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    This woman got cohesive gel implants in 2010 and upon removal in 2012, after an unexceptionable auto-immune response, it was discovered that the cohesive gel had lost it's cohesion and had turned into a goo that was leaking into her system and poisoning her body.

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    One of the girls I work with is going through a similar thing. She has always been super charged with energy, then about a year after her silicone augmentation her health took a nose-dive. She was sleeping 16 hours a day, suffering joint pain, brain fog, and numbness in her hands (just to name a brief list). She is having hers removed on Friday (err... I guess in a couple of hours).

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    ^ I've been saying this for years.....it's not just silicone but saline, I've been going through it for 4 years. I was around when tons of girls had the original silicone and the original class action suit was going on and I know tons of women severly sick from their implants but girls on here only believe what they want to believe. It's a foreign object in the body for crying out loud and just think your body can reject piercings but no one want to think/ believe this will happen to them.

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    Michele11,

    So I am aware of how the silicone shell of saline implants can leech chemicals due to the high temperature of the body (just as plastic have been known to do), and I am aware that from time to time the saline implants can grow black mold inside. But just to play devils advocate here, would you agree that saline is generally safer than silicone? What I mean is, if someone is hellbent on getting implants, saline would be the lesser of two evils. Wouldn't you agree?

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    This is scary I'm getting them next thursday eeek thanks for making me feel bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by magenta View Post
    Michele11,

    So I am aware of how the silicone shell of saline implants can leech chemicals due to the high temperature of the body (just as plastic have been known to do), and I am aware that from time to time the saline implants can grow black mold inside. But just to play devils advocate here, would you agree that saline is generally safer than silicone? What I mean is, if someone is hellbent on getting implants, saline would be the lesser of two evils. Wouldn't you agree?
    I'm not a doctor but can only speak from my own personal experience but my one gf that was extremely sick had saline and I do as well. I mean slicone of course is worse if it's leaking in the body because it will travel through out your body, organs in larger amounts than the shell migrating due to macrophages. I don't know but I'm getting mine out completely in a few year but that too is no guarantee that your immune system will rebound which was the case with my one gf.

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    Also my one friend that was involved in the class action suit against dow had silicone and they had black mold in them. I saw them because she had to keep them for her case.

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    Welcome to my fucking life. Silicone lip injections about 5 years ago and 3 years ago bedridden with lupus. I still want to get implants, but I'm opting for saline if I go through with it. I'm TERRIFIED it will make things worse as well.

    My symptoms ~ 1.5yrs after injections (no shell/casing) were: joint popping/stiffness, feeling like I am getting the flu non-stop (like a throbbing electric ache and extreme fatigue), brain fog, sleeping a MINIMUM of 9-12 hours a night or I physically cannot get out of bed (if I need to get up early, I have to not sleep for like 24 hours), hair loss (its grown back now), ANA+, a lot of internal inflammation, acid reflux/GERD, ulcers, gluten intolerance, dairy sensitive (I can have a little and be ok though), frequent bronchitis/colds/pneumonia, voice loss lasting for months (now only lasting for a couple days at best thank god), swollen lymph nodes, I'm sure there's more.

    Silicone triggers an immune response in those who are prone to autoimmune disorders. In my case, I've had psoriasis since like toddler age, now psoriatic arthritis (thank GOD it didnt end up being rheumatoid!) + lupus.

    Saline grows black mold because its water-based.

    You just can't win lol. But you can get them changed/replaced/taken out.

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    Watching that video almost made me heave ho. That looked so gross.

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    It's stuff like this that makes me happy I took my liquid silicone ones out when I did - after 10 very profitable & enjoyable years I might add!

    The skin snapped right back to where it was before I started so don't worry too much about that girlies.

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    Wow. Thank you for sharing. I have been strongly considering removing my saline implants for the gummy bear.

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    Beyond just the leakage risk, some people can become allergic/sensitive to silicone after prolonged exposure. Like, if you wear your soft (silicone) contact lenses for too long, either not taking them out when you ought not sleep in them and/or wearing disposable ones long past their suggested wear, then your eyes could present with major painful allergic reactions. So these autoimmune issues may not even be the product of leaking implants, but just the shells--that is, if I'm recalling my research correctly and both saline and silicone implants are encased in silicone shells? I really want implants but I'm afraid I may fall into a high risk category for this sort of reaction

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Welcome to my fucking life. Silicone lip injections about 5 years ago and 3 years ago bedridden with lupus. I still want to get implants, but I'm opting for saline if I go through with it. I'm TERRIFIED it will make things worse as well.

    My symptoms ~ 1.5yrs after injections (no shell/casing) were: joint popping/stiffness, feeling like I am getting the flu non-stop (like a throbbing electric ache and extreme fatigue), brain fog, sleeping a MINIMUM of 9-12 hours a night or I physically cannot get out of bed (if I need to get up early, I have to not sleep for like 24 hours), hair loss (its grown back now), ANA+, a lot of internal inflammation, acid reflux/GERD, ulcers, gluten intolerance, dairy sensitive (I can have a little and be ok though), frequent bronchitis/colds/pneumonia, voice loss lasting for months (now only lasting for a couple days at best thank god), swollen lymph nodes, I'm sure there's more.

    Silicone triggers an immune response in those who are prone to autoimmune disorders. In my case, I've had psoriasis since like toddler age, now psoriatic arthritis (thank GOD it didnt end up being rheumatoid!) + lupus.

    Saline grows black mold because its water-based.

    You just can't win lol. But you can get them changed/replaced/taken out.
    I have all those symotoms and more. I would definitely not get implants if I were you , you are already having an immune response and this is what happened to my one friend that got really sick and she had hers out and is still sick. I mean you can do what you want with your body but without your health you have nothing and when your young you don't think about these things or down the road just the now. Anyways it's your body but with you already having an immune response I would think it over wisely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuesdaymarie View Post
    Beyond just the leakage risk, some people can become allergic/sensitive to silicone after prolonged exposure. Like, if you wear your soft (silicone) contact lenses for too long, either not taking them out when you ought not sleep in them and/or wearing disposable ones long past their suggested wear, then your eyes could present with major painful allergic reactions. So these autoimmune issues may not even be the product of leaking implants, but just the shells--that is, if I'm recalling my research correctly and both saline and silicone implants are encased in silicone shells? I really want implants but I'm afraid I may fall into a high risk category for this sort of reaction
    From my knowledge/research/thoughts, I think the issues is that autoimmune diseases are the result of major inflammation caused by something "unknown". This "unknown" thing may be a foreign object or something the body cannot process or looks at as an intruder. EVERYONE'S body sees breast implants as an invader, so everyone's body builds a capsule around it made of scar tissue. However, those with autoimmune problems (or prone to them)'s bodies go into major overdrive trying to get them out. So they send a lot of antibodies (ANA's often) and cells to go get rid of these foreign invaders or at least quarantine them. Since your body is going into overddrive, you often get sick. ANAs are a big factor in diagnosing lupus and various forms of arthritis (also autoimmune) as well. And I know psoriasis and eczema are apparently due essentially to having a leaky gut... probably caused by prolonged exposure to processed food and gluten. There's more to it than that, but autoimmune diseases still baffle doctors.

    Autoimmune diseases are kind of like reverse AIDS. AIDS is not having enough fighter cells, and autoimmune diseases are like having too many. But essentially they have a lot of the same effects/outcomes.

    So essentially, EVERYONE is "allergic" to foreign objects in the body, but not everyone's body will freak out to silicone for some reason. Which is why it has been deemed non-reactive in the body. You can actually be tested to see if you react to silicone. Plastic surgeons and many doctors refuse to admit that though. And they still say "silicone is proven non-reactive in the human body" ugh. Hard smooth silicone will be the least reactive bc the body cannot absorb it. Liquid/gel (or leaking implants) as well as textured implants CAN be absorbed by the body and blood stream. In fact, they have already proven that textured implants often leads to a rare form of lymphoma (lymph node/blood cancer). They did a study on if liquid/gel silicone leads to autoimmune problems (hence silicone being taken off the market in the 90s) and they found that it didn't, but the study was highly flawed. And paid off anyway. It seems to take like 2-5 years to see reactions in the body from silicone for some reason. I even had that experience.

    I personally think people with autoimmune problems should avoid silicone implants (opt for saline if you *MUST* have them). I tend to stand by Dr Susan Kolb's research/work. She's a plastic surgeon, researcher, who personally went through all this. She had her silicones removed and now has salines,

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    I have all those symotoms and more. I would definitely not get implants if I were you , you are already having an immune response and this is what happened to my one friend that got really sick and she had hers out and is still sick. I mean you can do what you want with your body but without your health you have nothing and when your young you don't think about these things or down the road just the now. Anyways it's your body but with you already having an immune response I would think it over wisely.
    Most of those symptoms have gone away, but some do remain. I still have a lot of internal inflammation, arthritis, psoriasis (its mostly healed though unless I eat gluten or a lot of dairy), acid reflux, ulcers, and occasional flu-like electro throbbing. And I do get sick a lot.

    I really struggle with this issue beecause I think maybe I *want* implants, but I don't really need them as I already have a good amount of breast tissue. I just wanted them for latex modeling I guess. I have been told by a rheumatologist and also a gynecologist (lol silicone toys) that putting any form of silicone in my body again from here on out is NOT a good idea. I am told by plastic surgeons that "silicone is non-reactive in the body, no one is allergic" <--- which I know is a semi-lie.

    So we'll see. I have put it off for years. Right now I'm getting a bunch of dental work done (onlays, oral surgery, then braces again- invisalign) so I know that I need to wait til all that is done anyway to make any decisions.

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    ^I was told by my optometrist that no one is allergic to silicone lenses. I would put my contacts in and my eyes would become inflamed in minutes. I went through being told I had Thygeson's (sp?) Disease for 3 years and that I should continue wearing my soft lenses to help heal my corneas some. Then during my last yearly exam, my optometrist said, as though I hadn't suggested it 3 years prior, "Maybe you're allergic to silicone!" He gave me non-silicone lenses and a lens solution without preservatives, plus some drops. Within two weeks, all the holes in my corneas were filled. I'm not sure if it was the lenses or the solution, but I remember how frustrating it was to be told that it's "impossible" to be allergic to silicone.

    I was tested for signs of Lupus a few years ago and that one test came up negative, but I still show a lot of signs of it... Is Lupus a lifelong thing, or can it develop?

    I'm like you and *really* want implants, but I'm so afraid of fucking up my body when I don't have very good health insurance...

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    ^I was told by my optometrist that no one is allergic to silicone lenses. I would put my contacts in and my eyes would become inflamed in minutes. I went through being told I had Thygeson's (sp?) Disease for 3 years and that I should continue wearing my soft lenses to help heal my corneas some. Then during my last yearly exam, my optometrist said, as though I hadn't suggested it 3 years prior, "Maybe you're allergic to silicone!" He gave me non-silicone lenses and a lens solution without preservatives, plus some drops. Within two weeks, all the holes in my corneas were filled. I'm not sure if it was the lenses or the solution, but I remember how frustrating it was to be told that it's "impossible" to be allergic to silicone.

    I was tested for signs of Lupus a few years ago and that one test came up negative, but I still show a lot of signs of it... Is Lupus a lifelong thing, or can it develop?

    I'm like you and *really* want implants, but I'm so afraid of fucking up my body when I don't have very good health insurance...
    Yeah the same thing happened to me with silicone toys (camming) and a gynecologist. I had an abnormal pap (not due to HPV) and recurring inflammation so she's like "this looks like an allergy" and I'm like "uhh to what?" and she's like "latex. condoms." and I'm like "ok but I don't use condoms and I also have no partners right now..." and she's like "well something is coming in contact and irritating it. perhaps a lubricant?" and im like "i only use coconut oil... and SILICONE toys" and she's like "then it sounds like you're allergic to silicone" and she looked under a microscope and tested. And thats when I put 2 & 2 together (silicone lip injections + all these symptoms + lupus) and googled and found a bunch of people who had the same issues, only with leaking breast implants.

    Lupus can develop at any time. I had one dr say I don't have it, and its just severe arthritis, but then another said no its lupus. Idk, I honestly feel like lupus may not even be an actual disease, but rather a cluster of random autoimmune symptoms that cannot be put under any other umbrella.

    Yeah I'm TERRIFIED to get implants bc idk how my body will react or when it would react. I have a feeling I would get CC bc I got it on part of my lip and thats such a tiny amount. I had to have it burned out and fixd by a reconstructive surgeon. Idk even what it would do even after I got them out if I did have problems. Its scary. You really don't know. A lot of women get implants when they are healthy with zero symptoms and still have a horrible time. Considering we've had these symptoms BEFORE implants, it makes it really scary and risky. Plastic surgeons just want your cash so they'll say whatever bc the risk isn't on them and there's no way for it to be put on them either. So that makes it even harder.

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    GR if I were u I def would not get them. Id look into the fat transfer or the cell transfer or whatever it is for the breasts instead. You basically know you're allergic to silicone don't go get them then have to take them out right after it won't be worth it and it could mess up your real boobs pretty bad.

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    GR if I were u I def would not get them. Id look into the fat transfer or the cell transfer or whatever it is for the breasts instead. You basically know you're allergic to silicone don't go get them then have to take them out right after it won't be worth it and it could mess up your real boobs pretty bad.
    Ahhhh yeah I literally debate this everyday in my head lol. I want to look into the Brava system and perhaps stem cell fat injections also. I've been researching for a good 8 years now though.

    The thing will silicone is that I may not be allergic to hard shells. I also had tubes (hard silicone) put in my ears as a toddler and didn't have any affects. The silicone in my lips has no shell so its readily and continually absorbed into the bloodstream/body. Actually, now that i think about it, I did develop psoriasis as a toddler right after my ear surgeries, and my dermatologist and regular doctor were both really disturbed that a toddler had psoriasis bc I guess its not common. AHHH omg. And it LITERALLY STARTED behind my ear which is near where the silicone tubes were placed. And when I was diagnosed with lupus, it started with voice loss and lymph nodes the size of golf balls in my throat, which is right near my lips where the silicone is injected. Hmmmmm. Wow, must think and research.

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    I'm tired of these threads. If you believe they're deadly don't get them! I am aware that all surgeries are serious and carry risk. If we are willing to take the risk anyway then live and let live...... chingada madre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Ahhhh yeah I literally debate this everyday in my head lol. I want to look into the Brava system and perhaps stem cell fat injections also. I've been researching for a good 8 years now though.

    The thing will silicone is that I may not be allergic to hard shells. I also had tubes (hard silicone) put in my ears as a toddler and didn't have any affects. The silicone in my lips has no shell so its readily and continually absorbed into the bloodstream/body. Actually, now that i think about it, I did develop psoriasis as a toddler right after my ear surgeries, and my dermatologist and regular doctor were both really disturbed that a toddler had psoriasis bc I guess its not common. AHHH omg. And it LITERALLY STARTED behind my ear which is near where the silicone tubes were placed. And when I was diagnosed with lupus, it started with voice loss and lymph nodes the size of golf balls in my throat, which is right near my lips where the silicone is injected. Hmmmmm. Wow, must think and research.
    You are talking yourself out what you know through research and you've done and know a lot. Like when I called a major implant manufacturer after I did some research, what you said is what he told me is it's thought you body doesn't see it ads an invader because it builds scar tissue around it( walls it off) which we know is bullshit and you are right that doctors are making billions( well plastic surgeons) so they wont admit, well except susan kolb( who my friend went to) and I went to one who believes putting them behind all the muscles( pec major, minor, serattis and fasia) helps prevent this but the body is a complex thing and basically people with implants will have lupus, ms, fibromyalga and lots of immune dissorder symtoms but you son't actually have them it's a symtom of as susan and the specialist at U.S.F. told my gf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokikola View Post
    I'm tired of these threads. If you believe they're deadly don't get them! I am aware that all surgeries are serious and carry risk. If we are willing to take the risk anyway then live and let live...... chingada madre.
    No offense to you but if your tired of these thread than don't click on them. Young girls who weren't around to see hundreds of thousands of women get sick from implants should be aware of the risks and info out there. I had no auto immune illneses before and I still don't get viruses and stuff like that and no one in my family has or has had any kind of immune illnesses so for the girls out there who aren't very informed about implants should know and hear from people who've had issues that it can and does happen. Again no offense to you but just like any other thread you don't like, don't read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    I have all those symotoms and more. I would definitely not get implants if I were you , you are already having an immune response and this is what happened to my one friend that got really sick and she had hers out and is still sick. I mean you can do what you want with your body but without your health you have nothing and when your young you don't think about these things or down the road just the now. Anyways it's your body but with you already having an immune response I would think it over wisely.
    I've been following your posts for a long time and you seem to be one of the very few members that seem to know what they are talking about. Because of your posts, I will not be getting implants. I will get a lift instead. Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovelyme View Post
    I've been following your posts for a long time and you seem to be one of the very few members that seem to know what they are talking about. Because of your posts, I will not be getting implants. I will get a lift instead. Thank you!
    Thanks I'm definitely not an advocate against implants or anything since I have them but I just feel any women considering implants should know the risks and hear from real people who have gotten sick. There are many forums all over the internet about this ass well. GR has I believe posted links before. I think it's good to hear all the info good or bad so women can make informed decisions.

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