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    Default If you could only have one of the two, what would it be?

    I'm wondering if you could only have one or the other but not both, what would you rather have? I've danced in 2 different clubs which are complete opposites. One was very upscale, catered to mostly travelers, had a lot of rules, very strict about scheduling, etc. This other club is very different. This club is more of a stripclub joint, not a total dive but not upscale at all. This place has super super nice management, very lenient with scheduling, willing to work with you around your school schedule and there are many girls at this one that used to work at the other one, the strict one. I've heard all those girls saying they like it much better at this one because there's not so many rules. The other difference I've noticed is the difference in clientele! This club seems to attract more of the blue collar types who are local regulars.

    The club itself isn't what I dislike, it's their clientele. I'm not trying to sound like I'm little Miss Snooty pants or anything, I just can relate with the more business like, educated type. The rules at the other place never bothered me. So anyway, my question is would you rather work in a club that had super nice management when you could basically work when you want but you thought their customer base sucked ass? Or would you rather work in a club that was very strict about scheduling, about what you wore & what you did but you liked their customer base? For me, I'd rather like the customers than management because it's the customers who I spend majority of my time with. Anyway, just curious about any of your experiences.
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    Default Re: If you could only have one of the two, what would it be?

    I'd work at the club where I make the most money. The end.
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    Default Re: If you could only have one of the two, what would it be?

    I agree whenever you make most.

    Plus its the cliente that is bothering you, pick the upscale one. Because thats an added factor that mgiht cause stress in the end. Plus at the upscale club may be more open with the scheuduling ones you worked there.
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    I think you can work your school schedule around working. I try to make sure I'm only in class 3 days a week, so I can at least work 3-4 shifts comfortably at a place that does have strict scheduling, because I make more there.

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    I would work where I could make the most money in less time and less stress.
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    Default Re: If you could only have one of the two, what would it be?

    Quote Originally Posted by chanzep View Post
    I would work where I could make the most money in less time and less stress.
    ^This. And, also where I felt more comfortable (i.e. not working in a dive, even if the $ is good, if it seems unsafe. Or, if the drive/travel time to and from the club was a lot longer to one than the other).

    However, I do understand where you are comming from; I think most of us have our "niche" or prefered clientele.

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    Default Re: If you could only have one of the two, what would it be?

    IMHO, the 'upscale' club also offers 'intangible' benefits that are worth 'something' above and beyond a cold cash comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    IMHO, the 'upscale' club also offers 'intangible' benefits that are worth 'something' above and beyond a cold cash comparison.
    Thata a bit vague for you Melonie
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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    Honestly, that's the only way I can interpret it. I'm sure awhile ago the upscale clubs were guaranteed to have better earnings and better working environment but it's not true now. Upscale management seems to recognize that girls will work there regardless of whether they are making minimum wage and being treated like shit just so they can have the status symbol of working at the best club in the area.
    Exactly! So many girls around here are like "if you're not at hustler or gold, you're a ho". Like um, by mainstream society, every dancer is considered a ho. So many SF girls really grind my gears.

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    Umm you do sound snooty. If I'm making money I don't give a fuck. It's your job to be what the customers want, not the other way around. Unless you're in unsafe surroundings it shouldn't matter.
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    Default Re: If you could only have one of the two, what would it be?

    Depends what else I was doing with my life. If I had another job (like I do now) and was just stripping on weekends/holidays for the extra cash, the more relaxed club would suit me better. If I was taking stripping as a career, I would choose the more upscale club.
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    i think that was a nice way of saying "hanging around trash tends to rub off".

    Umm you do sound snooty. If I'm making money I don't give a fuck. It's your job to be what the customers want, not the other way around. Unless you're in unsafe surroundings it shouldn't matter.
    This was what I was trying to politely 'hint around' about ... a fired crackhead dancer letting loose a shotgun blast in the club dressing room, police showing up at my house the next morning to see if you knew anything about the guy who was beaten up / nearly killed outside the club, customers trying to 'finger' me during a lapdance while my back was turned to them, being ( bogusly ) swept up in a club bust because a few dancers had been providing indiscreet 'extras', being interrogated by state police investigators to see what I knew about a felony crime committed by the clubowner ( who wound up later being sentenced to 10 years ), etc. Been all of those places, and it was worth 'something' to me not to have to keep going back !

    Nothing even coming close to those incidents ever happened while working at an 'upscale' club. Forgive me if this comes off as snooty, but that sort of s#!t DOES matter to me ... even if I could have earned significantly more money by continuing at any of those other clubs !


    Upscale management seems to recognize that girls will work there regardless of whether they are making minimum wage and being treated like shit just so they can have the status symbol of working at the best club in the area.
    occasionally true, unfortunately ... and part of the reason that I decided to 'retire' from live dancing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leogirl876 View Post
    I'm wondering if you could only have one or the other but not both, what would you rather have? I've danced in 2 different clubs which are complete opposites. One was very upscale, catered to mostly travelers, had a lot of rules, very strict about scheduling, etc. This other club is very different. This club is more of a stripclub joint, not a total dive but not upscale at all. This place has super super nice management, very lenient with scheduling, willing to work with you around your school schedule and there are many girls at this one that used to work at the other one, the strict one. I've heard all those girls saying they like it much better at this one because there's not so many rules. The other difference I've noticed is the difference in clientele! This club seems to attract more of the blue collar types who are local regulars.

    The club itself isn't what I dislike, it's their clientele. I'm not trying to sound like I'm little Miss Snooty pants or anything, I just can relate with the more business like, educated type. The rules at the other place never bothered me. So anyway, my question is would you rather work in a club that had super nice management when you could basically work when you want but you thought their customer base sucked ass? Or would you rather work in a club that was very strict about scheduling, about what you wore & what you did but you liked their customer base? For me, I'd rather like the customers than management because it's the customers who I spend majority of my time with. Anyway, just curious about any of your experiences.
    I don't think this sounds snooty at ALL. If you're educated and live a very different lifestyle, it can be more difficult to connect with blue collar clientele. I personally make more money at upscale clubs for this reason. I have more of an upscale look, provide more intelligent conversation, and more upscale company. If that sounds snooty, then you're in the wrong business. People have to be honest about such things in the sex industry (the same way we're honest, to a degree, about the importance of racial profiling in our customers as a moneymaking strategy).

    If the money you're making is similar in both clubs, I'd go with the upscale one. Having a schedule is a great motivator to get your ass into work when you don't feel like it, and rules are there to keep troublemakers in the white lines (which I love).

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    Default Re: If you could only have one of the two, what would it be?

    Is the upscale one willing to work around your school schedule? You can show them proof, so they can work with you. I know you said they're strict with schedules but if you're a student or a full time employee at a regular job, I'd think they can work with you here. No?

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    I don't know if you mentioned school or a straight job but right now my priority is school and I work at my club purely because they don't require a schedule. If your priority right now is maximizing your earning potential go where you are making the best money.

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    Default Re: If you could only have one of the two, what would it be?

    Really if you're more comfortable at the upscale club though, go there. Basically in SF it's either deal with asshole management and bitchy girls at a nice club, or guys wanting extras at the other clubs. It's picking between two people. I'm ok with asshole management because I've worked enough minimum wage jobs with the same thing and learned how to quietly deal, and I'm ok with bitchy girls because I've had to deal with those all through school (including college!!!), but some girls do a lot better dealing with skeezy customers, and that stresses me out too much at this point in my life. There's no one answer for every person, you're doing a job most girls can't do so you should be doing which ever one makes you more comfortable. Don't force yourself to work at a club you don't enjoy, you'll burn out faster, and that's losing more money than just going to a club that has more earning potential.
    School wise, next semester maybe try to work your schedule around dancing. It helps you do good in school and make money. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayATee View Post
    Umm you do sound snooty. If I'm making money I don't give a fuck. It's your job to be what the customers want, not the other way around. Unless you're in unsafe surroundings it shouldn't matter.
    I did forget to mention that the money there wasn't that great. I had 1 above average night, 2 below average nights and 1 that was insulting! I left with $5! The sad thing I was grateful that I wasn't oweing them money, it was horrible. I felt like a naked babysitter to a bunch of dumb asses but the difference is babysitter's don't get naked and they take home more money. I've made the decision to not go back there. When you're getting the dreadful, sick to your stomach feeling thinking of going back to work, that's when to not go back. If I was making really good money then I'd suck it up. If the upscale club rehires me, I'm going there, even if I have to work school around work. If they don't rehire me, then I have no idea what I'm gonna do.
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    I'm glad you've made a decision

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