who are comfy with it will get those guys instead of me...my loss!
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    Ok.....

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    I am the same - i do not have any explicit conversation that involves what i will or wont do - i was involved in a federal bust years ago and they had tapped the phones for over a year - new technology can even track your keyboard key strokes - alot of guys dont like that but i dont care - knock on wood 25 years safe - woot woot - the bust was for the agency and tax evasion ( none of the ladies were charged ) but they still showed how invasive they can be - I will give them as little evidence to walk in court with as i can

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    You bring up a good unrelated point too....Pay taxes!! If they cant get us on anything else, they will go for that!
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    Now I know to pay taxes....but is it really risky to hold off until you get things rolling and established...?

    And ya, I never respond to anything direct or in anyway sexual. If they push or demand a I hang up. I was afraid of coming off rude, but I really dgaf at the moment now that I have actually had appointments that were easy to screen and kept everything within bounds.

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    I think its risky, then again Im very conservative when it comes to this, and report all of my income, with every job that I do. I have to admit though, while the whole tax evasion thing scares me, I do want to be able to have the proof and history that I make enough income when I want to get a nicer apartment, or buy a house or car etc. I really hate taxes, but its one of those necessary evils, and well, its the American thing to do! *FML*
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    Ya I get it but haha IDK like when it becomes more reg. I'll handle it until then I have my camming income. Or maybe I'll keep track of it and pay it back later in the year... its a big ordeal to do all this. So complicated :/ Just spent another 70 bucks on a new ad on a diff. site, these are expensive!!

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    Uncle Pimp can be mean - expensive ads are a business expense that you can write off - maybe try getting one card that you use striclty for your business - they can penalize you for being a bad bookkeeper but they prosecute you for not paying at all

    If you dont pay they still have a formula that they use to determine what you make based on lifestyle assesment - I'm not sure what it is called

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikki_Fox View Post
    Uncle Pimp can be mean - expensive ads are a business expense that you can write off - maybe try getting one card that you use striclty for your business - they can penalize you for being a bad bookkeeper but they prosecute you for not paying at all

    If you dont pay they still have a formula that they use to determine what you make based on lifestyle assesment - I'm not sure what it is called
    Yes. As long as you have a social security number and you are paying bills - the IRS knows you're paying bills. Therefore, you are making money someway somehow and they're gonna need to get their cut.

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