Debate? What debate? If the society and other men refuse to stand up for the women in their society, they damn well should be able to defend themselves from this abuse.
"Hayrettin Bulan with the women's group Sefkat-Der, which means "compassion foundation," shocked some people with a call for a vigorous self-defense program for women, including giving them guns and teaching them how to use them. Bulan says it's just one of a series of measures his group recommends..."
http://www.npr.org/2012/05/19/153034...t-to-bear-arms
There should be no debate. Enough is enough and some times that's all that stands between you and your abuser. Some good quotes in the article like:
Hayrettin Bulan with the women's group Sefkat-Der, which means "compassion foundation," shocked some people with a call for a vigorous self-defense program for women, including giving them guns and teaching them how to use them. Bulan says it's just one of a series of measures his group recommends, but it's gotten by far the most attention.
"We're telling these battered women: If the government won't protect you, learn to protect yourselves. Self-defense is a legitimate right. Carry pepper spray, learn martial arts, and yes, go to the range and learn to shoot a gun," Bulan says. "It amazes me that people think it's fine for a shop owner to have a gun to protect his money, but a woman can't have one to save her life."
No one there is going to change anything to protect these women, so someone (and ex LEO) is recommending they learn to defend themselves. Some times real change comes from some movement, and perhaps beating their women to death for "honor" or some such BS will be reduced when the women decides she's had enough of it.
Amazing how fast men who like to abuse women back down when the woman is willing to go down fighting. I can see a women's movement like the spreading around the region and making either real change, or exposing the total lack of laws, or enforcement of the laws, protecting women.




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