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    I get lots of guys who tell me that they are not into dances and then they pull out $20( the price of one dance) and give it to me. I keep sitting with them, but they do not end up giving more even if I ask them again later if they want dance. Should I just take off once they give me money or is there a way to convince them to buy dance from me? I was just thinking if they can give money for nothing, then they can buy a great deal of dances? Happened to anybody else?

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    Default Re: Guys that are NOT INTO DANCES!?

    Maybe they are telling you that they do not want the dance, but pay you for your conversation/ company. I would not take the money and go, I would talk to them for the duration of the dance and then move on if they say that they do not care to pay for any more of your time.

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    Default Re: Guys that are NOT INTO DANCES!?

    They may prefer to watch the stage show.





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    Default Re: Guys that are NOT INTO DANCES!?

    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    They obviously don't want dances but like your company. But $20 shouldn't buy much of your company. If they refuse to tip you more for your time, move on.
    Exactly. Some guys just really don't want dances. We have a regular at my club that will keep slipping you fifties every few songs. He's not too poor to buy dances, that's for sure, but he'd rather just watch the stage shows and chat and have a few drinks with the girls.

    How much is a dance at your club?

    If somebody buys a dance, I keep $12. If they tip me $20, I keep it all. I'd sit and chat for a couple songs ($20 worth), and then move on.

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    Default Re: Guys that are NOT INTO DANCES!?

    yeah, stay for a few more minutes, then ask them, "we are having sooo much fun, would you like me to stay?" hopefully they'll get the point. if not, be a little more obvious and say "well i'd like to get some more dances so i can make quota tonight but i can stay here with you if you want to buy me out " wink wink. if they still dont get it move on.

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    Default Re: Guys that are NOT INTO DANCES!?

    But see, how do you tell them to pay you for sitting down and chatting with them?
    On rare ocassions, I do have people that give me money for chatting to them.. But how do you say it without sounding like you're entitled to it?
    "Do you have tips for chatting to me?" I don't know...

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    If there are other potential customers in the club i would stay for 10 mins then explain that i have to go and try and make more money.If they dont offer me more money then i would leave.If the club was dead and they were buying me drinks i would stay...as long as they werent a total asshole.

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    I don't like to sit and talk to the customers for more than a song or two. If they want more time, I tell them that although I enjoy the conversation I am working and will have to begin charging them to stay. Most the time they will pay for more time. If not, they understand and I move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Su Su View Post
    But see, how do you tell them to pay you for sitting down and chatting with them?
    On rare ocassions, I do have people that give me money for chatting to them.. But how do you say it without sounding like you're entitled to it?
    "Do you have tips for chatting to me?" I don't know...
    At my home club dances are 10 bucks. When they tell me that they want me to sit and talk I just say that it is 10 bucks either way. I also have a line that I work in at times. When I have been chatting up a custy for a few minutes for a dance and they say they really enjoy talking, etc, I tell them that I would love to stay because I know they will respect my time:-)
    That line really does work.

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    I say it depends on how dead the club is. If it's really busy and you can make $ elsewhere, chat for a few minutes, a song or two then go if he doesn't have anything else for you, but if it's dead and you don't have anything better to do well...imo sitting and chatting is less work for me, I don't have to get naked, no one is touching me, so I would sit for longer, maybe as long as 4 songs, again, I think this depends on your club/how interesting the person is to talk to. If they're not into dances ask if there's anything else you can do to help them relax, like giving them a massage or shoulder rub or something, and put a price on that per song/per time slot (ie. 15 min, half an hour). You can alternatively try to get them to pay full price for massages per song, as if you were giving dances, and use a massage as a way to get them over to the dance booth, how you sell it depends on the customer.

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    Default Re: Guys that are NOT INTO DANCES!?

    If a guy says he doesn't want dances but wants company he should know your time is money. Therefore he should not be offended by you asking to be paid to chat with him. If he is offended by that then he's not worth your time.

    You can say "Wow Johnny, we are having a wonderful chat right now. I enjoy the company as much as you, but I rely on tips during downtime. Would you like to start with $20 so I can spend more time chatting with you?"

    If he says yes, take the tip and spend 1-2 songs (depending on how busy it is) and then ask again.

    If he says no politely excuse yourself.
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    Default Re: Guys that are NOT INTO DANCES!?

    Don't sit for too long, but don't forget to ask for a dance before you get up.

    He may be waiting for someone or someone to hustle him harder.

    Not all guys want a dance and that may be the case.




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    "I enjoy your company, but I rely on tips" ^^^
    I like that one.
    Also, never let a guy say something like, sit down, relax, I'll take care of you, don't worry. Bullshit. I've seen girls very upset when they fell for that, wound up spending like 2 hours chatting and drinking with some guy and then he'd hand her a 50 and walk off.
    If a guy wants you to sit and chat, treat it just like a VIP room, let him know how much $ is ok for how much time. Usually I'm ok with slightly less than CR prices, since I won't be dancing just hanging out, there's no tipout, so I'm willing to split that difference with the customer.

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    Default Re: Guys that are NOT INTO DANCES!?

    At my club, there's quite a few guys that have money but just aren't into dances. They don't have a problem spending, so what I normally do is grab a girlfriend and ask if he would like to watch me dance for her. Then my friend and I take turns dancing for each other.

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    All of the above, some of the guys who dont want dances have the "knight in shining armor" complex, theyd rather pay you to stay & hang out because they percieve the guys getting dances as big pervs. I understand not eanting to come across as entitled, one way around this is to make it seem like management is running a tight ship, say"oh, I would really love to stay with you, but you know im supposed to be selling dances" if he really wants to spend time with you sell him VIP, then you are off rotation & can really focus on him.

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    @missykrissy - What do you say to those guy who tell you, "Don't worry, I'll take care of you." Because, you're right.....they usually won't or their estimate of what "taking care of you" means is waaay lower than what is acceptable to you, 9 times out of 10. Is there a way to tactfully ask for the money upfront, perhaps?

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    This happens to me fairly often. I act all appreciative, take the money, stand with them another few minutes, ask again, tell them they can continue to pay for my time if they like? That often gets me more money or a drink (I sometimes say I am driving even if I'm not and ask them to tip me instead) depending on the vibe I get for the customer , i/e whether I know they'll continue to pay for dances but not have me dance for them, I may stand with them a little longer or just tell them thanks and go.
    I like it when it happens in clubs where they take a percentage rather than set fee-it means I get money without a payout from the money..
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