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    Another thread put this in my mind, and I've googled all over the place with no luck....

    I've had problems with wrist ganglions for maybe a year. I've had them aspirated and they're back within a week unless I keep my wrists tightly wrapped. Which is NOT a good look at work.....
    Here's what they are:
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    My concern? What if my implants are the culprit? I've had saline implants for about 5 yrs. As far as I know, I'm not leaking. (I would know right? Even with a tiny leak?) I've lost a bit of weight, so my boobs are smaller.....

    Has anyone EVER heard of a connection between the 2? Google is only giving me info on Docs that do boob jobs, as well as deal with wrist ganglions....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit210 View Post
    Another thread put this in my mind, and I've googled all over the place with no luck....

    I've had problems with wrist ganglions for maybe a year. I've had them aspirated and they're back within a week unless I keep my wrists tightly wrapped. Which is NOT a good look at work.....
    Here's what they are:


    My concern? What if my implants are the culprit? I've had saline implants for about 5 yrs. As far as I know, I'm not leaking. (I would know right? Even with a tiny leak?) I've lost a bit of weight, so my boobs are smaller.....

    Has anyone EVER heard of a connection between the 2? Google is only giving me info on Docs that do boob jobs, as well as deal with wrist ganglions....
    You know whats really funny, I got those several times right after my silicone injections, but only on my right wrist. I never thought they were a side effect, but they might be. The doctor told me they are nothing to worry about (and also told me they are called "bible bumps" bc in older times they would smash them with bibles), and that they may or may not ever go away. I had the dr repeatedly stab the area with a needle (BIG mistake), but with each stab, I thought I was going to pass out and die. And it left my wrist bruised. Mine went away eventually, but had come back even after the needle stabs.

    It wouldn't surprise me if they were connected. However, you have salines and not silicones, so I doubt that silicone is the culprit (its only in the hard shell and hard shell isn't absorbed by the body/blood stream unless its textured... the textured ones have been proven to be linked to a rare form of lymphoma). And even with leaking, you would probably know bc they'd get completely deflated. However, you could be growing mold (including black mold) inside them and you'd never know til you have them removed or changed. I think michelle11 said something about them growing microphages also. Surgeries where you implant something are always risky bc bacteria could get in the item or in the wound, or you could have an allergy to the material.

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    ^ No macrophages are scavengers of the body. It's thought that they try to rid the body of the implants since they are a foreign object, that's why people with saline will blood test positive for silicone and it can be found in organs throughout the body. This happened to my good friend and I know a lot about this because she was married to someone very well off (since implant probelms are not covered by insurance you sign a rider) so she saw many specialists including that lady you spoke of kozar I believe. I don't know if this is causing her cysts and most implant related stuff can't be proven but only by process of elimination but I have all kinds of weird shit going on you wouldn't believe so I wouldn't discount it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michele11 View Post
    ^ No macrophages are scavengers of the body. It's thought that they try to rid the body of the implants since they are a foreign object, that's why people with saline will blood test positive for silicone and it can be found in organs throughout the body. This happened to my good friend and I know a lot about this because she was married to someone very well off (since implant probelms are not covered by insurance you sign a rider) so she saw many specialists including that lady you spoke of kozar I believe. I don't know if this is causing her cysts and most implant related stuff can't be proven but only by process of elimination but I have all kinds of weird shit going on you wouldn't believe so I wouldn't discount it.
    Yeah thats the most ANNOYING thing about implants. The costs if something goes wrong will be solely on you, you will have to pay for every procedure up front before they do it, and every insurance company will deny you (or likely drop you if thy can) for coverage. I really want to see Dr Kolb in the future and be treated by her, but I will probably have to have multiple surgeries, and have to pay everything out of pocket 100% and upfront. She does try to bill insurance, but I can't get coverage with a preexisting condition (well I can now but the deductible is RIDICULOUS and makes it pointless).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    ^^^thats why its important to make sure your dr fixes problems/does explants for free. Mine does. And I have health insurance so if anything else went wrong (like weird symptoms in other places), I would be able to get that covered.

    IMO, if both of these things aren't met, implants are really risky.
    Yeah, and they don't even approve people after you've had implants as well. Insurance companies know the risks, and doctors fail to acknowledge them because the cosmetic industry is a huge profit. They see it as a pre-existing condition. So that would just add to it. But all I know is that I'm never going to have health insurance again (in this country), and its not because I don't want it. Its because you pretty much won't be approved if you have any major or potentially major problem (or if you've had breast implants) unless you're ok with paying like $700 a month with a 30k deductible per year. But then its like, whats the point? Unless you're thinking you'll have more than 30k of work done every single year, and you have more than 30k cash to hand over to a doctor just in case. Pretty sad for someone in their early almost mid 20s, but that's the way our country works. I'm marrying Canadian

    Symptoms also, in these cases, don't show up until 2-5 years later. Mine weren't til almost 2 years later. But once that dr diagnoses you with something like lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, you can forget about ever having health insurance. Yay our country!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BringOnTheMen View Post
    ^^^thats why its important to make sure your dr fixes problems/does explants for free. Mine does. And I have health insurance so if anything else went wrong (like weird symptoms in other places), I would be able to get that covered.

    IMO, if both of these things aren't met, implants are really risky.
    You have to sign a waiver when you have insurance saying if anything arises( illnesses or deflation anything) it is not covered and silicone is considered a pre existing condition and most insurance companies will deny you if you have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    Yeah, and they don't even approve people after you've had implants as well. Insurance companies know the risks, and doctors fail to acknowledge them because the cosmetic industry is a huge profit. They see it as a pre-existing condition. So that would just add to it. But all I know is that I'm never going to have health insurance again (in this country), and its not because I don't want it. Its because you pretty much won't be approved if you have any major or potentially major problem (or if you've had breast implants) unless you're ok with paying like $700 a month with a 30k deductible per year. But then its like, whats the point? Unless you're thinking you'll have more than 30k of work done every single year, and you have more than 30k cash to hand over to a doctor just in case. Pretty sad for someone in their early almost mid 20s, but that's the way our country works. I'm marrying Canadian

    Symptoms also, in these cases, don't show up until 2-5 years later. Mine weren't til almost 2 years later. But once that dr diagnoses you with something like lupus or rheumatoid arthritis, you can forget about ever having health insurance. Yay our country!!!
    Mine didn't show up for 8 years..... and 2 of my friends it took closer to 15 years. My one girlfriend was on her third set (nothing happened just went bigger then smaller the last time) before she had symtoms.

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    Who says insurance companies won't approve you after you have implants? Not true at all....
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Who says insurance companies won't approve you after you have implants? Not true at all....
    A lot of them, in general, won't. But they may be more lenient if the surgery was more than 5 years ago. I have a couple of friends who can't get insurance because of recent BAs.



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    You have to sign a waiver when you have insurance saying if anything arises( illnesses or deflation anything) it is not covered and silicone is considered a pre existing condition and most insurance companies will deny you if you have them.
    Yeah that too. Or they will give you a big ass yearly deductible you have to pay before they will cover anything including office visits... which makes insurance pointless.

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    ^ I guess it depends on what state you live in but I have humana one ( for 7 years) and I had to sign a waiver saying that if anything arises cosmetic or illness related I wouldn't be covered and have had several fiends with slicone be turned down completely as it's a pre existing cond. At least a few girls on the other website have said no one would accept them because they had silicone implants.

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    Also when I got humana they asked me like 50 questions and one was if I had implants they didn't ask how long I had them just told me about the waiver. I know my gf just got blue cross and it's much cheaper and I'm not sure if they asked her. My plan with humana is a decent plan my copays are only 20 and 40 for specialist and 2,500 deductible. The blue cross plans are cheaper but the copays are 40 and 70 for specialist and a 5,000 deductible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlamourRouge View Post
    A lot of them, in general, won't. But they may be more lenient if the surgery was more than 5 years ago. I have a couple of friends who can't get insurance because of recent BAs.





    Yeah that too. Or they will give you a big ass yearly deductible you have to pay before they will cover anything including office visits... which makes insurance pointless.
    Way too much misinformation....... who told you all this about insurance companies? Way off.....

    Where do I start? First of all, $700 per month and a 30K deductible? On what planet? Insurance for someone in their twenties-thirties shouldn't be over $300 per month, and that's conservative, I'm taking into account higher prices in other states. In Texas, about $150 gets you damn good health insurance.

    Also, with almost all health insurance companies, now about 4 office visits are covered 100% per year, no copays or deductibles applied, regardless of your type of policy. I could go into further detail about this.....
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    All of your friends should be able to get health insurance regardless of their recent BA's, unless they're not telling you something.
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    Anyways, since Obamacare has been passed, all of this will probably become a non issue.
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    Anyways ladies, there are always ways around things on the insurance side. I sell insurance for living, I know this.

    I'm not sure where GlamourRouge is getting her information, but it's incorrect. If nothing else, there are indemnity plans that pay upon first diagnosis of a specific type of disease. Let's say cancer for example, you have preexisting cancer, so hypothetically the insurance won't cover it, you can take out a supplemental plan (for dirt cheap by the way) that pays 50K upon first diagnosis of cancer. This is one example..... I could go on.....
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    Anyways ladies, there are always ways around things on the insurance side. I sell insurance for living, I know this.

    I'm not sure where GlamourRouge is getting her information, but it's incorrect. If nothing else, there are indemnity plans that pay upon first diagnosis of a specific type of disease. Let's say cancer for example, you have preexisting cancer, so hypothetically the insurance won't cover it, you can take out a supplemental plan (for dirt cheap by the way) that pays 50K upon first diagnosis of cancer. This is one example..... I could go on.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Way too much misinformation....... who told you all this about insurance companies? Way off.....

    Where do I start? First of all, $700 per month and a 30K deductible? On what planet? Insurance for someone in their twenties-thirties shouldn't be over $300 per month, and that's conservative, I'm taking into account higher prices in other states. In Texas, about $150 gets you damn good health insurance.

    Also, with almost all health insurance companies, now about 4 office visits are covered 100% per year, no copays or deductibles applied, regardless of your type of policy. I could go into further detail about this.....
    Ummm that was around the quote I got for ME, but thats because I have had almost 6 figures in medical bills over the last 2 yrs. It is different for everyone, and it varies from state to state, area to area. If I could get approved for the prices you quote, I would take it in a heartbeat. Health coverage policies also changed on June 15 of this year, so I'm assuiming deductables are higher as well as fewer copays.

    Lol why are you arguing with ME, when I was the one that got the quote for MYSELF? ?? lol And why do you care what they quote me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.D. View Post
    Anyways ladies, there are always ways around things on the insurance side. I sell insurance for living, I know this.

    I'm not sure where GlamourRouge is getting her information, but it's incorrect. If nothing else, there are indemnity plans that pay upon first diagnosis of a specific type of disease. Let's say cancer for example, you have preexisting cancer, so hypothetically the insurance won't cover it, you can take out a supplemental plan (for dirt cheap by the way) that pays 50K upon first diagnosis of cancer. This is one example..... I could go on.....
    Cool well since the information I got from health insurance companies is apparently incorrect, I'd like you to get me approved. How do I do it??? Thanks!

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    Yeah, apparently it is incorrect. I can quote you WAY less than that.
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    Sweetheart, I don't care what "they" quoted you..... I only care about informing any other girl who reads this thread....
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    By the way, I'm not calling you a liar per se, just saying that whomever quoted you didn't know what the F he/she was talking about!
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    Maybe I can help by sharing my recent insurance experiences. My jackass soon-to-be-ex-husband (a.k.a. twatgoblin) cancelled my policy so I've been researching the hell out of it for the past month. (cobra is going to be way too expensive) Not that I would think I know more than someone in that business, just my recent experiences!
    I do know that health insurance varies wildly from state to state. There's some federal facts that apply everywhere, but each state has a different level of fuckery. I'm only familiar with the fuckery local to Louisiana.
    I have learned in Louisiana, there are 5 companies that sell individual policies. I have a shrink, I need him (see 'getting divorced') Only 2 companies claim to cover anything mental related. After applying and jumping thru 100000 hoops, ya find out 'therapy' doesn't count. One of the companies (Celtic) tacked on an 'Elimination Rider' permanently refusing to cover anything related to anxiety, depression, insomnia, etc. Making it damn near useless for me, but they still "accepted" me and are willing to charge me full price. Fuck Them. From what I understand with the new laws, you can no longer be flat-out turned down, but they can charge you way more and small-print your policy into uselessness. I *believe* that is nationwide?
    There are ridiculous things that can get your policy screwed here, such as being a bartender or musician.
    You're in the same risk bracket as roofers, interstate truckers, hazardous materials handlers, firefighters and police.
    It's worse if you are a model, miner or crop duster.
    The prices for policies are very high here. I'm looking at $200/mo for a pretty basic policy that doesn't even cover office visits. If I want office visits with a $30-$50 copay, I'm looking at $300 - $350/mo. I finally threw in the towel trying to sort out the red tape and fine print when I realized I probably had learned enough to qualify for a job, I've literally been at this for a month. I called a blue cross agent to help me and will hear from him next week. I also plan on lying my ass off about my boob job, since any complications won't be covered anyway. The way I see it, if they aren't covering anything related to it, it's none of their goddamn business. I'm very tired of how invasive this is.
    As far as my wrist ganglions, I'm just going to learn to live with 'em. I can't find any info drawing any sort of connection and nobody really knows a cause. Getting them aspirated temporarily fixes it, but I can't imagine that having someone insert a very large needle into my wrist is good for my joints. They do go down temporarily if I keep my wrists tightly wrapped, so I'm thinking that if I do that maybe the tiny tear in my joint that is leaking will heal up with my joint fluid inside where it belongs. My next step is inventing something to wear at work so I'm not 'that' stripper with the bandaged wrists.....
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    Kermit, good luck with ANY individual policy that covers a shrink, I have yet to find one!
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    Kermit, PM me and I can help you, I have nothing to gain as I am not licensed in LA, but I will help you....

    As far as mental health for any lady who reads this, Aetna is usually your best bet for individual policies with mental health coverage, they have the most lenient underwriting in that dept.
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    Kermit, PM me and I can help you, I have nothing to gain as I am not licensed in LA, but I will help you....

    As far as mental health for any lady who reads this, Aetna is usually your best bet for individual policies with mental health coverage, they have the most lenient underwriting in that dept.
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