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    Some clubs I've visited feature a line-up and parade of dancers on stage. The DJ introduces each girl by name, she struts the length of the stage and then waits for all the others to be presented in the same way. When the line-up is complete, they parade as a group.

    I saw this done every hour in one club, for the benefit of newly-arrived customers. In other clubs it's done once or twice an evening (or not at all in many places).

    From a dancer's point of view, is this kind of presentation a useful showcase or a waste of time? I've framed some poll questions - thanks in advance, as always, for your feedback.

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    I put total waste of time because I've rarely heard customers really remark on it except when it also involves a strip but I don't believe it entices them to spend money - it may entice customers to come in but usually just for the free show. I don't think the guys are going to remember everyone's names and while they may see a girl they like they would've seen her on the floor anyway. Also it doesn't really give you the chance to showcase your talent like a solo stage performance does.

    However I am actually interested on what guys think of this. Are you completely indifferent to the event? Does it entice you to buy danced? Or would you rather have those girls approachable on the floor than doing a lack-lustre parade about?

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    From a customer's perspective, it is a good way to see who is at the club. Some girls disappear in the back alot or are in the VIP area. I do prefer that a dancer approach me in a more casual way though.

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    My club of choice as a spending customer used to do "cattle calls" as the girls termed them once every single shift except Friday and Saturday nights. It was a prelude to the one opportunity to do a 2 for 1 that shift. The 20 to 50 girls would march in line onto the stage en masse, be identified by the DJ, and then leave the stage to try to sell a 2 for 1. And they had to wear a gown to do it. They absolutely hated it but I think they were more put off by having to push hard for the 2 for 1 or face the consequences from management. I also think they didn't like the very competitive aspect of the whole thing. There were fines for missing the call and they tended to stick out if they didn't sell a dance. I was often asked well ahead of time to participate in that particular dance. I don't believe they do it any longer but I've stopped visiting so i don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bem401 View Post
    They absolutely hated it but I think they were more put off by having to push hard for the 2 for 1 or face the consequences from management.
    LOL, I THOUGHT we I knew what club you were talking about until I read this line Bem. Consequences from management for not selling a 2-fer dance? Never heard that from any dancer ever at your "club of choice". Why would they even care? There were no t-shirts to sell and the club only made $5 for the two dances! While the cattle call was required (unless the lady was in the CR with a customer) many girls never went out of their way to sell the 2 for 1 dance. I'm going to go out on a limb here and float the idea that any dancer who told you there were "consequences" was simply trying to sell you a dance...

    LOL, Exactly what consequences where involved? Sorry but I can't stop laughing here....

    By the way, two-fers are still in effect on most days though the gown requirement is gone...
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    LOL, I THOUGHT we I knew what club you were talking about until I read this line Bem. Consequences from management for not selling a 2-fer dance? Never heard that from any dancer ever at your "club of choice". Why would they even care? There were no t-shirts to sell and the club only made $5 for the two dances! While the cattle call was required (unless the lady was in the CR with a customer) many girls never went out of their way to sell the 2 for 1 dance. I'm going to go out on a limb here and float the idea that any dancer who told you there were "consequences" was simply trying to sell you a dance...

    LOL, Exactly what consequences where involved? Sorry but I can't stop laughing here....

    By the way, two-fers are still in effect on most days though the gown requirement is gone...
    Consequence #1....they could be forced to be the lone stage girl (when they otherwise were almost never alone) for the 15 minutes the special lasted.
    Consequence #2....management definitely pressured them to sell that particular dance, especially during the dayshift for some reason. I never saw why myself. I know there was no extra money in it for them but I guess they like seeing all the booths full or maybe there was a skim going on. I asked my friends why they all seemed to try so hard for that dance and they said that management paid attention to who didn't sell dances then and the girls didn't want to ruffle management's feathers. It was important enough for them to ask me sometimes an hour or more ahead of time if I'd bail them out if necessary.

    The last several dances I did were 2 for 1 "bailouts" for the club's reputed top earner years ago. Making money was never an issue for her but she always did her best to be "booked" for those 2 songs. And the last one or 2 of those, she only charged me the booth fee and didn't bother disrobing. She just wanted to be sure she was in a booth for some reason.
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    LOL, having to do a stage set is a "consequence" Bem? That's part of the job. Remember? As for your other point, I think your friends may have been a bit paranoid. Maybe I'm guilty of only hanging out with highly productive strippers but in all of the days and nights that I've spent in that club I've never had one fav worry about selling a 2 for 1 dance after the cattle call. Sure they ask, that's their job too...
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    ^^^Yes, to these girls, running the risk of having to do an extra stage set was seen as a consequennce. They tried to avoid the stage like the plague. General consensus was one of the sisters was the club's top earner. Then again, it is entirely possible sales tactics were being used as well. I'm only reporting my first hand experience and observations. One of my friends was definitely paranoid and others had esteem issues as well. Like you, I never saw the 2 for 1 as a big deal, but for some reason they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoda57us View Post
    LOL, having to do a stage set is a "consequence" Bem? That's part of the job. Remember? As for your other point, I think your friends may have been a bit paranoid. Maybe I'm guilty of only hanging out with highly productive strippers but in all of the days and nights that I've spent in that club I've never had one fav worry about selling a 2 for 1 dance after the cattle call. Sure they ask, that's their job too...
    I'm going to agree with most of this in the context of bem's list of dire consequences. I will say, though, that I have been in a couple of clubs where the consequences were more real. In one club that I visit a few times a year in South Carolina, the girls "buy the shot" if they cannot sell a 2-for-1, which comes with a free shot of some crappy concoction. In a club that I visited once in NC, girls who did not sell their 2-for-1s were sent to the "punishment stage", which was a stage in a dark corner near absolutely nothing that was nearly guaranteed to earn them zilch for tips or product advertising.

    As to Amareth's question regarding whether guys like cattle calls, I for one am not fond of them. However, they are an inevitable part of strip clubbing, so in the end one must learn to graciously tolerate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I'm going to agree with most of this in the context of bem's list of dire consequences. I will say, though, that I have been in a couple of clubs where the consequences were more real.
    Oh, I completely agree rick but that's part of the reason I'm LOL'ing about this in the first place. There IS a club in Providence where two-fers are sold once every hour along with a "free" t-shirt. The only catch is that that girls have to buy the shirt from the club regardless of weather they end up selling the dance special or not.
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    ^^^ Having to do a solo stage set would be considered a dire consequence for girls who hated stage sets even with 3 or 4 other girls on with them. These were girls who did their best to book booths a minute or 2 before their stage sets began all shift long. They had real aversions to the stage. Two of these girls were not interested in CD because it required solo stage sets and one only went there as a last resort. I often struggled to rationalize why they felt the way they did about different aspects of the business but there was no changing their minds in this regard.
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    I like them at my regular club, gives me an idea of who is there that night.

    Also like them if they're associated with a 2 for 1 at a club I'm visting.

    Not a fan of the t-shirt, hat, etc. giveaway.

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    The club I frequent only does a roll call once at the 9 pm shift change. Works for me as I get to see which ladies are working as opposed to have them wander out for the next half hour. Club uses it to record the ladies that are there and their arrival time. If they make the 9 pm roll call, their rent is lower. Only problem I have seen is the ladies come running in at the last minute...throw on an outfit to 'beat the system' and then retire to the dressing room for the next half hour getting ready.

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    Whatever Bem. The fact that your friends didn't like stage sets is pretty much irrelevant to what we are talking about here and is hardly something that the club or it's management is thinking about when they schedule a dance special...sheesh!
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    You're right, whatever. But the OP asked what dancers' impressions were about "cattle calls". I was merely passing along the impressions given me by dancers I knew regarding them. That's exactly what the OP was looking for....sheesh! And BTW, making my friends (and any other dancers) happy was one of the club's least important concerns back in its heyday. Nowhere did I ever say it was something management should have cared about.
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    I have only seen the cattle calls during promo/2fer times, never as simply an introduction to the dancers on shift. The only times I encourage this is when the dance prices are so expensive (like in some "upscale" clubs here in LA) that the cattle-call is the only time the dancers even bother to leave the dressing room, since they know it's almost impossible to sell dances full price. But other than this scenario I dislike the cattle call immensely, since it often will pull a dancer away from your table to parade on stage, leaving you not only vulnerable to the sea of girls flooding the floor looking to make a sale, but in jeopardy of losing your dancer to a pushy PL who intercepts her as she's leaving the stage after the parade .

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    I have never even heard of this whole "cattle call" idea, and for that I am eternally grateful. It sounds awkward and awful for everyone involved.
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    However I am actually interested on what guys think of this. Are you completely indifferent to the event? Does it entice you to buy danced? Or would you rather have those girls approachable on the floor than doing a lack-lustre parade about?
    For me they are pretty much a waste of time and, quite often, an interruption in my efforts to spend money on a particular lady. I've never known a dancer who looked forward to them...
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    Most of the clubs I worked at did this, usually at the beginning and at the end of the shift, sometimes in the middle. The DJ would introduce all by name and we would go onstage. True story but once I had a dancer try to trip me, I pushed her, and so did another dancer who hated her too. These were never topless or nude when I did these, we had to be covered. Oh and we also did this when we were going to do dollar dances.

    I usually got dances right after this and so it paid off for me. Related to this, but I was always the first dancer ready to go on stage because 99% of the time I got several dances from this.

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    As a customer, I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I like to see the lineup of who all the different dancers are. On the flip side, the actual application/execution of "cattle call" has some annoyances. Some regional variations:

    1) One midwestern club thankfully doesn't do 2fers/silly promos. They have an all dancers on stage sometime after 10pm, including the VIP's. I try not to do VIP's near this time.

    2) Two different L.A. clubs do all dancers call sporadically. In both cases, parade is cursory/quick with DJ timing/pace of names off. I couldn't place half of the dancers names rattled off with a particular dancer.

    3) One Florida club does the promo thing, but at least I could place the dancers names correctly. Another FL club in same area often calls 3fers, but inconsistent about parading dancers on stage. The higher tier of dance options don't get interrupted by this call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amareth View Post
    However I am actually interested on what guys think of this. Are you completely indifferent to the event? Does it entice you to buy danced? Or would you rather have those girls approachable on the floor than doing a lack-lustre parade about?
    When visiting a new club it's neat to see the girls presented in this way. The parade allows you to exclude some dancers from your calculations because you find them less appealing than others.

    In general, the "cattle call" is part of men's fantasy about cute, scantily-clad women being "served up" to entertain them. That's an illusion, of course, because the stripper controls the interaction with her customer. But many guys are shallow and entirely visual in the way they react to a line-up of beautiful women. It's almost ritualistic, I think, and the formal nature of the presentation adds to that sense.

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    It helps me define where I might be spending my money, given that half my visits are not made with a complete awareness of who will be working during my visit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnow View Post
    As a customer, I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I like to see the lineup of who all the different dancers are. On the flip side, the actual application/execution of "cattle call" has some annoyances. Some regional variations:

    1) One midwestern club thankfully doesn't do 2fers/silly promos. They have an all dancers on stage sometime after 10pm, including the VIP's. I try not to do VIP's near this time.
    I've never liked this aspect of that club, but have recently learned from a dancer that had moved to another club that a purpose of it was managing when dancers qualify for completing their shift. Apparently they do this earlier in day also.

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    I've noticed that in smaller clubs (say 20 dancers maximum) the intros of the girls and their parade is sometimes done at a slower pace. This allows each girl to present herself more individually to the audience, and it also improves name-recognition.

    One downside for some girls is that the element of competition between them is increased. For example, if a super-hot babe (rated 9+ by the guys) is followed by a less attractive girl, the sound of silence for the second performer can be daunting and off-putting.

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