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    FilmLA at Today's Condom Hearing: 'Webcammers Need Permits'

    After the three-minute meeting, audience members make good points and deliver a surprise or two

    FilmLA at Today's Condom Hearing: 'Webcammers Need Permits'
    Posted May 11th, 2012 03:01 PM by Mark Kernes

    LOS ANGELES—Today saw the third meeting of the Working Group on the Safer Sex in the Adult Film Industry Ordinance, which once again was held in a conference room in the City Administrative Officer's office—and which once again was not posted on the list of the Los Angeles City Meetings & Agendas website.

    Of course, considering the content of the meeting—or lack thereof—the failure to post the meeting, though a violation of the city's rules, was of little consequence.

    In attendance at the meeting were Miguel Santana, the Chief Administrative Officer (CAO), as well as two staffers from his office; A.P. Diaz, representing the LA City Attorney; Robert Ragland, the Principal Deputy County Counsel for LA County; Mario Perez of the LA County Department of Public Health; Dru Ross of the LA Personnel Office; and three members of FilmLA, the agency which issues filming permits for those wishing to shoot movies in the city, including both FilmLA president Paul Audley and VP of Communications & Public Affairs Todd Lindgren.

    In fact, once those referenced above had introduced themselves, the official business was quickly over. The Working Group voted to approve the minutes of the previous meeting; CAO staffer Eva Bitar announced that work still needed to be completed on the Group's final report to the LA City Council, which was supposed to be presented to the Council on May 16; and Santana stated that the Working Group would have yet another meeting sometime next week, on a date to be determined, to consider the final report, and there was discussion that that report might be presented to the Council on May 23—unless the fact that the Council was slated to discuss the city's budget during that week forced yet another rescheduling.

    All of that took a total of three minutes, after which Santana opened the floor to comments from the audience.

    The first speaker was Immoral Productions owner Dan "Porno Dan" Leal, who informed the Group that one of his independent contractors had been given a citation by one of the eight members of LAPD's Vice Division who arrived at the location, for shooting a live webcam show without a permit. Leal explained that since the citation has been issued because the show, which was not yet under way when the police arrived, was being done for commercial profit or gain, he surmised that every webcam performer in the city would not be required to get a permit from FilmLA, and asked the FilmLA representatives if that was correct?

    "It has been consistent that any commercial production, including webcasts, needs a permit," responded FilmLA's Lindgren.

    "So any webcam show shot by anyone in the city of Los Angeles will now need a permit, is that correct?" Leal asked.

    "Has always needed a permit, right," Lindgren corrected him.

    "Ergo, any married couple shooting in their house, who's shooting a webcam show for profit or gain, which by definition would be every single person that shoots webcam, would now need a permit, is that correct?" Leal pressed.

    "Under the city ordinance, if it's for commercial purpose, it needs a permit," Lindgren stated.

    "And therefore, they would need condoms under the new regulation, is that correct, that logic?" Leal continued.

    "We're in the process of developing that specific—and I can't answer that question," Lindgren responded.

    At that point, Santana cut Leal off, stating that the comment period wasn't supposed to include a question-and-answer dialog with Group members, leaving Leal to finish by stating, "We will be happy to comply with whatever the city decides to do."

    Michael Fattorosi, who thought he'd donated his three minutes to Leal, was allowed to speak as well, and directed the Group's attention to the comments he's made at the previous meeting.

    "You have an overwhelming difficult task in front of you," Fattorosi told the Group. "There is a large amount of commercial shooting that is going on, that is of a hardcore nature, that would be almost impossible to regulate. The law is broadly written [and] anyone involved in the production of an adult film could be cited under this law, whether that includes makeup artists or a hired performer; you have issues as far as being able to identify who the producers are; you have overseas producers that are now looking to Los Angeles as a place to hire directors and performers. There is an insurmountable task in front of LAPD to identify the parties that may not even be the actual producers.

    "This is not 1995 anymore in the adult industry," he continued. "It is a worldwide business. This is a business that has foreign interests in Los Angeles, it has local interests in Los Angeles, and again I ask that when this council and this commission puts forth recommendations to the City Council as to implementing this particular law, that they see the broader issues of being able to regulate and being able to implement this, and that you consider the First Amendment issues that were raised last time... We're in tough economic times, and there may be married couples, there may be single women who do this in order to make extra money, or to be able to pay their rent, and if you're expecting them to pay $750 or more per month to maintain a filming permit, to be able to earn that, they won't, and they probably can't afford to."
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    Default Re: Webcammers Now Need Permits... Wow, Dumb

    Does anyone know any more about this? Is it a worldwide thing? I can't seem to find anything with a google search

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    It's not a worldwide thing. PLEASE read the article *sigh*

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    I read the article, and it does not state if this is worldwide or not, in fact it's extremely vague as to how much of an issue this is even in LA, hence my question.

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    Default Re: Webcammers Now Need Permits... Wow, Dumb

    According to the article, it is LA only. This was a meeting of LA (council?) members. This is completely ridiculous and shows how broke CA is. LOL I am glad I moved out of that state years ago.

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    From what I have been reading, it may not last long.. I have been watching XBIZ and they have been keeping up with it. so you guys might wanna try there.
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    Smdh,I just wonder how long it's going to take these rules(if they stand) to go nationwide.Damn I wish they would just leave us alone,

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    If it goes national - I would love to see how the sites respond because I bet half of them could care less...

    All I know is, I'll stay further under the radar and I will rebel because that is CRAP.
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    Default Re: Webcammers Now Need Permits... Wow, Dumb

    i poseted this like a day or so ago..
    still here.... just in another chapter..

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    It will soon be a nationwide thing. And even if its rejected over & over, I bet they'll pull a SOPA and have a similar (or worse) bill secretly passed under false pretenses. And I bet people who have the permit will soon have to pay higher taxes. They're money-hungry and want strict regulation.


    Quote Originally Posted by MissMafia View Post
    If it goes national - I would love to see how the sites respond because I bet half of them could care less...

    All I know is, I'll stay further under the radar and I will rebel because that is CRAP.
    They won't care. We're independent contractors. They won't have to owe any more money or have any more legal responsibilities than they do now (which is not much). Legal responsibility and tax fees are solely on the performer(s). By signing up with a site (signing the contact before they approve you), you basically agree that all legal and financial responsibility is solely on you.

    Staying under the radar won't do much because a.) majority of sites send out 1099s (aka proof you're a webcammer) and b.) they have your 2257 address which is supposed to be completely up-to-date at all times which reveals your location.

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    Doesn't matter - they can stick me in jail for all I care.

    I am not paying $730 for a permit to cam from MY house and my own business let alone going to allow some political agenda to rule me...

    Not gonna happen. I don't care what the legal reasoning is, I won't do it and I don't have to do it. The majority of sites do a 1099 where the other places do not.

    and I'd like to see the majority of the sites that don't stay up to date. I don't think it would go national - that would be stupid - just saying.

    I think they are only doing this where porn is produced in the masses. It's unconstitutional. Not gonna fly and it's not gonna hold up.

    We shall see though - however I think many are getting scared for no reason.
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    As far as people camming from their own home, including solo performers and married couples, it seems completely ridiculous to try to regulate this. Sure, it can be done, but it will probably have to be done on a voluntary basis or as a fine/bill at the end of the year. Yes, the government has a 1099 for your earnings for the previous year, but unless they break into your home while you're in the middle of a performance and catch you in the act...

    Well, I suppose they can start subpoenaing bank records and such, to find out if you're currently making money/putting on a performance. But, as pointed out in the meeting, all of this would take an enormous amount of manpower to enforce. I suppose it will be worth it to them though, if charging each production (porn company, studio, solo performer or couple) $750/month is worth the cost of hiring 20 more people to enforce these laws, then they'll do it.

    If they start charging each individual model $750/month, and it costs the same for a studio to operate with an unlimited number of models... oh boy.

    I imagine that you're getting into some sketchy territory if you tell a married couple, who is completely monogamous, that they MUST use a condom while having sex for profit.

    Think my head is still spinning from this. I think it's highly unlikely that it will become federal law. But I do know that street performers and vendors must have a permit to operate. So I suppose it's possible... idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    I read the article, and it does not state if this is worldwide or not, in fact it's extremely vague as to how much of an issue this is even in LA, hence my question.
    Things like this, permits and such, will always vary by state and even city. If you are not in Los Angeles this will not apply to you..... yet.

    I personally would not really mind having to have a permit. Yes, it's another annoying fee but... webcamming is a business. As a business owner you expect to incur costs/fees to operate. I also feel like this would weed out some of the rush of people turning to webcamming as "get rich quick" scheme, which has increasingly become a problem for flooding sites.

    Thousands of businesses have to obtain permits in order to operate. I don't know why we should feel like we are in some elite untouchable category that is removed from regulation/permits/taxes/etc.
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    They really would just be shooting themselves in the foot, I've decided. If you expect solo performers to pay this fee, on top of the higher taxes they're already paying, many of them will stop camming. That's lost income to LA's citizens, thus less money being put back into the local economy. I just don't think it makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissMafia View Post
    Doesn't matter - they can stick me in jail for all I care.

    I am not paying $730 for a permit to cam from MY house and my own business let alone going to allow some political agenda to rule me...

    Not gonna happen. I don't care what the legal reasoning is, I won't do it and I don't have to do it. The majority of sites do a 1099 where the other places do not.

    and I'd like to see the majority of the sites that don't stay up to date. I don't think it would go national - that would be stupid - just saying.

    I think they are only doing this where porn is produced in the masses. It's unconstitutional. Not gonna fly and it's not gonna hold up.

    We shall see though - however I think many are getting scared for no reason.
    How is requiring a business owner to obtain a permit in order to operate "unconstitutional"???
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    True. But I'm wondering how they could roll this out - maybe like the tv license over here? They do have technology to detect if people are using a tv (even online tv) without a license and can send them a fine, but it rarely happens. I've just never heard of it before which is why i wondered if this was something (having a permit i mean) anyone had ever come across before

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    Things like this, permits and such, will always vary by state and even city. If you are not in Los Angeles this will not apply to you..... yet.

    I personally would not really mind having to have a permit. Yes, it's another annoying fee but... webcamming is a business. As a business owner you expect to incur costs/fees to operate. I also feel like this would weed out some of the rush of people turning to webcamming as "get rich quick" scheme, which has increasingly become a problem for flooding sites.

    Thousands of businesses have to obtain permits in order to operate. I don't know why we should feel like we are in some elite untouchable category that is removed from regulation/permits/taxes/etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexysusie View Post
    True. But I'm wondering how they could roll this out - maybe like the tv license over here? They do have technology to detect if people are using a tv (even online tv) without a license and can send them a fine, but it rarely happens. I've just never heard of it before which is why i wondered if this was something (having a permit i mean) anyone had ever come across before
    I honestly do not think this is something that most of us are going to have to worry about. It would be extremely difficult to regulate. Unless they required cam sites to obtain proof of the proper permit before approving an account.... but that is not likely since most big cam sites are not in the US except maybe MFC, cams.com... etc.
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    I certainly don't think it's unconstitutional. The government regulates a significant portion of what you're allowed to do/not allowed to do in your own home, and at what cost.

    However, how many people can REALLY afford to pay that much? Let's say it is $750/month. I mean, depending on where you live, that's like a month's rent. (For me, it's almost a months' rent. For some, it's more or less, I'm just using an example). I think I make pretty good money camming but I think I would start looking for something else to do if I had to pay this much.

    Let's say you make $1000/wk camming (since people like to constantly use that amount). That's $4000/month. $750 is 18.75% of your income. Plus the 30% in taxes you're paying. That means you're paying out $1950 of $4000 in taxes and fees. If it's 100% tax deductible, more people might be able to swing it by decreasing their tax payments to 20% (accounting for the deduction ahead of time), but still.... wow.

    I agree with Sarah though, I don't think it's something most of us will have to worry about. I know the state where I live, and certainly the city, wouldn't devote the resources to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahTime View Post
    I also feel like this would weed out some of the rush of people turning to webcamming as "get rich quick" scheme, which has increasingly become a problem for flooding sites.
    I think a $100/month fee or maybe even a $300/month fee will weed out those kinds of performers. Hell, $50 will weed out some of the people I see doing facial cumshots in free chat for $20. You KNOW they've got to consider $20 a hell of a lot of money to be doing that.

    However, $750/month starts to weed out some of the quality performers. Or maybe just me...

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    I am all for safe sex and using condoms (I have and will only do BB with serious LTR lovers), but I am against any government telling me condoms are mandatory. If condoms are mandatory for porn performers they should make birth control and condoms mandatory for anyone seeking state assistance. But then again that will never happen.



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    Quote Originally Posted by OJenni! View Post
    If condoms are mandatory for porn performers they should make birth control and condoms mandatory for anyone seeking state assistance. But then again that will never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam_Model_Jess View Post
    I think a $100/month fee or maybe even a $300/month fee will weed out those kinds of performers. Hell, $50 will weed out some of the people I see doing facial cumshots in free chat for $20. You KNOW they've got to consider $20 a hell of a lot of money to be doing that.

    However, $750/month starts to weed out some of the quality performers. Or maybe just me...
    I think $300 would be reasonable. For us being solo. I could definitely and happily pay a $300 / month if that meant I'm legal.

    Having to pay a monthly fee means you have to get serious about what you're doing. It means stepping your game up and getting smart about how you earn your money. It would definitely limit people from doing camming as an impulse. It would keep away the girls who want to dick around (no pun) and give everything away in free chat - they wouldn't be making enough money for it to be profitable.

    750 for doing solo work? A month? Like you that's basically another rent payment for me. Which in my mind is ridiculous - on-top of taxes, site percentages, payment fees, etc. They would have break down permit pricing...solos, couples, studio producers. If 750 was across the board I would make a big stink about it.







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    I don't think mandatory condom use in( mass produced studio porn) for intercourse would be a bad thing at all. We all know testing is flawed because of the window period between the mandatory testing. It's not the same as the personal choice to use condoms, because porn is a profession and they have certain regulations in place. There's nothing wrong with having health regulations in place to protect workers (that's why AIM testing was created), this is just a natural and necessary extension of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlotteslut View Post
    I don't think mandatory condom use in( mass produced studio porn) for intercourse would be a bad thing at all. We all know testing is flawed because of the window period between the mandatory testing. It's not the same as the personal choice to use condoms, because porn is a profession and they have certain regulations in place. There's nothing wrong with having health regulations in place to protect workers (that's why AIM testing was created), this is just a natural and necessary extension of this.
    I don't think it's a bad thing either. The worry would be about the customer base. Bareback porn is a fantasy. The condom takes away from that.

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    The idea of licensing isn't a bad one, IMHO, but the costs would have to be MUCH lower than $750 a month!! Christ, there are a lot of girls working part time who are only looking to EARN $750 a month! Not because they are crappy, or are giving it all away for free, but maybe because they just work 1-2 nights a week for an hour or two for a little extra. Lots of people pay less than that a month in rent - that is a HUGE amount...maybe not for a studio license, but for an individual??

    To put it in perspective, my other job is as a piercer/tattoo artist. Locally, we do not have to be licensed, however, the governing body for piercing is the APP, and annual dues are around $100. Fees for artists are a little higher, but still come in at a couple hundred a year. Now that is something that I would be happy to pay....

    That said, this kind of situation would be incredibly difficult to police....so I doubt that it would ever really come to fruition. I'm not too concerned.
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