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    Is he really asking people to help him pay for the bad decisions HE made?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoX View Post
    Is he really asking people to help him pay for the bad decisions HE made?
    I'm not going to touch that with a 20 foot pole...

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    That guy ended two lives with one bullet.
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    ^What Sophia said.
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    I wish there was an "auto-like" setting that I could just have applied to all of your posts Sophia....

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    I'm not going to touch that with a 20 foot pole...
    I'm not going to touch that with someone else's 20 foot pole.

    At any rate, the media coverage ... or lack thereof ... is entertaining to say the least - from





    (snip)Tampa, Florida - It was an emotional interview for Michelle Williams.

    As a community activist and chief of staff for the New Black Panther Party, Michelle is used to addressing many issues. But when it comes to her passion in the Trayvon Martin case, she gets especially upset and tearful.(snip)

    (snip)Michelle said during that interview, "Let me tell you, the things that's about to happen, to these honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, these ---- people. It has been long overdue. My prize right now this evening ... is gonna be the bounty, the arrest, dead or alive, for George Zimmerman. You feel me?"

    Bubba addressed her saying, "Michelle, really? You are so much better than that, honey."

    "My words that I spoke were very passionate, passionate anger of an activist, of an advocate, of a leader who sat by and watched so much destruction happen. Melanie, my back is against the wall," she told us.

    Michelle is putting out an open invitation to any group - the Ku Klux Klan, black, white, mayors, cops - anyone out there, who wants to talk about keeping peace in the Martin case, she's willing to listen.

    "This whole Trayvon Martin case has been an injustice that America is watching unfold. I feel like I'm reading a Nancy Drew novel right now, because of all the twists and turns. 'Oh wait a minute, we have him here, no wait, we have him here,'" she said.

    In a candid moment during her 10 News interview, she said, "Do I want to see George Zimmerman dead? No. Do I want to see him brought to justice? Hell yes."

    Michelle assured us that she doesn't want to have anyone out there pick up a gun. "I don't want violence, I don't promote violence. That's why I told you, my words were out of anger."(snip)



    I continue to look at the bright side ... the Ruger and Smith&Wesson shares in my investment portfolio are at record highs !!!
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    Please..this is so overblown..
    don't hate the player hate the game......

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    I thought his father was rich? What happened to the money and connects?

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    here's the likely result of one of those 'connects' ...




    (snip)"God save me from my friends; I can take care of my enemies.

    That thought must be coursing through the mind of President Obama right now as his White House rigs for silent running in the murder trial of George Zimmerman.

    Obama foolishly inserted himself into this volatile case weeks ago, and injected the issue of race. Expressing empathy with the family of Trayvon Martin, Obama flashed a signal of racial solidarity:

    "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."

    Obama also implied that he shares the liberal perspective that America is a country where black kids must walk in daily fear of white racist vigilantes.

    "All of us have to do some soul-searching to figure out how does something like this happen. And that means that we examine the laws and the context for what happened, as well as the specifics of the incident."

    Translation: The death of Trayvon tells us something is wrong with America.

    To most Americans, this is a slander against their country, refuted by the statistics on interracial crime. Obama, however, buys into it.

    Angela Corey, the special prosecutor, says that the charge against Zimmerman of second-degree murder was based on evidence and not influenced by the weeks of demonstrations, demands and threats from black leaders.

    Perhaps. But from what the pubic knows, a charge of second-degree murder, which carries a sentence of 25 years to life, does not seem to stand up.

    To convict, prosecutors must convince all 12 members of a jury that not only was Zimmerman in no danger of bodily harm, he did not believe he was in danger of bodily harm. He simply killed Martin in a "depraved" state of mind.

    Nothing revealed so far seems to support that theory.

    Zimmerman saw a tall stranger, hooded and acting suspiciously. He called the cops. He did not tell them the man was black. They had to ask him whether the suspect was black, white or Hispanic.

    "He looks black," said Zimmerman.

    The CNN report that Zimmerman, on the call to the cops, used a racial slur, "(bleeping) coon," has been withdrawn. What Zimmerman said was that it was "(bleeping) cold" outside.

    Came then the fight. Two eyewitnesses say they saw Zimmerman on his back being beaten and screaming for help.

    A cop at the scene said Zimmerman had a bloody nose and a gash on the back of his head. Zimmerman's family says Trayvon banged George's head on the sidewalk. Film of Zimmerman entering the police station that night shows bruising on the back of his head.

    Trayvon was found lying face down. If Zimmerman had been on top and shot him, would not Trayvon have been found on his back?

    Zimmerman's family says Trayvon started the fight with a fist to the nose, and George went down. Trayvon is not here to tell his story. But a natural question arises:

    Why would Zimmerman, with a holstered gun to protect himself, close with and start a fistfight with a teenager half a head taller? A grown man with a gun his adversary does not know he has – would he not more likely stand some distance away, to pull it out if needed?

    The prosecutors must have discovered new evidence to indict for murder. For all of the testimony from Zimmerman's side and the eyewitnesses seems to create more than a reasonable doubt that he committed a murder.

    Where is Obama's political problem?

    With the election on, the case has begun to divide the nation along racial lines. And Obama's allies are doing it. It is Jesse Jackson and the Black Caucus crying that Trayvon was "hunted down like a rabid dog in the street," that he was "murdered and martyred," that it was a "hate crime."

    "It's a disgrace that man (Zimmerman) hasn't been shot yet," says Mike Tyson. The New Black Panther Party has put out a poster offering a $10,000 reward that reads, "Wanted: Dead or Alive."

    The face on the poster is George Zimmerman.

    Trayvon is the victim here, but George Zimmerman is beginning to look like a victim – of lynch law and mob rule.

    With the Panthers and Tyson calling for vengeance and vigilante justice, where is Attorney General Eric Holder? Out congratulating Al Sharpton for bringing political pressure on Florida to indict.

    Is this how justice is advanced in Obama's America?

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg has denounced Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law – which may be Zimmerman's defense – as "a license to murder" and an excuse for "vigilante justice."

    Bloomberg seems about to lead a crusade against the National Rifle Association and for repeal of stand-your-ground laws in the two dozen states that have enacted them.

    Given their huge emotional investment in this case, how will black leaders and black America react if Zimmerman walks?

    And how will the rest of America react to that reaction?

    And if Zimmerman, Trayvon, race, guns and stand-your-ground become voting issues this fall, how good is that for Barack Obama?

    April 14, 2012

    Patrick J. Buchanan is co-founder and editor of The American Conservative"(snip)



    ... the media circus continues !!!! ... clearly starting to involve issues of race and politics interspersed with actual facts now that previous media reports of 'phony' facts have been discredited and both 'sides' are starting to get mainstream media coverage ( thus I'll refrain from making additional posts on this topic. since the media focus is increasingly political / racial in nature )



    However, I will point out that the stock share price of Sturm Ruger Firearms can be linked almost to the day that the Zimmerman case first hit mainstream media ... which perhaps says something about how 'average' Americans are reacting !


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    Why are you posting commentary from a white supremacist and nazi sympathizer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post

    I continue to look at the bright side ... the Ruger and Smith&Wesson shares in my investment portfolio are at record highs !!!
    You think there's a bright side to a teenage boy being killed?!

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    A. in direct reply to a question about Zimmerman Senior's supposed 'connections', with author Pat Buchanan's content being free from that particular website. However it's noted that no similar objections were raised when I previously posted actual racist remarks made publicly by the New Black Panther party chief of staff. I also tried to drop further discussion of this subject now that both 'sides' are getting media exposure, which you are now apparently trying to keep alive.

    B. what's done is done - Trayvon cannot be resurrected. As to whether or not increased firearms sales in the aftermath comprises a bright side or not depends on one's personal viewpoint ( and investment portfolio )

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    I assume your quote of the Black Panther party chief of staff was meant to portray her in a negative way.

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    This whole case, tragic while it may be, is nothing but a ploy by the racists on the Left....Sharpton, Jackson, apparently Obama, the New Black Panthers, and NBC.... to try playing the race card. If the guy is guilty, he ought to be convicted. If he was defending himself, he ought to be acquitted. Either way, those five racist clowns ought to step back and let the justice system do its job without running their mouths and trying to skew perceptions. Any he appears to have been overcharged as far as Murder 2 is concerned.
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    I will admit I have mixed feelings on this. If he is guilty, throw the book at him. However, the media slant is bothering me. The media actually changed part of the calls to make it look like Zimmerman said things he did not. Also, they made Zimmerman look like an evil man and Martin like an angel, when neither case is completely accurate. Yes Zimmerman might be a bad guy, but the more I hear about Martin the more he looks like he could be a thug and gang banger and if that is the case I don't care he's dead. If he's not a gang member and was cruelly killed then yes it is sad and shameful.

    Finally, everyone is making this out to be a race thing and I don't think it is. I suspect at best it's a case of mistaken identity and at worst it's a case of a gun happy nut wanting to shoot anyone. Yes there is race killings and assaults everyday but they cut across all lines. Incidentally many years ago I was attacked by a group of black teen boys while I was minding my own business. They threw rocks at me and called me names like honky in my then neighborhood. I had to move because of thugs like them taking over my neighborhood. As a result I always laugh when people talk about how white people attack black people because I've seen just as many white kids attacked by black kids. It is NEVER right to attack anyone based on race.

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    What annoyed the hell out of me was everyone wearing 'hoodies' to 'show support'.

    But I can tell this thread is probably going to have to be closed, and probably sooner than later.

    For right now, it's being moved to Games and Puzzles, in an effort to avoid censorship. But keeping the peace here is the main priority.

    There is nothing that anyone can say on Stripperweb that will change the fact the kid is dead now. And nothing anyone can say that will magically reveal the guilt or innocence of zimmerman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    I assume your quote of the Black Panther party chief of staff was meant to portray her in a negative way.
    You don't think that having said all that portrays her in a negative way? Really?

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    Where do you get the idea that what I said doesn't imply she was portrayed in a negative way? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Where do you get the idea that what I said doesn't imply she was portrayed in a negative way? Really?
    Your spirited defense! Where else?

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    Just for the record, The New Black Panther Party and the Black Panther Party are 2 completely different organizations. The later does not associate with the former.

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    I would contribute to his defense. I don't know if he's guilty or not, but he deserves a fair trial, and how he's been portrayed in the media is just appalling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    Your spirited defense! Where else?
    How was I defending her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kandie_kitten View Post
    I would contribute to his defense. I don't know if he's guilty or not, but he deserves a fair trial, and how he's been portrayed in the media is just appalling.
    Why would you contribute to his defense? Does it matter to you that he killed an innocent person? Who said he's not going to get a fair trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Why would you contribute to his defense? Does it matter to you that he killed an innocent person? Who said he's not going to get a fair trial?
    How do you KNOW he killed an "innocent" person? Neither you nor I was on the scene at the time. There are corroborated reports out there that Martin, a 6'2" inch teenager, all "thugged out", confronted Zimmerman as he returned to his car, broke his nose, and was slamming his head to the ground . How is it you are capable of deciding who is or isn't guilty here? You are just letting your buttons be pushed by the race-baiters....Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, New Black Panthers, and NBC. Justice should be properly served in this and any other case, give it time before passing judgement.
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    Who says the guy was "innocent"? The videotape of Zimmerman in the station shows him bloodied, with damage to the back of his head. I fully believe it was an altercation that escalated out of control, to the extent Zimmerman thought his life was in danger and shot him.

    I don't believe that it is murder. Do I think Zimmerman is a saint? No, but I don't think he's an awful person who went around aiming to kill black kids.

    I live about 10 miles away from where it happened. Al Sharpton and the media have whipped this area into a crazed frenzy; there's no way in hell this guy gets a fair trial out of any jury in Seminole county.

    From editing audio to make Zimmerman sound racist to photoshopping images to make Zimmerman look like a thug and Trayvon look like a saint, it's truly appalling how this has been handled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    How do you KNOW he killed an "innocent" person?
    It's well established that Trayvon Martin did nothing more than go to the convenience store for some Skittles and iced tea.

    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    Neither you nor I was on the scene at the time. There are corroborated reports out there that Martin, a 6'2" inch teenager, all "thugged out", confronted Zimmerman as he returned to his car, broke his nose, and was slamming his head to the ground . How is it you are capable of deciding who is or isn't guilty here? You are just letting your buttons be pushed by the race-baiters....Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, New Black Panthers, and NBC. Justice should be properly served in this and any other case, give it time before passing judgement.
    Looks like you're the one playing the race card and letting your buttons be pushed by the right-wing racist race-baiters, with your talk of Trayvon Martin "all thugged out". If that's not racist, I don't know what is.

    Regardless of what happened with any type of altercation, Zimmerman should not have followed Martin, confronted him, or even got out of his vehicle. He's not a police officer. Trayvon Martin was not doing anything illegal. At least one witness has stated that the shooting was not self-defense.

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    Completely agreed. I don't know if Martin was a good kid or not but am tired of people talking how an "innocent" 17 year old was killed. If he was a gang member I have no qualms about him being killed. I despise gang members and they destroyed an area I grew up in so screw each and every one of them. Yes, most of them appear to be "innocent" teenagers but they aren't. I don't know if he was into a gang but on the other hand none of us really know how good of a kid he was either. Want to read about a truly good kid who lost his life (and who was a black teen to boot), read about Blair Holt. This was an innocent kid killed by a gang member. Yet because it was a black kid killed by a black kid it didn't get the attention this did.

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