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    Default Re: Will Americans work for $11 / hour anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kisca View Post
    Your kidding right? Where I live, and the biggest cities in Canada have high rentals and the houses are STARTING at 250k for ~600-700sqft condos. You wont even find a house under 500k away from the city for under 500k. Our gas, food, and retail is more expensive, even the big chain restaurants and retailors that are in the US and CND have higher prices for the same item than the US. Our taxes our higher everytime we buy mostly every little item gets 13% slapped on. Where I live around, you will not find anything under ~$700-800/monthly rent which are only basement apartment, then shitty 1BDRM aparments only start around 1000+ monthly, if you want an average decent housing in a safe area you're expected to pay an average of 1300 for a 1BD. Then with 11$ for min wage before taxes you cant bearly live off that.

    Interesting. I heard differently from Canadian co-workers. But hey, thanks for telling me your point of view. I guess I'm traumatized with the insane cost of rent in the NYC metro area. I have a bit of a skewed view. I appreciate your input.
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    Default Re: Will Americans work for $11 / hour anymore?

    yea it's expensive as hell in toronto. it's funny how you can make well over $100k and still feel pinched.

    income tax on bonuses and commissions are the worst....46%

    i think the biggest difference in prices aside from cars and real estate is alcohol. cheapest you can get a 6pack of beer for is $12 (which is over an hour of work for that $11/hr job!)

    With all this being said, prices in real estate have skyrocketed because Canada is going through somewhat of a boom. Toronto has over 100 condo buildings under construction right now. Western Canada is growing exponentially because of the Oil Sands and Natural Gas Deposits. Labrador Iron Mines are growing, Newfoundland offshore Oil.

    with this comes higher prices. You can't even get a 2 storey home in little old Ford McMurray, Alberta for under $1.5M

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    Default Re: Will Americans work for $11 / hour anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanOzz View Post
    income tax on bonuses and commissions are the worst....46%
    This has no basis in reality.

    Bonus or commission is taxes at your normal tax rate, not a standard 46%.

    And heres a 3 bedroom house in Ft (NOT FORD) McMurray for significantly less than $1.5m lol

    http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetail...dKey=566525540
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    Default Re: Will Americans work for $11 / hour anymore?

    oh yes i see that now. i was on some lady named rita's real estate site.


    regardless, expensive as hell for a little town in the middle of nowhere wayyyyy up north. it's also sold 'as-is'

    and i still pay 46% on my commissions so to me, that is the worst.

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    Default Re: Will Americans work for $11 / hour anymore?

    what??? anymore??? The way the economy is, that 11$ is now 9.50$ for the same job.

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    Default Re: Will Americans work for $11 / hour anymore?

    Quote Originally Posted by kristy11 View Post
    Quite a few misconceptions about Canada in here.

    The cost of living in Canada is higher...............WAAAAAY higher than in the US.

    Across the board, Federal tax is 5% on any purchase. Depending on which province you reside in, you pay an additional tax. In Ontario, that extra tax is 8%.

    So, if you buy a new pair of shoes, you pay a total of 13% in tax on top of it.

    Depending on your salary, you basically pay nothing with an annual salary below $25,000. The average salary is $59,000 in Ontario. Tax on that is roughly 30%. If you get a bonus, you're taxed around 46% on your bonus.

    Here's great comparison. Take a car like a Toyota Camry bought brand new. Buy it from a dealership in NY State and it'll cost you $25,000. Buy it in Ontario, Canada and that car will cost you $35,000. Now ask yourself, if the Canadian Dollar is worth $0.97 USD, why the hell am I paying an additional $10,000 for the same car and the only difference between the two is that they are separated by an imaginary line?????

    As to answer the $11 question, people have become spoiled. $11 jobs are usually jobs that most people feel are beneith them. When a welfare check is almost as close to monthly earnings at an $11/hr part time job (which most are), you may as well just sit at home and do nothing.

    My solution to this. Dump welfare.

    A problem that we were having up here for the longest time is so-call "seasonal workers" collecting Unemployment Insurance when they aren't working within the season of their job. For instance, if you're in certain kinds of fishing industries, you can only fish for 5-6 months per year. Currently, if you're in this industry, you then take the other 6 months on Unemployment. That's right...............you get paid for not working. Well the government has finally realized that the current system is no longer sustainable. So, what they're doing is changing the law so that if you are in seasonalized work, once you're finished you need to find another job doing anything as you'll no longer qualify for unemployment for consecutive years.

    I hope you're kidding. There is over $54 billion surplus with UI fund. We all pay into. It is hard to get UI and because you jump through hoops. The government should either lower the premiums on UI or give out more in whatever form. It's highway robbery to keep all that money.


    Since when does a person on welfare get close to $11/hr? LOL
    A lot people went off welfare when they reduced payments. People on welfare don't live like they used to unless they don't plan on paying rent and eating. Only way to get a lot of money on welfare is if you have a lot kids. It's not like the 80's where they easily paid rent and ate and still have money left over.

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