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    Hey everyone,
    So glad I found this website! I have zero experience in webcamming but I’m seriously interested
    I’ve done some research the last couple of days and the only thing holding me back is the fear of someone finding out about it. I’m currentIy writing my master thesis and about to graduate. It is very important to me to stay anonymous so I won’t have any trouble relating to background checks or stuff like that when applying for jobs in the near future. So for me, one of the most important features of webcamsites is the ability to block visitors from certain countries. However, I remember reading on one topic that this feature doesn’t function well on MSC.. The thing that I don’t like about streammate is that they make records of your webcam activities andalso own the rights to this. I would freak out if I would see myself on awebsite like yourporn! For these reasons I think I’m going to go with live jasmine..What do you think about this choice regarding anonymity?
    From what I understood, I have to make pictures of myself with my ID. Is this safe? I understand I might sound like some paranoid freak to many of you but this is just very important stuff to me before actually diving into this adventure.. Hope to hear your opinions and any suggestions are more than welcome..
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    I'm sorry Bella but what ever site you go to you will be outed sooner or later, maybe not by the site itself but certainly by a punter. If you really don't want to get found out then caming is not for you.
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    Depending on how 'touchy' the nature of your perspective future employers may be, keep in mind that an FBI level background check is already going to turn up 1099 webcam earnings payment records listing your name and SS# from SM and most other major webcam hosts, thus outing your work in the 'adult' industry. And while the FBI has image recognition capability already, a few years from now, the use of image recognition technology is also likely to be extremely widespread ... meaning that ANY prospective employer can take your picture when you submit a future job application, and have a service bot sweep the internet for other pictures potentially matching the facial biometrics of your picture as submitted by that prospective employer. Thus screencaps of yourself grabbed by SM and other major webcam hosts, that are in turn reposted for advertising purposes on adult 'tube' sites etc., may wind up being included in future background check reports returned to prospective employers.

    With an unemployment situation where some 50% of new college graduates are unable to find work in their chosen field, and with a significant number of unemployed previous graduates who may also have real world work experience also seeking jobs, with very few exceptions, it is fair to say that prospective employers will have no shortage of prospective job applicants to choose from. As such, prospective employers are highly likely to perform increasingly thorough background checks on future job applicants. And with every new employee related gov't regulation, from mandatory employee health insurance coverage to higher employee disability insurance premiums to higher employee unemployment insurance premiums, it will become even more expensive for employers who do decide to hire a new worker that they must subsequently 'let go' ( for whatever reason ) ... resulting in employer costs for post-discharge health insurance coverage, unemployment payments, disability payments etc. for the 'let go' employee - plus a fresh round of advertising, background checks, interviews etc. to replace that 'let-go' employee. Thus future pre-employment screening is only going to become more stringent than it already is !

    Adult webcam work is 'adult' industry work ... pure and simple. Where personnel managers are concerned, there is little differentiation between 'adult' industry work being at long distance ( webcam ), up close ( stripping ), or intimately close ( escorts ). A discovered previous history of 'adult' industry work that was not disclosed on a job application will usually cause the personnel manager to 'deep six' that job application. On the flip side, up front disclosure of previous 'adult' work on the job application will also often cause the personnel manager to 'deep six' that job application.

    So to amplify the previous poster's point, given that anything posted on the internet is 'forever' these days, working as a camgirl immediately creates a risk that the girl's work in the 'adult' industry will not be kept secret from prospective future employers. And this is particularly the case where those prospective employers are 'touchy' about employee history ... i.e. a profession that involves working with other people's bodies ( medicine, law enforcement ), other people's money ( retail, banking, accounting, brokerage, government ) and especially other people's children ( medicine, education ). If your chosen field involves any of these 'touchy' professions, a great deal of forethought is warranted before deciding to cam.
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    Being outted is the risk you have to take.

    In my experience and from what I have been told - a guy doesn't like a "fake" cam girl - they understand our secrecy to a point, but once they get the hint, you will lose your customers and your gigs because you won't make anything.

    As far as keeping your personal information on the DL - you can totally do that. It's a good thing to do this because you can be your "alter ego" at the same time. Many girls use different names, say they are from different places and many other things.

    Personally, I suggest that if you are interested in the cam world - it's something you shouldn't be ashamed of. A job is a job, no matter which way you look at it. A naked woman is a beautiful thing and we are all capitalizing on that. Example - my family supports me fully on what I do. As far as broadcasting it to my friends - I do not unless they ask me which I have no issues completely outting myself to them. But I don't broadcast it all over social networking where my personal life is either.

    It's not for everyone - because if you thought guys were disgusting, you will see a brand new side of them you didn't think was possible so you will need to have a thick skin and strong stomach. Also, I would surely read more here about the camming profession - especially this thread - http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sho...-For-Cam-Girls
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    Thanks for your honest reply Missy,
    Thats too bad..
    What do you mean by a punter? (Sorry, Im not a native English ;-) )
    I wouldnt really mind if some random guy at the other side of the world recorded me and kept this for himself if that is what you mean..
    The 2 things I mainly worry about is ending up on websites like youporn, having someone I know find out (living in my country, which I should be able to block according to livejasmin).
    Do you also think these worries are relevant?
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    Thanks to you too Missmafia,
    You are absolutely right; I schoudnt be ashamed! Webcam models do not harm anyone and make an honest living..
    Nice to hear that you receive such a good support from your family.
    Unfortunately, I' would have to keep it a secret since my family and friends are very conservative.. And Im afraid to waste my future job opportunities if I dont.

    Your elaborate answer is great Melonie,
    I dont live in the US but in my country we are dealing with the same unemployment issues so I can definately relate to your post.
    My eyes are tired and my brain is filled with all this new information..

    I'll give everything a second thought and going to sleep right now so I can think about it with a fresh and clean mind tomorrow.
    Take care!

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    It's quite possible that you could end up on a popular tube site.
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    Its been said and said and said....but it never hurts to say it again!

    If you are going to be a webcam model, go into it as though you are going to be found out by EVERYONE. You probably won't. You could very conceivably go through the rest of your life with never being "outed", not showing up on background checks, no employer, landlord, or family member ever knowing. But it is far, far better to go into it after having considered the worst, because then you will be prepared for it.

    If you come into the ADULT industry assuming that you can remain anonymous, and then someone finds out and you lose your job/apartment/relationship with family, you are screwed. If you come in assuming that the worst will happen, and figure out how you will deal with it, if the worst does happen, you have a plan, and it isn't this devastating surprise event!
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    No matter what site you work on they own the rights to your shows and they can and will put them on the net or give snippets to affiliate marketers to put on the web to attract clients. When you sign a contract with live jasmin or any other site you are agreeing to this. So it is going to be a possibility no mater which site you choose.
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    Oh, and as for your question about ID - although there is a VERY slim chance of a very experienced hacker getting into the company system and digging them up, that is incredibly unlikely. It is about the same as the likelihood of getting your identity stolen just by using the internet in general, so I wouldn't worry about it.

    And any site that DOESN'T request ID is an issue - these are NOT reputable sites, and you don't want to work for them. Every decent site will request ID and a photo to ensure that you are of age and who you say you are.
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    If you're worried about being found out, you don't need to be camming. period...I suggest dancing instead





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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaMystery View Post
    I wouldnt really mind if some random guy at the other side of the world recorded me and kept this for himself if that is what you mean..
    The 2 things I mainly worry about is ending up on websites like youporn, having someone I know find out (living in my country, which I should be able to block according to livejasmin).
    Do you also think these worries are relevant?
    The problem is that, they don't keep it to themselves. At least hardly any of them. They also share us on forums and sooner or later if not the original guy, but someone else will upload it to some porn sites. The non-nude ones are also making it to youtube.
    Look up these sites, and the masturbatin videos. Streamate is not behind all of them. It's the guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missymissdemeanour
    I'm sorry Bella but what ever site you go to you will be outed sooner or later, maybe not by the site itself but certainly by a punter. If you really don't want to get found out then caming is not for you.
    I don't think this is necessarily true but that's just me I guess

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    I don't think this is necessarily true but that's just me I guess
    Not necessarily true, but i think that is the frame of mind you should enter camming with. It totally could happen.

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    + The fact that you don't know about being recorded and posted does not mean that you are not... Better safe than sorry, it can happen anytime, it's happening to many girls out there, and when you are posted you will not be a comforted by "it wasn't 100% sure that it would happen". If you think you cannot deal with it, you should not do it. Camming is a great job, but it has its not so shiny side too. There is a thread about it somewhere. You really have to know about it all, and accept it, before you start it, cause once you get the sex worker stigma, you will have it, and I guess you don't wanna regret your decision later on.

    First I didn't like the idea, but then I was like: Who the fuck cares, I don't owe anyone explanations, the few people who is important to me knows and accepts it, the rest just does not matter.
    Now I'm like: Someone finds me and sees me masturbating? who cares as long as I look good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlodina

    Not necessarily true, but i think that is the frame of mind you should enter camming with. It totally could happen.
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    Ive seen many people jump into webcamming without understanding the possible ramifications in regards to future employment, taxes, or even being outed to friends and family. I went into webcamming with an alias, at first blocked certain areas, I still ended on tube sites, I ended up having friends, even family find out. This has happened to friends as well. I am well aware that if an employer digs enough they will find a paper trail.

    I also cringe when I see threads of people worrying at tax time, as independant contractors we are also taxed very heavily, I take out roughly 30 % of my earnings, that means for each 1000 made you take out 300. Do not think you can get past the tax man either.

    Most people will also say that webcamming is starting to slow down, this is because so many girls are joining and they are oversaturating the market. That does not mean that all cam girls will fail, but I foresee many girls who are signing up for these sites to quit, as they will be unable to make money. I have noticed that camming goes in cycles, there are times where there arent many girls, and the girls who are there bank, it is this time that everyone starts signing up, after that because of so many girls, things slow down and all the girls struggle and mostly the top girls survive.

    This is not to scare you, but to warn you to research carefully!

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    I agree with Holly. I only cam part time and I have been recorded and posted on tube sites. It's definitely not an easy decision. It took me a year and a half to decide if camming was for me and if it was worth the risk of being found out. I ultimately decided to jump in and now I'm glad I did because it turned out to be something I enjoy. Like Holly said, taxes are higher when you're self employed. Plus you have start-up and ongoing expenses. I'm older and "semi retired" so I don't worry about a future career but I really don't think I would have done it when I was younger.
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    How did you find yourselves btw? They don't use the names everytime. Just like, busty red head alone at home and shits like that. I don't really have the time, or feel like browsing all the tube sites, for solo masturbation videos... Or you only found the ones with your names?
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    Mostly customers have told me to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasses View Post
    How did you find yourselves btw? They don't use the names everytime. Just like, busy red head alone at home and shits like that. I don't really have the time, or feel like browsing all the tube sites, for solo masturbation videos... Or you only found the ones with your names?
    In my case, a regular told me about them. I had to sign up on the site to ask the guy who posted to take them down.
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    I gotta get some regulars like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaMystery View Post
    Thanks for your honest reply Missy,
    Thats too bad..
    What do you mean by a punter? (Sorry, Im not a native English ;-) ) Punter = customer
    I wouldnt really mind if some random guy at the other side of the world recorded me and kept this for himself if that is what you mean.. As explained by others, not always solely for the customer, guys love to brag/show off so expect videos and/or pics of yourself on various forums etc. My BF recentley came acroos some pics of me on a fetish forum, fully clothed, just looking dam sexy lol. The BF wasn't looking for what he found it was totally unrelated, but that shows how easy it could be for another family member/friend to find.The 2 things I mainly worry about is ending up on websites like youporn, having someone I know find out (living in my country, which I should be able to block according to livejasmin).
    Do you also think these worries are relevant? Yes, very.Take care!
    As has been said already, the best way forward to is imagine a real scenario where a friend or relative found out and told you, how would they react? how would you react? would it make a The way you answer these questions will also answer your original question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missymissdemeanour View Post
    Usually the ladies that see caming as a quick way to make a buck jump on the bandwagon, then realise that it's dammed hard work to consistantly be earning/banking, these are the ladies that give up/fail within 6 months.
    And then: "Meh, it wasn't worth it to start, I didn't make good money, now I will just stop it, and do something else. And now a friend found me? what? Where? Omg! wtf, does that happen? That is me for real, noo! Noone told meh it happens! How? What to do now? I didn't cam for long! Zomg, shit, what now? I thought only the guys in private saw me! Oh I will live under a rock for the next 50 years!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasses View Post
    And then: "Meh, it wasn't worth it to start, I didn't make good money, now I will just stop it, and do something else. And now a friend found me? what? Where? Omg! wtf, does that happen? That is me for real, noo! Noone told meh it happens! How? What to do now? I didn't cam for long! Zomg, shit, what now? I thought only the guys in private saw me! Oh I will live under a rock for the next 50 years!"
    This! This a thousand times!! Girls who wander in thinking that it is no big deal, or that it will be "worth it" because they will be making thousands a day, are the ones that find it hardest to deal with when something goes wrong, because they are the most likely to quit quickly.

    It makes sense, really. I have been working in the adult industry (stripping, modelling, camming) for about 8 years. I plan to keep working in it for another 10 - 12 years. So if, after 20 years of supporting myself happily, something comes out, well, it was worth it because I supported myself for 20 years! But if I worked 20 hours (split over a week or two) made a couple hundred bucks, and then threw in the towel.....it wouldn't be worth it anymore. Risking societal judgement, the loss of opportunities, and the inability to work in certain areas is NOT worth $150. It IS worth my entire income for 20 years.

    So think long and hard about it before you start this kind of work. Are you going to take it on as a career? What amount do you have to make to consider the cons "worth it", and are these amounts (or time frames, schedules, whatever other reason you have for doing this) feasable? Likely?
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