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    Default Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    Ok, so I said I was not going to ask anymore, but I am here again

    as I told you one of the reason my gf (sorry “unbelievable” I had to mention her again) quite working at the club was because of all the new rules, and because of the stupid new law of lap dancing. where the customer is not a loud to touch the dancer in anyway, and the dancer have to stand 2ft away from the cus during a private show.

    Anyway. here are some of the new rules the manger have the girls follow when they work at the club. I love to hear what you guys think both from a cus and dancers view. I think some of them are unfair. Also the manger of the club is women

    1. You must be ready for work at the exact opening time. This means in costume, make-up on, sitting at the club having already finished eating, and having cleaned up your area. I you come to work more than 5min late without notifying the manger, your penalty is 300kr. NO Exceptions.
    2. Remember that no girls have ever made any money by sitting in the dressing rom. So don’t sit there with out any reason(they are not aloud to be there for more then 2-3min then manager will come)
    3. When you are in the club, without company sit in the area of the bar where the customers can see you from the entrance door.
    4. When a bottle is being bought for the table, the commission is being split between the girls that are there when it is being opened. Exceptions is if the customer specifically has asked for more girls and they cant be brought to the table and the at very moment, or if the original girls offer the commission themselves. (this one I think is truly unfair, as the other girls can just sit back and wait for one of them to get the cus to buy a bottle and when they see the cus order the bottle they go and sit at the table and the other girls have to split the commission with the other girl(s))
    5. No mobile phones in the club (ok)
    6. No chewing gum in the club (ok)
    7. Only 2 girls can smoke at the same time, a girl who come to smoke with there customer has fist priority even if the 2 girls are already smoking.
    8. Stay in the area front of the entrance door when you are not busy and welcome customers as they come through the door. Help us to get the customers that in the doubt to visit us. (ok, I guess)
    9. You can only be tipped with real money when you are on stage, doing your show. When you are sitting with the customer. In the club or doing private show, any money given to you shall be change into “string money” if you don’t do that it is classed as stealing from the club (any tip you get outside the stage, the club keeps now 40% of )???
    10. Your are expected to have 3 different show routines on stage, menaing 3 sets of 2 songs per show and a different outfit on each. One show is to be minimum 7 min
    11. Don’t waste time when you are told to go on stage, when you are ready go to the stage and start your show. (even when they are with customer they have go on stage, or in private with a cus)
    12. Don’t go to the private during a stage show if you and your customer are the only one in the club.
    13. They have to dance on stage even when there is no cutomers in the club, so there is always one girl dancing when a customer comes to the club

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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    What's the problem?

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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    I think 2 and 12 are a bit unfair. If you're doing a long shift you should be able to have 15 min break here and there, also if you want to change outfit and re-apply make up that can take more than5mins. And if there's no one else in the club it shouldn't matter if you do a dance, I don't understand why they wouldn't want you to make money if they're taking a big cut.

    4 probably needs to be tweaked to make sure if certain girls did all the work getting the guy to buy champagne other girls can't just come and take their commission, but other than that flaw you pointed out seems pretty fair.

    Most clubs I've worked at have rules 10 & 11, several have had 13 and it's never been an issue.

    The rest of the rules, about sitting in certain spots and trying to get customers in may seem a bit silly but they're totally harmless and easy to carry out.

    The 2 ft barrier kind of sucks, especially if other clubs in the area have contact it can make it hard but it is safer for the girls.

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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    Clubs always have bullshit rules. ALWAYS.

    I'm not even miffed by anything you wrote with the exception of one rule* (more on that later). When clubs think up new rules/regulations I have a tendency to say "oh well... what will those crazy mofos think of next?". And usually, within a month or two they come up with even more crazy regulations that you couldn't have even imagined.

    But yeah. Most of these stupid rules aren't anything earth-shatteringly new. Just the same-old-same-old Bullshit.



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    Number 9 is weird. In fact it really bothers me.


    9. You can only be tipped with real money when you are on stage, doing your show. When you are sitting with the customer. In the club or doing private show, any money given to you shall be change into “string money” if you don’t do that it is classed as stealing from the club (any tip you get outside the stage, the club keeps now 40% of )???
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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    I can't really see them even enforcing the dressing room rule. It would be a big waste a manager's time to go back there every two minutes and I'm sure that would just sort itself out. We aren't allowed to hang out in our dressing room either.

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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    @Sophia, I think "string money" must mean funny money or club tokens or something. I've worked at a few clubs that do this. Before you go for a dance the customer buys dance tokens from the bar which you keep and exchange for real money at the end of the night, I assume it's to ensure all the dances you do are recorded/declared correctly so they get all their money.

    It is kind of worrying you have to pay out 40% of dance tips though (I guess maybe that's more what you were referring to). Though I have also worked at a club that did this it was pretty easy to hide the tips from management.

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    Yeah I worked in club where they took 30% of everything, any tips or anything they wanted to change into tokens. It's not right. Suppose it was to stop people doing extras for Łx, also a way to take more money from us. It actually made me behave worse, hiding tips and trying to get one over on the club, and have a negative attitude to the club.

    A lot of those rules seem like things that happen anyway, maybe some dancers are just so ditzy/crazy it's better ot lay it all out there. I just think when there are soo many micromanging rules it just creates a pissy atmosphere.

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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    I have to agree, #9 is the only one that seems over-the-top to me. While it may be a butt-pain when a club adds new rules where there were none before it's generally done to solve a problem that is happening in the club. Laziness, bad attitude etc. At one time or another I've heard of every one of the rules you mentioned...other than #9.
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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    i would not be able to work in a club with such insane rules. where are you guys from? how can you be ok with any of this? especially numbers 2, 4, 9 and 11. there is no way i could bank following these rules.

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    I wouldn't last in that club in half hour. I'd tell them to go fly a kite. Fuck that.

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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sophia_Starina View Post
    Clubs always have bullshit rules. ALWAYS.

    I'm not even miffed by anything you wrote with the exception of one rule* (more on that later). When clubs think up new rules/regulations I have a tendency to say "oh well... what will those crazy mofos think of next?". And usually, within a month or two they come up with even more crazy regulations that you couldn't have even imagined.

    But yeah. Most of these stupid rules aren't anything earth-shatteringly new. Just the same-old-same-old Bullshit.



    * This rule is not cute.
    Number 9 is weird. In fact it really bothers me.


    9. You can only be tipped with real money when you are on stage, doing your show. When you are sitting with the customer. In the club or doing private show, any money given to you shall be change into “string money” if you don’t do that it is classed as stealing from the club (any tip you get outside the stage, the club keeps now 40% of )???
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    i would not be able to work in a club with such insane rules. where are you guys from? how can you be ok with any of this? especially numbers 2, 4, 9 and 11. there is no way i could bank following these rules.
    Thank you its been great inputs from all of you so far. This club is in Norway. So the rules is generally a bit different from the US I think.

    In regards to the private dance and no touching, is because of the law is unclear, and the clubs are waiting for what is ok and not, as we all know the politicians and DA is not putting a rush on this… what a shocker!!!.

    Some of you reacted to rule 9 and agree this one I think is wrong, the customer have to change the money to “funny money” if they want to tip the girls in private, or if they give them money in private the girls have to change the money for string money, and then get the money from there.

    I also did forget to mention that they are not aloud anymore to give out there nr to cus. Witch is not good, as this makes it harder for the girls to get regulars, unless you have been for a while. Second, the owner called my gf last week asking if she could come back to work for a few weeks, as he is short on girls right now. This club has never had a shortest of girls wanting to work at the club, and now he is having a hard time get girls, I Think a lot of it has to do with that the rules and that they cant touch the cus anymore in private,

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    Default Re: Reasonable rules...?? what do u think?

    From a customer's point of view, some of the rules are kind of stupid, but I see what they're trying to do. They're trying to make sure that the girls are visible to the customers and working the floor instead of hanging out in the dressing room or out the back door taking collective smoke breaks. I can understand why the club would take this tack. If customers come into the club and see only 2 or 3 girls at any given time, they're going to think this club is lame and take their money elsewhere. A smart dancer won't need these rules because she'll be hustling anyway. But for a new dancer or someone who's maybe not as motivated, I think the general policy of keeping girls on the floor instead of in the dressing room is a good policy and will help those girls to make more money as well.

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    Are you in Norway?Oslo?the club is called Strings?I worked in a club in Bergen for one week.They had loads of stupid rules too.I cant handle working in Norway....too much bullshit.I like working in Denmark though its so much more relaxed.

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    9 is ridiculous. A dancer taking a full TIP given to HER is not stealing from the club.

    I would take issue with the dressing room thing. This job takes it's toll. It's not easy to be flirting it up 6-8+ hours straight. And not everyone smokes, so to only be allowed a 2 minute DR break but allow smoke breaks? Are the smoke breaks only 2 minutes long as well? Hmmm, highly doubt it... May as well take up smoking so you can take a 10 minute break without being yelled at... ffs

    I know dancers can be lazy and they don't want everyone sitting in the DR all night, but sometimes you just gotta chill for 10 minutes and check your phone and stuff. Shit, even "real jobs" give you more than 2 minute breaks to not be bothered. I think this one also riles me up for the fact that I know that all they care about is their cut of your money. "No dancer makes money in the dressing room." LOL Like they would give a shit how much you make if they weren't taking a cut out of every little bit of it. They don't care about you, they don't even care about the customers and your visibility to them. They're just being little pimps and getting on your ass because they want a bigger payout off your effort. Well, guess what - I'm not an employee and I'm paying to work there, not the other way around, so I'll put in the effort I want to put in and make the money that I want to make, and your cut of it does not concern me.

    And 12 is fucking asinine. So if you're the only dancer out there, and you have the only customer wanting to pay for private time, you can't make money and instead have to keep dancing for an empty room + the one customer who could be paying you a lot more, just in case someone else eventually walks in? Fuck that noise.

    The rest would be annoying, but I could probably live with them if the club was a decent money-maker.
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    I agree with everyone else that number nine is just ridiculous. I am the GFE type and have had men tip me literally THOUSANDS at one time just to talk to me (ok one guy and he was a regular, but you get the point.) There is NO WAY I would hand that cash to my club! It isn't unusual for me to make a couple hundred a shift in tips from dances and conversation. That would def change my hustle and not work well during a day shift, when it is dead and a lot of men want the GFE and to spend money on alcohol rather than VIP or dancing. The club still gets there because I am ordering more drinks to compensate. I guess I would just tell the guys to tip me on stage.

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    Not being a stripper I still think that these rules are overly restrictive and controlling. No doubt written by a manager with too much time on their hands. Usually strippers are treated as independent contractors. The reason for this is so that the clubs don’t have to follow state and federal labor laws. With these kinds of rules in the US it wouldn’t take a smart lawyer much effort to show that the strippers were here being treated as employees, thus the club would be in violation of labor laws.

    A more common sense approach is just one simple rule: Show up and do your thing when scheduled or next week you may not be on the schedule. That is how independent contractors are supposed to be treated. You don’t hire someone to cut your grass and then try to lay all kinds of “when you can take a break rules” and pay them less because they showed up 2 minutes late.

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