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    Crossfingers alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    http://www.fetishmodels.com/

    looks too good to be true. when you try to sign up to be a model they want all of your info up front ss number id and everything. they ask you to set your prices. apparently you get 50 percent. is this a studio of some sort for SM? i didnt know if it could be if you had your own site built around it. im totally going to jump on it if its safe its my perfect niche from the looks of it, i just want to know if anyone knows anything about it.
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    Default Re: alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    I don't think they're part of SM at all. I think they build the model's paysite and clip stores. I'd be interested in learning more about this as well (like if it's a no competition place)

    Wow, only 65 likes on the Facebook page, that can't be good o.O lol



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    Default Re: alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    You might want to PM glamour rouge or roast about this site - I cant remember the details but I dont think it was positive

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    Default Re: alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    There are a few discussions on it - just search for fetishmodels without the .com and it should bring them up for you. I do notice that their twitter has been completely inactive since January - not a good sign. 50% of nothing is nothing so many of these small sites seem to die.


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    they must have a new one laurie, i just saw a post from them, which is how i found them on twitter.

    could you post the thread links, i just did 2 searches and didnt see them. much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crispy View Post
    they must have a new one laurie, i just saw a post from them, which is how i found them on twitter.

    could you post the thread links, i just did 2 searches and didnt see them. much appreciated.
    yeah i had a bit of trouble getting it to show in search.

    Here are my search results:

    http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sea...earchid=126309


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    it says sorry no matches.

    i signed up for them, ill preport back its got such a nice web 20 look to it and its my specific niche, i would kick myself if i dont give it a try. its not like i have much to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessLuna View Post
    I don't think they're part of SM at all. I think they build the model's paysite and clip stores. I'd be interested in learning more about this as well (like if it's a no competition place)

    l
    your right i thought they might be an affiliate but they arent.

    it looks like by going to the cam site that theres not a ton of girls yet, but i signed up to be a customer and i think ths may be a no free chat if you dont want to site. if thats the case, holy hell, im on it.

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    Default Re: alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    I would be careful with these guys, my friend was recruited by them and said they were very unprofessional and have no traffic. Also a while back they commented on a thread asking how to get a model's established traffic to their site... needless to say that got deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsani View Post
    Also a while back they commented on a thread asking how to get a model's established traffic to their site... needless to say that got deleted.
    Wait, this fetishmodels site asked how to get model's traffic??



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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessLuna View Post
    Wait, this fetishmodels site asked how to get model's traffic??
    Yeah they were asking for tips for how to get traffic and we gave them tips and they were like "oh thats great but we just want model's traffic. their exact traffic. how do we get it?"

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    Default Re: alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    haha wow you have to bekidding me. well we will see its a shame becuase the looks of the site is great. i will report back.

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    Yeah that's what's sad about it the site looks great but the traffic and professionalism just isn't there. Let us know how it goes but do be careful.

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    Default Re: alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    soooooo.......

    That thread kinda went into a dark abyss of misunderstanding.

    I don't want to dig up that whole mess, but I in short, we were looking for feedback. We are service providers and as such need to keep our ear to the ground and make sure we listen to models and their needs. I see models using niteflirt/wix/wordpress/blogger/etc etc, and wanted to know what tools we could offer to promote themselves better. We try our best to match models needs, but sometimes it helps to just ask. Obviously we don't expect "free" traffic, so we have setup our system where models get an extra 25% on sales made from said traffic. A lot of models send traffic to there streamate profile and don't get paid, while we are looking to compensate you fairly. We are obviously pushing our own traffic. Models are usually on the guard when it comes to program/site admins so I understand the apprehension, I'm hoping that our work can over come this.

    Anyways the process for the model site is as follows:

    Signup for a model account on fetishmodels.com or fetishgirls.com (leads to the same place)

    We need at lest 40 clips/videos in order to consider the site

    Send us an e-mail and we'll discuss if it makes sense to do a site.

    Thats kinda it, at lest the general gist. Here is more info for those interested, and just to be clear, we never charge the model.

    http://www.fetishmodels.com/model-paysite.php

    Free chat isn't required, so if you want to split cam on another site and then come to us when you get a private you can certainly do so.

    As always feel free to DM me any questions as i don't want to hijack the thread any further (sorry crispy) or e-mail works just as well [email protected]

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    Default Re: alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    It has been hard for a few people to get you guys to answer emails/IMs - so, some of the questions I know people have had are:

    -What privacy protection is offered on the wishlist feature
    -Does the performer retain copyright if they sell clips through your site
    -What are the payment options
    -I personally cant find this anywhere and given this is a fetish-oriented site, can you say what is against TOS in terms of model performances?
    -Are all private sessions recorded for re-sale or can the model make that optional
    -What percentage is taken off of the "CashFetish" part of your site?
    -Do you offer CB protection on any of your sites?

    Itd probably be easier if this is all answered in one thread as there isnt a Model FAQs on your site... and you're right here.





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    I see payout options are:

    "• Payouts are made twice a month on the 1st and 16th by check, direct ach bank deposit, wire transfer, paxum or payoneer instant payment."

    so you don't have to repeat yourself, I didnt see it at first. Sorry about that.

    My question about CashFetish and its payout percentage is basically - can you explain the 40-50% revenue share? Does that apply for all sites? And what marks the difference between 40% and 50%? What is the model's referral percentage? Also can a model just be listed on CashFetish instead of on FetishGirls or she cannot have one without the other?

    The scenario I'm picturing if you have someone into FinDomination who refers her clients to your site to pay her daily, what percentage payout would she then receive





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    Default Re: alternative/fetish get your own cam site through fetishmodels.com???

    I'm pretty responsive to e-mail but I'll go ahead and answer these questions as best as i can here:

    -What privacy protection is offered on the wishlist feature
    As noted above, there are no "physical" gifts we just payout 50% of what ever the client "purchased". No mailing address; po boxes etc.
    -Does the performer retain copyright if they sell clips through your site
    We need to update our content agreement so this is a little clearer but yes. It's under a non-exclusive agreement, which means you can do what you want with it, and the content remains yours, we just licenses it.
    -What are the payment options
    As you pointed out:

    • Payouts are made twice a month on the 1st and 16th by check, direct ach bank deposit, wire transfer, paxum or payoneer instant payment.

    -I personally cant find this anywhere and given this is a fetish-oriented site, can you say what is against TOS in terms of model performances?
    This bit is a little tricky since billers/processors keep this info from even us, but in short most people know what's not cool:
    Blood,incest,bestiality, poop, etc etc. Those are 100% not allowed the rest is kinda case by case.
    -Are all private sessions recorded for re-sale or can the model make that optional
    The only way a private session is recorded is if the MODEL chooses to do so and is on a per private chat basis.
    -What percentage is taken off of the "CashFetish" part of your site?
    Everything throughout the sites is 40-50. Any tips on fetish girls, any sales made on cash fetish, etc etc.
    -Do you offer CB protection on any of your sites?
    The short answer is not the kind of protection you are probably hoping for. Yes we make sure every transaction goes through a fraud check, but if a charge back comes in, it's deducted from us, the model and affiliate. The issue is financial domination/fetish in general has a much higher risk level of fraud, both by members but unfortunately models as well (some not all). The flip side is that there is a very real incentive on our part to keep charge backs to an absolute min, since if we don't we start getting serious fines (on top of the charge back costs which already suck)

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    My question about CashFetish and its payout percentage is basically - can you explain the 40-50% revenue share?
    someone purchases a $100 hand bag for a model, the model will receive $40-$50 into her account (roughly)
    Does that apply for all sites?
    Yes, FetishGirls, CashFetish, and a Fetishnetwork.com site.
    And what marks the difference between 40% and 50%?
    It's a tiered system, but for models at lest for the time being we are defaulting at 50%
    What is the model's referral percentage?
    There are two programs
    FetishModels:
    if a model signs up under your referral code, you get $100 once they qualify (I believe the current number they have to hit is $300.00)
    FetishGirls/FetishNetwork:
    Receive 25% of any sale. how would this work?
    member comes in to fetishgirls.com via your referal, you get 25% of what ever he loads on to his account (lets say he loads 100 you get 25)
    He then chats with you and spends his 100 you'd get 50 (at 50% rev share)

    you come out with $75.00 or 75%
    Also can a model just be listed on CashFetish instead of on FetishGirls or she cannot have one without the other?
    an account for both fetishgirls and cashfetish is created at the same time, so at the moment there isn't a way to have a profile on just one site.


    The scenario I'm picturing if you have someone into FinDomination who refers her clients to your site to pay her daily, what percentage payout would she then receive
    Thats a scenario we see ourselves in as well. It would be between 40-75% depending on referrals and when the model signs up.

    Hope those are clear and keep the questions coming!

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    Thanks

    So at the moment, 50% is the payout? Is there a plan to drop it? Or will models who join now be grandfathered in, like they get a veterans payout vs a 40% payout. The variability is a bit confusing but other sites seem to do the same thing with these kinds of variable payout structures, so I was curious - thanks for explaining that and the referral percentages.


    "This bit is a little tricky since billers/processors keep this info from even us, but in short most people know what's not cool:"

    Who are the most people? Customers? IModels? It isnt in the customer TOS. Are you assuming customer common knowledge?

    You may want to figure out your own TOS in terms of obscenity responsibilities and stress what is allowed and what isn't to customers instead of assuming that they know. Even if they "know" the responsibility (liability, not just in terms of billing) is on the site and the performer. Your TOS isnt determined by the payment processors, that's on you and your legal consults. A bunch of fetish sites do this well without it looking punitive or harsh.

    Generally fetish customers are quite polite compared to the "masses" but their priority isnt common sense, theyre customers... so theyre priority is the fulfillment of fantasy. You didn't mention urine or ageplay or vomiting or live crushing.... all of which have very devoted followings. I mean with a name like "Fetish" you may want to be explicit and not assume. Common sense is not so common especially when liabilities are involved.

    Best of luck with your site, thanks for my answering my questions.
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    I agree completely and WHen a model goes live to chat there is a disclaimer that is more specific then what i put up, but in short any list would be outdated and incorrect the moment we put it up! This is a bigger problem with how these things are dealt with in the online space, but thats a different issue. We cover our bases and update our TOS (which should be live today/tomorrow) with said info and our FAQ that we will be building out will grow over time. By not cool i mean illegal and to list everything that is illegal to do on cam would be quite a task. Even then though billers will have there own rules that extend beyond just whats legal and involves what the credit card companies are comfortable processing with. for example, poop is a no go, but urine can be ok in a certain context.

    In short processors be crazy and customers even crazier. We try to have a space as open as possible, but still in line with what acceptable. We will however be more explicit with whats 100% not OK though to just by pass those problems all together.

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    gotcha

    lol processors and customers be crazy - ha, we agree.





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    well im going to give it a try guys, if you do plz use my affiliate link at the top, id appreciate it. i need to get my paperwork in but any no free chat site is worh a look IMO.

    the sites owner has answered pretty fairly and reasonably. i think most sites start out a little rocky, think about when you first started camming. arent you a lot better now then your first months?

    who knows maybe im being too optamistic about this but im gonna try it. i dont have that much content so no personal site for me yet. it hink thats a lot to ask a model to have up front but thats just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FetishModels View Post
    We need at lest 40 clips/videos in order to consider the site

    Send us an e-mail and we'll discuss if it makes sense to do a site.
    Wow, seriously?

    Thats a hell of a lot of content you are asking for. Are you wanting the content to be all uploaded and viewed by your staff before even considering building a site?

    also, does this all have to be fetish content?

    Thanks for responding to our questions. Always a good sign when a site gives quick clear answers.


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    I don't really think 40 clips is unreasonable for a paysite. I can't see a member paying 30 dollars a month for a site that has less than that. Most of the top C$S ladies have at least that. My goal for clip shooting this month is 50 so it doesn't seem that bad to me.
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    Thats a hell of a lot of content you are asking for. Are you wanting the content to be all uploaded and viewed by your staff before even considering building a site?
    Yeah it's certainly a sizable amount of content especially if your starting from zero but with some exceptions thats really the bare minimum for us to consider it. We've been doing adult sites for years and can say the amount of content directly correlates to how well a site does. That isn't ALWAYS the case and if you have less then 40 but are seriously working on getting there then we'd love to hear from you and see what we can do. That being said, you can crank out 40 videos in a week if your setup for it.

    The short answer is that the only way we can do this is if we can pay everyones bills, both the models and our owns, so we really focus on what we know will work. That said we are very flexible if a good opportunity arrives. Maybe your a banging cam girl who is looking to brand yourself? We'd certainly consider it then!

    does this all have to be fetish content?
    Yes or else you can't really promote it. That said pretty much anything falls into a fetish, even the most bizarre out there never would of thunk it things (hair washing apparently is a thing and boy was i surprised)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rina View Post
    I don't really thin 40 clips is unreasonable for a paysite. I can't see a member paying 30 dollars a month for a site that has less than that. Most of the top C$S ladies have at least that. My goal for clip shooting this month is 50 so it doesn't seem that bad to me.
    Rina has it to the T. Would you pay your cable service it just had 6 shows, at $30.00 a month? Members are so inundated with content all the time, they expect a certain amount and 40 is the cut off point. Alot of models on clips for sale have hundreds of clips. Didn't happen in a day, but do it every day for a year and you'll see the number rise.

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