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    been lurkin for a few days, came across site as my s/o has been cam'ing the past few months and was interested in stepping up security, making sure she wasn't being taken advantage of, etc... great info btw site is a wonderful resource- more questions then i was interested in asking were answered in most of the stickys. probably won't post much as i'll get bitched at for trolling this forum by her .
    in either case, we both enjoy the strip club, atmosphere, (mostly i) enjoy all the beautiful women... went through a few sections on here and didnt see much in the way of entertaining- i realize up on stage isn't exactly where the money is, however i may be odd man out on this but i've never really been interested in dances/vip/cr- i've probably bought more dances for friends then i have for myself over the past 10+years. I really enjoy watching a performance up on stage , enjoying a few drinks with friends, and having a good time- the entertainment value has gone downhill as of lately so we don't frequent as much. typical night would for us (s/o and i), we'd blow through 200/hour throwing small bills at the stage and drinks for as long as our attention was kept. soo is the money just really not there to put much effort into pole dancing? in general i notice its a bandwagon type of situation, usually if it's slow and we sit and start throwing money more customers will open up, and the dancers atleast pretend to half way enjoy being up there

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    How do you get taken advantage of on Cam, just asking?

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    $$ mostly, seeing what the "standard" percentage is...she's kinda naive and won't ever ask if someone/something doesn't seem right

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    So you just make sure She's signed up with the right place?

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    Maybe the entertainment value has gone down bc the club prob has a lot of customers who don't like lapdances, vip/champagne....aka non-spenders. I mean, think about it. Why put in an effort when there is no money rollin' in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbeleavable View Post
    So you just make sure She's signed up with the right place?
    for the most part... she's choosen a reputable one and happy with it

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    Maybe the entertainment value has gone down bc the club prob has a lot of customers who don't like lapdances, vip/champagne....aka non-spenders. I mean, think about it. Why put in an effort when there is no money rollin' in?
    the clubs usually seem busy enough, plenty of lap dances going on , it's more like that is all that the girls are going after anymore (dance/vip)- which for all purposes that is why you are there to make your money, please DO IT...

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    $200/hour between a group of guys who are also ordering drinks and presumably not nursing them too horribly... I realize nobody divides his money up into equal little stacks and gives the same amount to each girl, but let's look at some numbers:

    So, let's say it's a group of 3 guys. Drinks at my last club were $9 a piece not counting tip. So if y'all each have 2 drinks in the hour, you've spent $54. You then have a collective $146 to tip your waitress and the dancers for that hour, by your estimate. Let's just leave out the waitress' tip for now, as I've seen guys tip waitresses anywhere from $0 up. So you have the $146 between the 3 guys. If the songs are cut at the 3:30 mark, that's about 17 songs in the 60 minutes. Dividing the $146 equally by those 17 songs, your table would be tipping about $8.50 total per song, or not even $3 per guy per song. If each girl has two songs on stage, that's $17 from your table. $17 from 3 guys and they each want her to "work for it," like she's not worth a crumpled up dollar till she shows her tits or does whatever those guys deem "entertaining" enough for a dollar. This, of course, is while there are probably men blatantly watching the stage and not tipping so much as that dollar. Oh, and there might be multiple stages, so that just adds to the expected fun.

    Some girls have great luck with stage. Some customers pick which girls they want to spend time with by watching the stage. But most of the guys just lord over their little dollar stacks and act like they're giving you a kidney when they part with any cash. If you want a girl to perform well for you, pay her well.

    Edit: if you meant that you each individually go through $200/hour, then carry on. However, even if that were so, you'd be in the minority.
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    i do like how you've broken it down, so i should have probably made it more clear, drinking between two of us is usually 2 or 3 rounds per hour + tip for waitress is still around 50-60 bux chunk gone... and songs are generally in that range with usually two "calls" for lap dances by the dj in that hour will go idle a few minutes of no stage action...so maybe 5-6 girls will split the other 150 we're throwing out. and trust me i know we're not keeping the place open but i figure we could be paying for dance after dance for 4 hours, but what fun is that.

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    I have spent hundreds of dollars many, many times without getting lapdances--for myself, that is. I buy them for the other girls or women who are with me, or just throw a bunch of money at the dancers onstage if I like them. And I also have been lamenting the decline in attention to stage performance in so many clubs these days.

    But I fear this might be becoming exceptional behavior on the part of customers.

    By the way, naming yourself 'idontcarehoe' is a great way to make sure the female members here are not going to take you seriously.
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    I give up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontcarehoe View Post
    the clubs usually seem busy enough, plenty of lap dances going on , it's more like that is all that the girls are going after anymore (dance/vip)- which for all purposes that is why you are there to make your money, please DO IT...
    Quote Originally Posted by idontcarehoe View Post
    i do like how you've broken it down, so i should have probably made it more clear, drinking between two of us is usually 2 or 3 rounds per hour + tip for waitress is still around 50-60 bux chunk gone... and songs are generally in that range with usually two "calls" for lap dances by the dj in that hour will go idle a few minutes of no stage action...so maybe 5-6 girls will split the other 150 we're throwing out. and trust me i know we're not keeping the place open but i figure we could be paying for dance after dance for 4 hours, but what fun is that.
    After running these through my Too Lazy-Texting Generation-Potentially Drunk/High-Poster translation software, what came back is either that: (1) you are not feeling the love for your stage tipping; and/or (2) you are disappointed with the focus on things other than stage performances. I think that about all anyone can really say to that is c'est la vie.

    Stage tipping is not what it once was, for lots of reasons. Consequently, girls won't normally kill themselves during a stage routine. Heck, in some places, the girls make so little from the stage that they try to avoid getting up there at all, instead opting to work the room. With house fees and tipouts to cover as well as minimum walk away needs, strippers must sell LDs/VIPs/CRs if they are going to make any money. And if you are not contributing to a particular dancer's cash flow then, to her, you are just background noise.

    Many clubs do have gimmicks to try to sell LDs, which sometimes involves leaving the stage empty for a couple of songs during some promotional moment. I don't like it either, but it is designed to help both the club and the girls make money. These promos are sometimes the only way to get a decent number of guys in the LD area. Net-net, it is simply something that we need to live with as SC customers.

    Anyway, there it is fwiw.
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