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    Default New Earnings page on SM

    Have you guys seen this? I don't know if I like it yet or not. It's... different.

    But, the question about this is, There is a link on the right side that says 'pay adjustments'. It has me curious as to what they're going to be adjusting. Any thoughts?

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    oh I dont like the sound of this.." adjustments..."
    Im scared.......

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    it seems a bit more complicated to me, and i dont like that it doesnt show the average rating for the day or anything about ratings so i have to click on each custy to see who rated me what. Annoying xD

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    I hadn't even seen that the ratings were gone yet!

    Yeah, that is a bit annoying.

    And i'm scared too fridays... I don't like the sound of adjustments one bit!

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    ARGH!! WHHHHHHY?!?!?!

    *pauses for composure*



    It didn't need fixing. Especially not if that change makes it actually more complicated.

    Why they decided this would be a good change is beyond me. Sure, I'll get used to it. (Looks like they're not really going to give us an option on that front after the "limited time" expires)... but just... why? They've overcomplicated it and generally made it look a lot... colder and crappier.




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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    It seems they have sent out a mail explaining what changes they made. In the adjustments section they are showing it as being 'additional compensation' and 'Wire Fee Reimbursement'

    Still scary to me!

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    'pay adjustments' is scary, Hope it is to adjust a wrong/ missing payment not chargebacks, they should handle chargeback with their 65%
    Last edited by naughtycamgirl; 04-24-2012 at 02:41 PM.

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    My best guess on the "pay adjustments" is this:

    I noticed that nearly ALL of my checks were posting as 1-4 cents different from what my earnings page was showing me. So it would show one amount on my "earnings" page and a different amount 1-4 cents LESS on my "payment history" page. I found this discrepancy in 17 weeks of my checks since I started on SM last summer. After talking with support, they determined there was a "rounding error" in their database. And that they were working on this matter to have it resolved quickly and correct the "adjustments" to my pay.

    So that's my best guess. Something like these discrepancies being reimbursed would show up on this page. I doubt they created it for this sole purpose lol but you get my point. I'd like to know how I can get "additional compensation" and fees reimbursed tho! LOL! I mean look at the "example" image.... $714 of "additional compensation"!!! Sign me up for that!

    I seriously doubt they are going to start making us cover chargebacks, so I wouldn't go thinking that just yet.

    I kind of like the new page, actually.
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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    Hmm... Well, "compensation" definitions:

    1. Something, typically money, awarded to someone as a recompense for loss, injury, or suffering.
    2. The action or process of making such an award: "the compensation of victims".
    3. The money received by an employee from an employer as a salary or wages
    4. Something that counterbalances or makes up for an undesirable or unwelcome state of affairs
    5. The process of concealing or offsetting a psychological difficulty by developing in another direction


    Now, I'm seeing the Wire Fee Reimbursement on the SM message stands at $20 - the same cost as that of a bank wire transfer...
    The Additional Compensation section stands at over $700...
    Soooo, for now I'm running with this: SM are are reimbursing those who use the bank wire function by way of compensation. Like, as in, they give us back the $20 from all bank wires we've had. Ever. ^_^


    Wishful thinking, what?


    No, but really, now, as long as it's not ANYTHING to do with charge-backs, it's fine.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Incantatious View Post
    1. Something, typically money, awarded to someone as a recompense for loss, injury, or suffering.
    I would like additional compensation for the suffering I endure every time someone tells me "open ass bb" or any other slew of phrases free chat idiots use. *cries*
    xoxo ~ Sarah





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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    I would like additional compensation for the suffering I endure every time someone tells me "open ass bb" or any other slew of phrases free chat idiots use. *cries*
    Yes!! With every use of the phrase "open ass bb" or "open tits bb", $20 will be awarded. With an additional $10 awarded for every single time "bb" is typed to us in free chat!

    I have to admit this.. When I first saw "Payment Adjustments" I immediately envisioned a slider bar, by which you can just choose your payout percentage. 100% of my earnings plz SM kthnx!




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    They are going to award us a "bb bonus" I can just feel it.........
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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    yea can't tell what ratings are and average rating.. i count on that to make sure I am on point!! and dn't go on down on the ratings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous camgirl View Post
    yea can't tell what ratings are and average rating.. i count on that to make sure I am on point!! and dn't go on down on the ratings...
    This info is still available if you go to "My Users > My Ratings". It will show you how many ratings, what the ratings are, and what the average is.
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    I loved to see the ratings there. I open it after every single show while dressing up to check my ratings. I have a rating-fetish...

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    Yea this is true but it's not the same days as the pay period..


    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    This info is still available if you go to "My Users > My Ratings". It will show you how many ratings, what the ratings are, and what the average is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous camgirl View Post
    Yea this is true but it's not the same days as the pay period..
    Mine show the same days... you can adjust the time frame. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean lol
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    really?? gotta check this out then..

    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    Mine show the same days... you can adjust the time frame. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean lol

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    Wait--I can't see who rated me anymore.

    Or am I just looking at this wrong? I can see my ratings, and what the averages are, but I can't see WHO rated me...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPinkCupcake View Post
    Wait--I can't see who rated me anymore.

    Or am I just looking at this wrong? I can see my ratings, and what the averages are, but I can't see WHO rated me...?
    If you open the details, you have everyone there, who you had private with, and there, you click on the name, then the separate window pops up with the notes yadayada, and on the Sessions tab you can see all your sessions and the ratings if they were given. Blah... It is so much harder to satisfy my rating-fetish this way!!! I loved to just open the earnings and see the number of ratings there. I can't go on without checking if I got ratings and what they were! Zomg, I'll have to keep another SM window open to keep up with the ratings page..

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    Of all the things that need to be fixed at Streamate, this is what they decide to fix?

    Figures, it wasn't fucking broken the first place. (*sighs*)

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    Additional compensations might be from Goldclubs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by EternalRose View Post
    it seems a bit more complicated to me, and i dont like that it doesnt show the average rating for the day or anything about ratings so i have to click on each custy to see who rated me what. Annoying xD
    Yes, I was going to mention this. Don't like it at all. I want it changed back right away!

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    Yep, so glad I didn't work yesterday. This reminds me of the time they decided to change the font on the Blacklist page and the site went down. Totally didn't seem worth it... until they added the option of accessing the customer's profile from the block list (that didn't used to be an option).

    So at first I was like "yeah, that was totally worth putting the site out of commission for, a different font, awesome," then it was apparent that the "font change" was just one change on the way to the major change.

    My first response to this new change was "what's the point?" and I also thought "figures that they fix something that isn't broken." But then I got to thinking about it. They added the "My Ratings" page a while back. Now they have the "Earnings Summary," and the old earnings page is going away. So... what are we working up to? I am also worried about that.

    So far this only means that I have to keep yet another window open. And yes, Sarah, I noticed that my checks have also been off by pennies. I figured it was a conversion thing because of being in Cyprus, but I don't think that's it. The "rounding" explanation makes sense to me. Sometimes payment for 30 sec worth of a show is 1 cent less than other times, depending on how many minutes a guy was in, so that makes sense.

    I assume "other compensation" is for gold club, and for cammodels link stuff. If they start doing chargebacks, they should pay us at least 50%. God, I hope that's not the reason for all this. I'm going to tell myself it's for reasons of accountability and go with that until I see otherwise.

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    Default Re: New Earnings page on SM

    Forgot one more thing... the ratings page.

    Mine is also different from my pay period, and it cannot be changed to match up with the pay period. This pay period starts on 4/22. The 7 Day report starts on 4/18. The 2 Day report starts on 4/23. If I wanted it to line up with this pay period, I would change it to 4/22 which is not an option.

    Some weeks it may line up for you if it's a certain day of the week or if you didn't work on a certain day.

    The only way that I can see, so far, how all this makes sense, is if SM is going to tell us exactly how they're determining our placement and they're making it easier for us to see what they're looking at. The first thing on the new Earnings Statement is Total paid sessions, Total chat time, and Total earned. That info is repeated again, in bold, at the bottom of the page. Why change it to look more prominent? And then to give us a separate page for our ratings? That makes me wonder. I suppose the only thing left to do, if that's their plan, is to do the math for us on the Earnings Summary and show us our average session length and average amount earned per minute of chat time... thereby showing us how good we are by how long we can keep a guy in the room and how many guys we can get to pay us at once.

    Idk. Just a thought.

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