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    that this week has been disgustingly slow? Normally make like 30 hr on a slow and dead day and some days this week thats my highest amount per hour? I'm working like 12-14h days right now and not making as much as I used to in 7 a day? This week has been so terrible I just wanna beat any client that comes in my room and says anything nasty.

    Anyone else notice the decline in traffic? even freechat? normally 20-30 people in there at once now theres, 2.. 3... 10, I mean whats up? Ive been hosting there over a year now and Im scared maybe its just me?

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    I feel ya sister. What's also fucked up is one day it takes me 4 hrs to make $200 and the next it takes nearly 12? WTF is up with that shit?



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    OMG WEBCAM CUTIE THANK U FOR THIS POST!!!! I do awesome on streamate and I been so depressed because this week has been terrible!!! I was starting to think it was just me!! Im in the top row most of the time and its still slow!! Such a relief to know its just a slow week

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    it is NOT a slow week for me.........

    traffic is what it is.... or what U make it to be......

    certain models log on and they have over 100 people in the room..

    how is that slow traffic?

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    not wanting to start a duplicate thread ... but 'tis the season' ...

    - tax refund money has now been received and spent
    - good weather / vacation season starting in the northern hemisphere has lots of guys 'out of the house' and away from their computers
    - with college spring semesters ending, and college students returning 'home' for the summer, there is both less potential access to a 'private' computer with high speed internet connection ( i.e. parent's house ), as well as much more potential for 'live' activities involving local night clubs, beaches, sports events etc.
    - with hot weather now hitting many big cities, and with regular school years drawing near an end, there is more 'family' pressure on married guys to head directly home from work.

    For better or worse, I wouldn't expect any major upturn until after Labor Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonie View Post
    not wanting to start a duplicate thread ... but 'tis the season' ...
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    Im going to disagree....

    Traffic in 1 model's room gets built up over time...
    Regulars.. fans... freeloaders..

    If you dont try and TRY and TRYY to build your traffic, Each and EVERY single day you;re online..
    then you;ll run into problems like this and blame it on the season...

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    working over 8 hours a day burns you out......
    the second you dont look happy and fresh... that second privates STOP.

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    Yeah I have to agree.

    Some people base their traffic on time of the year, etc.
    In the 5 years I've been hosting regardless of where I've been hosting due to regulars
    And what not traffic has basically remained the same with a slight incline or decline,
    But never a drastic change because of taxes or Sumer etc.

    Apparently it's just a slow week as I'm not the only one.
    Heres hoping next week is better

    Good luck ladies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    Im going to disagree....

    Traffic in 1 model's room gets built up over time...
    Regulars.. fans... freeloaders..

    If you dont try and TRY and TRYY to build your traffic, Each and EVERY single day you;re online..
    then you;ll run into problems like this and blame it on the season...

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    working over 8 hours a day burns you out......
    the second you dont look happy and fresh... that second privates STOP.
    lol - Obviously it's not going to affect everyone . Just because you and some top models are doing well , doesn't mean a majority aren't seeing a slide ! I aint noticed a dip in my traffic, but I believe there is one in general, because THAT many friends have mentioned it in the last week . Just because it's not affecting you , doesn't mean it doesn't exist For some people, they can ''TRY TRY TRY'' and if it's quiet , it's quiet ! For some people they can look Fresh and happy - and the pvts aint started to be able to stop ! Just sayin ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    certain models log on and they have over 100 people in the room..

    how is that slow traffic?
    It's slow if they're used to having 1000 people + in their room ;-) Everything is relative and an average doesn't have to inclue all .... A girl could take double your traffic, and it could be slow for HER , you could take half hers and be dancing with delight .... if a group of people are moaning that there's a change , then there probably is

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    My traffic is a lot, lot, lot slower than it has been right now. But, I agree with Melonie - I always have a summer 'slump' (have been doing this ten years now). I've basically stopped doing gold shows because there just aren't enough people coming in to my room. When I browse other rooms I see traffic seems less than it was too. I've seen two of the very top models (and I'm a top row girl) nearly in tears this week because they were cancelling gold show after gold show. The only gold shows I've had work are when I've had a big tipper or two drop by.

    It'll pick up though
    Quote Originally Posted by HaydenBlue View Post
    Somebody call the WAHHHHmbulance.

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    Last year everyone was in a tizzy about the 'summer slump' pffft. It doesn't even bother me anymore. Those of us that are still here - we made it! And we can make it through the 'slow times' again. Get your eggs in more baskets and keep making $$$$$$.








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    Yea there can be 100 plus members in my room but that don't mean their paying customers. Traffic to me is Members who are actually spending money. Today I got on in the Morning it was REALLY busy!! Go make that money girls and keep your heads up!!

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    Agreed, completely. I've been camming for 15 years and there is no rhyme or reason to the traffic flow. There is only one day of the year that has been consistently slow for me, year after year and I sign in on that day just for a bit because experience tells me it's otherwise a huge waste of time, and that's Superbowl Sunday! Other than that, we can make excuses for every month of the year, for why traffic is slow.

    This has, so far, been the week from hell for me, but I'm not going to attribute it to anything other than my personal findings, which are: 1) My listing has me middle of the page, where I've slid to in the last 5 weeks, from the first 2 top rows (sometimes 1, sometimes 2), where I used to be for the last 2 years. 2) I'm listed in whitelabels that, according to internet stats reporting sites, have little to no traffic. 3) The site itself is losing traffic this week and its trends, according to this, show increases but then major drops over quarterlies. Down in the last week, across the board. Go back a year if you really want to see where it dipped. It seems to me that they are unable to retain the independent girls, so they keep pushing/promoting studios. When I first started there, just over 2 years ago, I was so happy, I sung their praises to anyone that would listen. Girls were inspired to sign up themselves and see if they'd do as well and they did. Now, those girls are nowhere to be seen. When traffic dies, we don't sit around and analyze it; we leave. I'm guessing that's exactly what has happened. I'm also sticking to my guns as far as content theft is concerned. It's putting a major dent in our revenue. You have to look at the big picture and imagine the worst possible scenario, then take it down a couple of notches and then start crunching the numbers a little. My content is earning more revenue than I am. There is something terribly wrong with that picture.

    And keeping it fresh, hustling, yada, yada, yada, is something we all do, (despite the sometimes 'generous' advice given in these forums with regards to what we're doing wrong or not doing, for that matter), but if there's no traffic, you can't make money. It really is that simple. Send my own traffic to the site? Sure but I don't trust them. Their reports have no details and most of the time, I'm left wondering where all those sign-ups I've had in the past are now. They're not spending anymore. I'm supposed to be getting revshares at 30% for life. Hmmmmm. So not one of all the guys I've brought over is spending anymore? Not a cent? Not a Gold show? Nothing at all? I find that very hard to believe but then on the flip side, it might help to explain why the site is so dead lately.

    My 2 cents. I'm certain this will receive more than its share of criticism. Chop away!


    Quote Originally Posted by webcamcutie View Post
    Yeah I have to agree.

    Some people base their traffic on time of the year, etc.
    In the 5 years I've been hosting regardless of where I've been hosting due to regulars
    And what not traffic has basically remained the same with a slight incline or decline,
    But never a drastic change because of taxes or Sumer etc.

    Apparently it's just a slow week as I'm not the only one.
    Heres hoping next week is better

    Good luck ladies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amanda36c View Post
    Agreed, completely. I've been camming for 15 years and there is no rhyme or reason to the traffic flow. There is only one day of the year that has been consistently slow for me, year after year and I sign in on that day just for a bit because experience tells me it's otherwise a huge waste of time, and that's Superbowl Sunday! Other than that, we can make excuses for every month of the year, for why traffic is slow.

    This has, so far, been the week from hell for me, but I'm not going to attribute it to anything other than my personal findings, which are: 1) My listing has me middle of the page, where I've slid to in the last 5 weeks, from the first 2 top rows (sometimes 1, sometimes 2), where I used to be for the last 2 years. 2) I'm listed in whitelabels that, according to internet stats reporting sites, have little to no traffic. 3) The site itself is losing traffic this week and its trends, according to this, show increases but then major drops over quarterlies. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/streamate.com# Down in the last week, across the board. Go back a year if you really want to see where it dipped. It seems to me that they are unable to retain the independent girls, so they keep pushing/promoting studios. When I first started there, just over 2 years ago, I was so happy, I sung their praises to anyone that would listen. Girls were inspired to sign up themselves and see if they'd do as well and they did. Now, those girls are nowhere to be seen. When traffic dies, we don't sit around and analyze it; we leave. I'm guessing that's exactly what has happened. I'm also sticking to my guns as far as content theft is concerned. It's putting a major dent in our revenue. You have to look at the big picture and imagine the worst possible scenario, then take it down a couple of notches and then start crunching the numbers a little. My content is earning more revenue than I am. There is something terribly wrong with that picture.

    And keeping it fresh, hustling, yada, yada, yada, is something we all do, (despite the sometimes 'generous' advice given in these forums with regards to what we're doing wrong or not doing, for that matter), but if there's no traffic, you can't make money. It really is that simple. Send my own traffic to the site? Sure but I don't trust them. Their reports have no details and most of the time, I'm left wondering where all those sign-ups I've had in the past are now. They're not spending anymore. I'm supposed to be getting revshares at 30% for life. Hmmmmm. So not one of all the guys I've brought over is spending anymore? Not a cent? Not a Gold show? Nothing at all? I find that very hard to believe but then on the flip side, it might help to explain why the site is so dead lately.

    My 2 cents. I'm certain this will receive more than its share of criticism. Chop away!
    While I don't agree with everything you say, Amanda - I do agree with some of this.

    I do believe Streamate has been shaving (try matching up your checks with your website statements. I've been missing out on a few pennies every paycheck. x's that by a couple thousand girls and SM can shave a couple hundred+ off for profit) so with sign-ups + shaving? Totally possible.

    No traffic = no money. Also correct. And to echo UKMissy - the top girls may still be holding out ok, but it isn't fair to say we aren't trying or we're doing something 'wrong'. The top row is the first thing a guy see's when he click through to the site. Most guys click immediately to a top girl because they don't have the time/want to surf through girls when all he wants to do is get off. While the top girls aren't seeing any traffic decline, the girls towards the lower end of the page will see it and if you're on page 2, 3, + will definitely be hurting as far as traffic goes.







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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaLovesyou View Post
    Yea there can be 100 plus members in my room but that don't mean their paying customers. Traffic to me is Members who are actually spending money. !
    of course.. and thats up to the model to make them " paying customers ".

    You= generally speaking. ok. Im not talking to a particular forum user...

    it does not even matter if there is 1 member in your room, or 200.
    of course the chances are better with 200.... but...
    what do u do and say when u SEE there are 200 guys in your room?
    Even noticed?
    U light up... ur all happy.. all smiles... all willing to have fun, saying hi and being nice to everyone....
    That is why you get more people to pay when u have 200.

    if you treat that 1, the only one guest in your room like he's golden, you just might get him to pay up.
    but models dont do that..
    as soon as traffic is bad, they get cranky, pisses off, and they show it.
    therefore the chance they had to convert that 1 guest into 1 customer of theirs are now ZERO.

    No one pays for a pissed of bitch.
    And if they do, you just got lucky.cause... the majority wont.

    its all in the attitude.
    Your attitude towards whatever happens in Your room.

    yes it is slow sometimes... but why make life even harder for you by showing and telling them that" guys, its slow.. ahh..."... bite your tongue, do NOT.

    what do u mean its slow..?
    its slow cause they dont pay for u anymore?
    should they?
    they dont have a contract with you, to pay for you everytime they see YOU.
    Rest assure they are paying for someone else, and you can do nothing about it.

    if you cant fight them, join them.
    so even if its hard, laugh about it.. make jokes about it..
    .do anythng BUT show them you;re mad about it...

    Ive seen this happening so many times, I know what Im taking about.

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    Fridays - You are talking about two seperate issues - While it's a helpful tip to look happy/chatty/not a miserable bitch , it's not what the OP is discussing . Assuming she has taken these standards into consideration - which is what you're talking about , a standard - it is ALWAYS important to give a good customer services. What the girls are discussing is , the differentiating traffic , upon no change in models circumstance or attitude ........ It's almost like you're saying - if you try hard and give a good performance, you will do well .

    This is simply not true , we are in a recession ... If you give a good performance, you may make more than if you didn't , but it's not a given that it will keep traffic consistent. I find that almost insulting to the girls who are trying as hard as they ever were , and noticing a dip . No one mentioned that the guys have a contract where they MUST pay us , but there is definitely a correlation in a dip in traffic and the time of year - It happens. All I am saying is a drop in business in not ALWAYS a reflection of the business practise . There are and always will be external factors to take into consideration, and it is these I am sure the OP is investigating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
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    its all in the attitude.
    Your attitude towards whatever happens in Your room.
    That's my very point - It's not ALL in the attitude at all . You can sit with the best attitude in the world and if there's no traffic , there's no traffic . Business relies on many external factors , attitude being only one of them .

    ( sorry to keep posting seperate threads, I do not know how to multi quote )

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    Quote Originally Posted by amanda36c View Post
    Agreed, completely. I've been camming for 15 years and there is no rhyme or reason to the traffic flow. There is only one day of the year that has been consistently slow for me, year after year and I sign in on that day just for a bit because experience tells me it's otherwise a huge waste of time, and that's Superbowl Sunday! Other than that, we can make excuses for every month of the year, for why traffic is slow.

    My 2 cents. I'm certain this will receive more than its share of criticism. Chop away!
    Chopping away...
    here we go..

    1. you;re burnt out.. big time... after all this time, its normal.
    take a step back...
    why are u online?
    what do u have to do online?( in free chat)
    How do u have to do it? ( free chat)
    for how long?

    2. Why is traffic slow for you?
    have u done anything differently lately than when it was great for you?
    were u looking differently? talking/moving differently/was your appearance different?
    were u sitting differently?
    was your attitude different?
    were your shows different? both free and privates

    If ( but I doubt it) everything is the exact same, yet your traffic is slow, change things up.

    If its not broke, dont fix it, ... but if its broke, fix it right away!

    Ladies you cant just sit there and wait for privates.
    Because out of an average of 600 models online.
    1. 500 other ladies are sitting there and waiting as well!!!
    2. The other 100 are actually trying hard(er) than the 500!!


    On a positive note, you can only succeed after you have failed.
    Otherwise, U'd not know the difference.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by ukmissy View Post
    You can sit with the best attitude in the world and if there's no traffic , there's no traffic . )
    I said in a previous post. ( maybe another thread, im confused now,.. lol).. that
    PROOF that there is traffic is when certain models log on.. the room gets filled up.
    this means... the traffic from your room and my room.. goes to her room.

    do u know what I say to that?
    This is great!!!!
    the site has traffic..!!!!!
    ( instead of saying... shit, my traffic vanished...)
    once again, its all in the attitude... towards the people in the room. and towards life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fridays View Post
    of course.. and thats up to the model to make them " paying customers ".

    You= generally speaking. ok. Im not talking to a particular forum user...

    it does not even matter if there is 1 member in your room, or 200.
    of course the chances are better with 200.... but...
    what do u do and say when u SEE there are 200 guys in your room?
    Even noticed?
    U light up... ur all happy.. all smiles... all willing to have fun, saying hi and being nice to everyone....
    That is why you get more people to pay when u have 200.

    if you treat that 1, the only one guest in your room like he's golden, you just might get him to pay up.
    but models dont do that..
    as soon as traffic is bad, they get cranky, pisses off, and they show it.
    therefore the chance they had to convert that 1 guest into 1 customer of theirs are now ZERO.

    No one pays for a pissed of bitch.
    And if they do, you just got lucky.cause... the majority wont.

    its all in the attitude.
    Your attitude towards whatever happens in Your room.

    yes it is slow sometimes... but why make life even harder for you by showing and telling them that" guys, its slow.. ahh..."... bite your tongue, do NOT.

    what do u mean its slow..?
    its slow cause they dont pay for u anymore?
    should they?
    they dont have a contract with you, to pay for you everytime they see YOU.
    Rest assure they are paying for someone else, and you can do nothing about it.

    if you cant fight them, join them.
    so even if its hard, laugh about it.. make jokes about it..
    .do anythng BUT show them you;re mad about it...

    Ive seen this happening so many times, I know what Im taking about.
    You (general-speaking) can be happy and perky and teasing etc whatever - all. day. long. But if the custie does not want to pay - he will not pay. If there is fewer traffic for that model that model will have a very difficult time making money.

    I don't think you understand what this is. This is about TRAFFIC not how we act in our rooms.

    This is where VOLUME of traffic comes into it. We are in the business of sales.

    I used to do affiliates and dating sign-ups (please don't stone me, haha) and in making money there was a ratio of traffic or hits vs sales: to throw out a number, 1000:1 (1000 hits = 1 sale). Someone on a lower scale of only seeing 20 clicks has a VERY small chance of getting a sale.

    Exposure - RL example, who has a better chance of landing a record deal, someone who sings on American Idol or someone who sings in a coffee house? The coffee house singer could be AMAZING but if no one is around to see him - he has no EXPOSURE, no 'traffic' he will be stuck where he's at.

    If you have 0 to only a trickle of guys in your room within a few hours time - your chances of earning $ are significantly lower (near 0%) then someone higher up.

    The argument/solution to this is the girl on the lower scale of things needs to be putting major offline (NOT online) hours into marketing her signups so she can see an increase in placement/traffic/earnings. So she can gain TARGETED traffic - men who are coming to see her and ONLY her. Thus increasing her overall $$.


    (;-; I just noticed I pulled a Bambalina - CAPS. So sorry. LOL)







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    Why are you guys even arguing this? lol. Its already a fact that Streamate's major traffic source got cut off in mid-January. And it will continue to drop and more & more sides are taken in the matter. Unless Manwin sells Streamate (aka not going to happen), traffic will continually die there. So ummm... if you want to continue to work on that site, I suggest you do porn or whatever you can to get your name out there, and also to take of your georestrictions (which most in this thread already have off) just because your traffic will increase because more people will be able to see you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Why are you guys even arguing this? lol. Its already a fact that Streamate's major traffic source got cut off in mid-January. And it will continue to drop and more & more sides are taken in the matter. Unless Manwin sells Streamate (aka not going to happen), traffic will continually die there. So ummm... if you want to continue to work on that site, I suggest you do porn or whatever you can to get your name out there, and also to take of your georestrictions (which most in this thread already have off) just because your traffic will increase because more people will be able to see you.
    Agreed. It's a slow, sinking ship.







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    A lot of good points on both sides of the issue have been made.

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    ok. bottom line
    be happy with the traffic u got, and work with it, instead of working against it.
    be happy u have 2 people in the room
    would u rather have 1 ?.
    No.
    Ok then.
    Be happy.

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    What if you have 2 people who are drooling and not paying? lol It happens, unfortunately.



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