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    Hi,

    Ive been a long time lurker and you ladies have given me a wealth of info. Currently I've been doing body rubs (thanx to you guys :-) and am making about $1800 a week on average, which is good but I wouldnt mind making a little more.

    Now during my body rubs, I barely allow most guys to touch me, unless they're cute. I've been thinking about getting into the escort business a little lately. I would want to be an extremely low volume provider. Im not looking for big bucks in this venture. I dont date and I figure why not get some needs taken care of while getting paid for it?...BUT there's a dilemma, Im real shallow. Like the thought of an old and/or fat guy is gross (I wish I could do it but I cant). Im not looking for Ryan Reynolds but I would like to at least be somewhat physically attracted to him.

    Is it totally delusional to request pictures from "dates"? I mean, I know most guys wouldnt want to send them but do you think like 3 or 4 a week would (eventually)?

    Also, I have a question on rates...I charge $150 for body rubs (hands only!)....is $350 an hr reasonable for Philadelphia/NJ area?

    PS. Please dont freak out on me. This is a serious question. Just looking for some opinions.

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    I've had the same dilemma in trying to decide if I want to get into the business, and asked the ladies the same question. Most respond that you have to find something attractive about the person, (if not physical, at least in personality), and try to focus on that. But my feeling is that there will be many that don't have either physical or personal appeal.

    The only way around that that I can see is being an independent companion and therefore having more flexibility in controlling who you see, and who you don't. (I think if you're getting your own clients, instead of an agency getting them for you, you can probably get an idea of their appearance w/out even having to ask for photos, either by Google or Facebook, or other sites). But being independent requires a lot more work and many people starting out, (probably including myself) aren't ready for that.

    My guess is that part is hard for everyone, particularly at the beginning of your career. Over time, I'm sure ladies have ways of dealing with that part of the job in their own ways.

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    You're not going to make it as an escort honey. Stick to bodyrubs and save time.

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    I agree^ why go though the hassle if youre not going to make it worth it. Next time you ha e a cute custy you would fuck tell him you'll do him for xyz

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    I agree. I think you're best sticking to fbsm and offering more to clients that you feel attracted to. That way the less attractive ones won't expect it so they won't feel let down if all they get really is just a massage. The money you're making is pretty good for fbsm and I think that the amount of clients you'd get that are willing to provide pictures, AND pass screening AND you find them attractive, would be so low that it wouldn't be worth the time you'd put into it and the money you'd spend on things like incalls and advertising. I definitely don't think it would be as lucrative for you as fbsm seems to be. Also, what if you get a guy that is hot, and a complete douchebag from start to finish. I'd rather have a less attractive nice guy, than a sexy guy that pisses me off for every second of the appointment.


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    Default Re: Thinking about Escorting...but Im shallow.

    Ok, I see where you guys are coming from...but I dont know how to offer extras. How do you do it in a non tacky way? Like in the middle of the handjob, should I say "well I'll f*ck you for an extra $200"?

    Is there a "classy" way to offer extras? I mean, Ive done full service twice but thats because they offered me significant money and I was attracted to them.

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    Sweetie you're better off sticking to what you're currently doing. There is no such thing as an escort that only sees cute guys unless you want to go broke. However, its one of those thing you never know if you try. Although, something tells me you will be the running joke of the review boards.

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    Ok, Lovelyme...you've reiterated the same blatantly negative opinion twice now. If you think I'm a joke, you don't have to keep posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsSamyall View Post
    Ok, I see where you guys are coming from...but I dont know how to offer extras. How do you do it in a non tacky way? Like in the middle of the handjob, should I say "well I'll f*ck you for an extra $200"?

    Is there a "classy" way to offer extras? I mean, Ive done full service twice but thats because they offered me significant money and I was attracted to them.

    There really isn't a classy way to offer extras. Reality is others will find out, and then those others will expect the same thing from you. Worse, they will want you to do those extras for your body rub rate. It will be a slippery slope from there. You might as well just keep doing what you're doing without the extras, and save the sexing cute guys for your personal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsSamyall View Post
    Ok, Lovelyme...you've reiterated the same blatantly negative opinion twice now. If you think I'm a joke, you don't have to keep posting.
    I just told you you never know until you try and you think I'm being negative? You need a thicker skin.

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    Guys send me pics of themselves all the time and I'm not shallow, the problem is I'd rather be surprised then preemptively dread them lol. I think it'd be doable, but it doesn't sound like you'd be happy being an escort.

    I'd say keep doing your body rubs and find an attractive sugar daddy (if you're not an escort AND you'll have sex, it puts you in a rarer group) on the side.

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    Default Re: Thinking about Escorting...but Im shallow.

    Quote Originally Posted by idgaf_luvr View Post
    There really isn't a classy way to offer extras. Reality is others will find out, and then those others will expect the same thing from you. Worse, they will want you to do those extras for your body rub rate. It will be a slippery slope from there. You might as well just keep doing what you're doing without the extras, and save the sexing cute guys for your personal life.
    This. Customers talk, and soon, everyone who comes to you will know that you offer extras and will be upset if you won't give them to them. You're doing really well with just fbsm work, imo, so it would really suck to screw that up. And in addition to what everyone else has already said about escorting with such a limited client base not being worth your time, I'll add that also, only allowing clients who are attractive to see you or do more with you creates a very blurry line between your work and personal self. You already say that you barely allow guys to touch you... unless they're cute. If you were seeing a cute "date" and he wanted something more than what you agreed upon, or would leave unless you gave him a discount, but he was hot and you went through all the trouble to get him there so you wanted to fuck him... well, this wouldn't be very good for business or your reputation. There's nothing wrong with rejoicing in getting an attractive client, or in noticing that a different client is obese and not to your tastes, but if you'll only work with the first kind and dismiss the other's money, based on your personal feelings, that is not a very viable business model.

    Trying to say this in the nicest way possible, but if you have a problem with turning off your personal preferences and seeing customers as just customers, regardless of their hotness or ugliness, when you're working in the adult biz, then you should probably keep your work and personal sex life separate. Mixing the two can cause problems that could ruin your business.
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    A classy way to offer extras? LOL! That's like saying "A classy way to upsell". The guys don't like that.

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    I actually want a sugar daddy but they are just so freaking cheap these days...one of my regulars offered me $1500 a month for once a week and phone sex. I smiled and said "No thank you" but in my head im thinking "So you expect me to lay up with your fat self multiple hrs for $350 a day and then have to entertain you god knows how often with phone sex?!" WTH? I was sooooooooo insulted, I dont even want to see him again(I will still take his money for a body rub but Im repulsed by him inside).

    But I guess I will just stick to body rubs...

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    Upsell for the next visit, like That was fun. If your interested in more next time, let's talk!

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    I do believe there is a classy way to upsell (I don't know what it is, but in my experience dancing, several of the classiest, gorgeous top earners managed to upsell for "more" in the VIP rooms, so it must be possible. I doubt they stepped out of their high-dollar persona for a minute to say "so...wanna fuck for an extra $500?"

    That being said, I really agree with what another poster saying on here about how guys talk online (in fact, they don't shut up) and it will get around like wildfire that you're open to extras. Then, ugly guys will expect it and when they don't get it, at best they'll get pissed off and badmouth your reputation to other guys. At worst, they could get angry and even forceful, knowing that not only are you not giving it to them when you do give it to others, but that it's apparently because they're not hot enough for you. Plus, because it's an upsell and not a set price, you'll get guys trying to negotiate, or expecting it as part of your usual rate, not an extra cost. You might find you get a ton of bookings from guys who don't want to keep the appointment/pay once they realize all they're getting is a massage. If you're going to escort, or really even upsell, I'd suggest a whole new persona (again, a lot of time, effort and money) so that it doesn't interfere with your current fbsm. You seem to be doing well with it and if I was you, I wouldn't risk that on such a risky venture as "doing more but only with sexy clients"

    ETA: I have a friend who does fbsm, and she's just started escorting. She started all over with a whole new website, different photo's, different emails etc... no links to her fbsm-self at all. It's really the only way to do it if you want to do both without risking both.


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    ^exactly, and if you don't like escorting, you can delete all that stuff and go back to only doing the fbsm whereas if you start doing both under the same name, then you might have to scrap it and start your FBSM reputation all over again.

    guys can be such a pain when it comes to the review board.
    Ungoogle yourself:


    Also, now offering phone sexins!

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    Shallow is not a good feature for an escort...... I find it interesting to read all the negative comments about review boards...... Now while many of the posters on these boards can be..... how to say this.... A pain in the ass..... Review boards increase the customer base tremendously....... Imagine trying to get into the business and making good money quickly without any boards...... It would be a lot harder I think.
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    It is completely possible to understand the logical function of something and still be irritated by it its application in reality.

    A customer perspective = / = understanding its application for the provider on her business end in reality

    Complaints about a part of a business as the provider = / = do away with its total utility wholesale

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    @Miss_McKenna

    If I were to start escorting, It would definitely be separate from my body rub business. A lot of my regulars respect that I dont do "extras" or full service even though they would love the chance to sleep with me (or at least thats what they lie and tell me). I wouldnt want to jeopardize that perception or risk hurting their feelings when I dont offer them the chance at full service. I love giving body rubs and genuinely interacting with my customers and making them feel good...but having sex with all of them would be a different story.

    I live in a big metropolitan area so I dont have to worry about a small town or being recognized. So they probably wouldnt even be able to tell it was me if I put up some new pictures and had a new name for an escort site. It would just be super hard leading a triple life, lol

    Like I said, it was just something I just wanted to do 2 or 3 times a week at most. And I think mostly everyone is thinking that Im looking for someone super hot. My main gripe is with fat/severely out of shape men, men with bad hygiene, and old men (older than 55).

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    wow, I can think of a lot of sexy 55 year old men ! In fact I can think of more sexy 55 year olds , than I can pre 30 year olds ...diff strokes I guess... But you're missing out ;-) lol http://images.stanzapub.com/readers/.../261549_16.jpg droooooooooooools

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    To be honest, I get just as many calls in my body rub business
    that is not affiliated with any review board as I do with my escort
    business where I mainly advertise on review boards. The main difference -and the thing that they are good for- is that the "review board" guys are more willing to be screened. If I were you I would do what you were thinking about and keep them separate...that way you
    don't have that pressure to sleep with those you don't want to and they can't sabotage "all" your business if you don't want to "go there"
    with some of them lol!

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    I would def have to agree with the others on saying there really isn't a classy way to upsell these guys BUT what I have done is after our session I would say something like "I had an amazing time and I feel that we had a great connection, if you would enjoy a more mutually satisfying experience then the opportunity is there if you would like to explore it..." or something along those lines...

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    @ukmissy

    Im from Philly/NJ...90% of the men here over 55 are (severely) out of shape. This isn't the west coast (or even NYC) where the people are more active and there's a gym on every corner. People here lead a more sedentary lifestyle and tend to be less fit especially as age increases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsSamyall View Post
    @ukmissy

    Im from Philly/NJ...90% of the men here over 55 are (severely) out of shape. This isn't the west coast (or even NYC) where the people are more active and there's a gym on every corner. People here lead a more sedentary lifestyle and tend to be less fit especially as age increases.

    This is so true.

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