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    Default How is lying and sending an innocent man to prison, NOT a crime??

    Really?? There's no consequences for being a lying bitch??

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    Default Re: How is lying and sending an innocent man to prison, NOT a crime??

    It is sick and while I despise rapists most of all there have been cases of those who were innocent. There had been a national case many years ago of the brother of a childhood neighbor where he was sent to prison after being falsely accused, then his accuser recanted on a morning show (Good Morning America or Today Show). He was released but he never fully recovered and had serious drug issues afterwards.

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    Default Re: How is lying and sending an innocent man to prison, NOT a crime??

    Amazing how there's seemingly no competent trial of any sort. "He raped me." Boom, he's in jail. "Oops, actually I lied." Boom, he's out of jail. How simple. I wonder what "evidence" was actually presented.

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    I saw this story on reddit (along with several thousand comments). For what it's worth, the 11-year old girl in question was apparently sexually active with a fellow classmate, which produced some physical evidence of sexual trauma.

    Many comments there also suggested that it seems like a bit of a stretch (but not impossible) to think an 11-year old thought up this vengeance. I suspect the divorce was ugly and Mommy may have planted an idea in her head, but with no evidence of that, not much to be done.

    I read through many comments and thought about it for a while, and here's what I came up with:

    [1] What can we do? Every time we read a news story, every time we are selected as a jury member, every time we are in a position to pass judgement, we should always do our best, no matter what the case is, to eliminate prejudices and pre-conceived notions from our minds, and follow the evidence. Basically we should be Grissom from CSI.

    [2] Her punishment: community service helping rape victims, particularly those who feared coming forward thinking they wouldn't be believed. And she should have to tell them how she lied, and apologize to actual rape victims for making the ordeal even harder on them. One day a week, for the rest of her life.



    This stuff scares the crap out of me and makes me want to video record my entire life.
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    Well she did say that her daddy was a drunk and a druggie and partied too much. Not sure how people can do all of that with an 11 year old but apparently she got her attention from someone that was having sex with her at that age. Pretty sure if dear old dad was focusing on the home front this probably never would have happened. She pointed the finger at the wrong person but she sounded like she was going through some sexual trauma all her own. No one noticed because the parents were too busy fighting and dad was hitting a dubbie. Seriously why should an 11 year old even know about their parents smoking like that?

    Walking in on adults having sex? Watching sex in a movie? Having sex at 11 years old? I'm really starting to wonder if her new found truth is another lie. Maybe a stockholm styndrome relapse.

    Also why did he refuse a lie detector test when he was sure of his innocence? It appeared that even his lawyer didn't think he was innocent so taking a lie detector test could prove her story.

    This story seems wild.

    Then again it could have been the mother telling the daughter what to say all this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cherryblossomsinspring View Post
    Also why did he refuse a lie detector test when he was sure of his innocence?
    If you pass a lie detector test, the prosecutor will say to the jury that lie detectors are not reliable (and they aren't) and it doesn't mean anything.

    If you fail a lie detector test (which is possible even as an innocent person), the prosecutor will say to the jury that lie detectors are irrefutable truth and absolutely proves that you're guilty. If you try to explain that they're not reliable, you'll look guilty.

    It simply never helps you.
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    Default Re: How is lying and sending an innocent man to prison, NOT a crime??

    This is something that really gets my back up. I personally know two girls who falsely accused guys of rape when we were in high school. Neither went to jail (it never got to that level), but both of them did get ganged up on and beat up pretty badly. I dropped both of them as friends shortly thereafter. It's such a nasty thing to lie about.

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    I think it really sucks for all the true rape victims out there, that she would do something like this. Statistically, less than 2% of rapes reported to the police are fraudulent, yet something like this draws a huge amount of attention to headlines like "rape victim lied", and then the other 98% of women that WERE attacked end up being doubted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_McKenna View Post
    I think it really sucks for all the true rape victims out there, that she would do something like this. Statistically, less than 2% of rapes reported to the police are fraudulent, yet something like this draws a huge amount of attention to headlines like "rape victim lied", and then the other 98% of women that WERE attacked end up being doubted.
    Yup, totally a case of a few bad apples ruining the whole bunch.

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    Default Re: How is lying and sending an innocent man to prison, NOT a crime??

    Personally why I don't date women with kids......

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    Default Re: How is lying and sending an innocent man to prison, NOT a crime??

    Well, in this case she was just 11 at the time, so it may simply be that she legally can't be held responsible in the same manner as someone who were 19 when making the accusation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Miss_McKenna View Post
    I think it really sucks for all the true rape victims out there, that she would do something like this. Statistically, less than 2% of rapes reported to the police are fraudulent, yet something like this draws a huge amount of attention to headlines like "rape victim lied", and then the other 98% of women that WERE attacked end up being doubted.
    That's another thing: the actual rate of false reports is very low, and the rate that results in convictions is even lower, but it's given so much attention when it does happen that it could create the impression that there is some sort of mass epidemic of false rape accusations being casually tossed around. Laws meant to protect that vast majority of true victims will include provisions that ensure that a victim will not be punished for coming forth, no matter what the eventual outcome, to balance out that effect.

    A child (or a person who was victimized while impaired) may have come to actually believe a version of events that's at odds with what later comes out, without there being criminal malice behind that impression. It's the justice system's (police, DA, judge and jurors) job to determine whether the evidence supporting that is reasonably credible, and same with regard to any recanting (plenty of testimony gets recanted every year w/o it helping the convict).

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