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    In the near future me and several other investors will be putting a new Cam site out on the net. We have the server, program, and software already and the interface will run similiar to streamate and but what I wanted to know is what would you like/not like from the current available sites.

    This goes from a members point of view as well, so keep in mind things such as cost, and features

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedVelvetDesires View Post
    In the near future me and several other investors will be putting a new Cam site out on the net. We have the server, program, and software already and the interface will run similiar to streamate and but what I wanted to know is what would you like/not like from the current available sites.

    This goes from a members point of view as well, so keep in mind things such as cost, and features
    - Lots of paying traffic
    - An option to do paid chat only (not being in free chat)

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    Default Re: What would be the perfect site from a member/performer perspective

    Offering phone as an added charge with cam or having an option for phone when the cam model doesn't feel like being on cam.

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    I actually like how SM is set up, just take away GOLD shows (or at least a certain daily limit on those) and up the percentage to at least 50%...I actually like free chat sometimes, however I do feel it would be awesome if guys had to atleast spend a damn buck to be in our room lol...and no 30 second rule...seems fair to us and custies, hell more than fair lol

    I also feel phone should be an added charge, I hate doing phone, I am not good at phone sex, all you will here is moans cause I don't know a damn thing to say lol





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    Quote Originally Posted by lolabunny View Post
    I actually like how SM is set up, just take away GOLD shows (or at least a certain daily limit on those) and up the percentage to at least 50%...I actually like free chat sometimes, however I do feel it would be awesome if guys had to atleast spend a damn buck to be in our room lol...and no 30 second rule...seems fair to us and custies, hell more than fair lol

    I also feel phone should be an added charge, I hate doing phone, I am not good at phone sex, all you will here is moans cause I don't know a damn thing to say lol
    Me too. I do like the gold shows though, many of the top models make ALOT in a short amount of time. Plus they give the members who dont spend as much a good bang for their buck

    We were going for 45% + a 50% for referred members, lifetime
    no 30 second rule either

    still undecided on phone

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    I am on Streamate, so I'm sure a lot of what I am saying will be based off my experience with that site.

    1. An option to do paid chat only
    2. An offline tipping system
    3. Higher payout (at least 45%, but obviously, the more the better)
    4. Having members pay in a currency that is consistent with what the model makes. (ie. Lots of custies on SM really think that when they tip me $10 GOLD, that I actually received $10...when in reality, I received $3.50---so maybe a better way of having custies know what they are giving us)
    5. A wishlist feature and ability to share outside information (ie. Twitter)
    6. 24 hour performer support.
    7. I personally like Streamate's phone/c2c option now....I just tell my customers that if they spend $___ more then I give them the option to do C2C and Phone.
    8. A way to see the customer's stats---like if they would be considered "premium" members based on the amount of shows they that typically buy.
    9. No beggars! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    Paypal doesn't allow any adult transactions, and even if they did, its easy for the customer to do a chargeback and get a 100% refund because there is no tangible item & thus no tracking number to prove you delivered his goods.

    That being said, also:
    - Allow models to be paid FOR FREE by direct deposit or added to payoneer card
    - High payout percentage (or if not, see below)
    - A good affiliate program (yes I realize having both this one and the previous one make no sense profit-wise for your company)

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    I heard that part of the reason for SM's low % is due to the costs of hosting the streaming. If every girl hosted her own stream (using the encoder) perhaps this could cut down costs and the performers can get a larger cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amberose View Post
    I heard that part of the reason for SM's low % is due to the costs of hosting the streaming. If every girl hosted her own stream (using the encoder) perhaps this could cut down costs and the performers can get a larger cut?
    Its more because they have a high paying affiliate program. And anyway, most people would use the encoder if their computer and internet speed could handle it. Outside the US and Canada, internet speeds are horrible and cannot run the encoder at the speed needed to actually stream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Its more because they have a high paying affiliate program. And anyway, most people would use the encoder if their computer and internet speed could handle it. Outside the US and Canada, internet speeds are horrible and cannot run the encoder at the speed needed to actually stream.
    thats actually not true at all. Romanian and Russian internet blows our out of the water..most of them just use fiber optic

    and yes, you are correct about the high paying affiliate program...but those are crucial if you want a site with high traffic...so there will always be a push/shove when it comes to % compared to traffic

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedVelvetDesires View Post
    thats actually not true at all. Romanian and Russian internet blows our out of the water..most of them just use fiber optic

    and yes, you are correct about the high paying affiliate program...but those are crucial if you want a site with high traffic...so there will always be a push/shove when it comes to % compared to traffic
    I've heard from many models (even ones on SW) that they do not have access to very high speed internet because its just not offered. Maybe romania and russia are the exceptions, but I see no one else from countries other than those besides canada and US and maybe UK somtimes on that site. And I'm sure its like that for a reason.

    Affiliate programs aren't crucial for high traffic. Just look at MFC. They have never had an affiliate program (though they do have referral #s you can give customers to sign up under).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedVelvetDesires View Post
    We were going for 45% + a 50% for referred members, lifetime
    no 30 second rule either
    50% for referred members is useless, because other sites pay 75%-100% for referred members. Girls will just take their regs there instead.

    *** ETA: Oh wait... Did u mean 45 PLUS 50, as in 95%? Ok, that's definitely better, if that's what u meant. Sorry... Just woke up. Lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedVelvetDesires View Post
    thats actually not true at all. Romanian and Russian internet blows our out of the water..most of them just use fiber optic
    That is true! I'm also from eastern eu, not the above mentioned countries, and I pay less than 30$ for unlimited landline calls, tv, and internet. The internet is 80/25 and whenever I test it, i get 60ish DL and 23-24 is UL. It is just normal. All the internet providers offer this kind of speed, you really have to live on a farm or in very tiny village to not to have great internet. My parents live at the edge of a tiny village and the best non-satellite internet they can get offers guaranteed upload speed of 1 mbps and we were totally shocked to have that SLOW only. But even there the satellite internet is available and that is very fast as well. In the towns fiber optic is just common. But the old cable is providing guaranteed 5mbps uploads as well. In addition when tested, the speed is waaay above the guaranteed speed. Actually it is suprising to have the guaranteed only, and people start to talk shit if they don't get better than the minimum guaranteed.

    And fiber optic is spreading like a disease. To be honest I was really suprised to see how slow and expensieve the US and Canada internets are compared to our "barbarian" countries. The company which provides internet for me said, their system with some minor investments will be able to handle even greater speeds, but there is no demand yet, probably they will offer it in the future.

    Most of the models from here work in physical studios and they do not use encoder, because they work for 15-16 sites in the same time, and they don't want to slow down the pc with tricky stuff.



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    RVD when do you propose to have your website up and running? Have you a name yet? Will it cover a range of categories?
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    OMG i hate phone to .. with a passion.. I only do it for more money... and to keep up with the times.. but i cannot stand it.. I could give you a few tips.. I offer phone on SM.. and two phone sites.. lol

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabunny View Post
    I actually like how SM is set up, just take away GOLD shows (or at least a certain daily limit on those) and up the percentage to at least 50%...I actually like free chat sometimes, however I do feel it would be awesome if guys had to atleast spend a damn buck to be in our room lol...and no 30 second rule...seems fair to us and custies, hell more than fair lol

    I also feel phone should be an added charge, I hate doing phone, I am not good at phone sex, all you will here is moans cause I don't know a damn thing to say lol

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    I would like to have an option to accept or decline privates, the way we can with exclusives on SM. There are times when you are setting up to do a gold show or have some other reason that at that exact moment you are not prepared to take a private show. It would be nice to have the option to decline it.

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    If MFC enforced the rules and models had their accounts closed for doing free public shows then MFC would be the perfect site.
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    why not just milk out a minute and tell the customer you cannot do one now, but you are willing to do one later?

    and yes our affiliate program will be at 95%

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    Quote Originally Posted by TM1975 View Post
    I would like to have an option to accept or decline privates, the way we can with exclusives on SM. There are times when you are setting up to do a gold show or have some other reason that at that exact moment you are not prepared to take a private show. It would be nice to have the option to decline it.
    On the other hand, when I'm in a show it is very annoying when I have to interrupt it, and let someone in. On ImLive I often had 3-4 guys in pvt, and I hated with passion the "let him in" system. Especially when my ass was facing the cam, hands were covered in oil, and lube, and had to turn around, find the mouse and try to click OK. Maybe an option to turn privates off for 1-2 minutes would be better.

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    we were thinking of an option to log in for a "multi user" chat and an option for a "VIP only" chat - basically just like exclusive

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    You know I will believe it when I see it. Until then I'll sit with my hat on my head. (will eat it as and when) Since I can't but feel this is another streamate site under another name. Let the troll bells ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CurvySweet View Post
    RVD when do you propose to have your website up and running? Have you a name yet? Will it cover a range of categories?
    Yes, all the categories that the other sites have. Once we submit it to the billing companies it usually takes 3-5 days to get approved...then we will launch a demo version for 30-45 days. So expect it up in about 6 weeks

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    You know I will believe it when I see it.
    Ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    - Lots of paying traffic
    - An option to do paid chat only (not being in free chat)
    Yes!

    If the site had these two things I'd sign up immediately.

    If the site also had weekly pay I'd be more apt to work a lot of hours
    If the site had daily pay (like the CMB paycard or something similar) I'd be on a ton of hours.
    also the ability to block would be a big plus.


    Honestly though, getting paying viewers is going to be your biggest problem. I'm always very skeptical when I see someone trying to start a new site. The odds are stacked against it.


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