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    So I thought I might get into why guys are shallow, and all about looks, and maybe all you girls might not think so badly about us lol.
    The most attractive girl in the world is the healthiest one. Not the skinniest. It’s in our guy genes to look for the healthiest girls so we
    can mate and have the healthiest children. Things like big boobs and wide hips, signal fertility.Its not something we do on purpose,
    but its biologically programmed for men to always be on the lookout for attractive women to have the healthiest kids.
    That's why you might sometimes catch your boyfriend looking at other girls lol. And women are attracted to a bunch of things like money,
    looks, shelter, strength, ambition, confidence and a man who can provide. Now that we know what everyone wants we can all be happy.

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    Was this a question or a commentary piece? I think you've come to the wrong place about why guys are shallow. We get paid because guys are shallow. Regardless of what you say about size of women all guys have different tastes still I don't think guys got to strip clubs to make babies. But thanks for the info anyways.

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    Ok, here's the thing, women are just as shallow. Yep, I don't date fat men or men I find repulsive and quite frankly most women I know don't either, except the women at the bottom of the genetic lottery. You will not find many if any of these women here (and all of the women who are regular posters who have posted their photo are hot). However, many men seem to think they can be as ugly and fat and repulsive as they want and still get women because "women don't judge by looks". Where they got this idea I don't know, likely from some slob. Those TV shows with a sloppy husband and a hot wife? fairytale land no doubt written by a man.

    Btw, I couldn't care less what a man makes because I am NOT looking for a provider. I provide for myself and so do the women here. In the event that was important I would be looking for a man who was also in good shape as well.

    Also, it is extremely rude when men look at other women while out with one. Luckily I haven't had a guy do that to me, but have had guys check me out while with another woman. It just puts them in the creepy category.

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    i wasnt really talking about strip clubs just in general. of course guys dont go to strip clubs to make babies lol. im just saying why guys are attracted to healthy girls that doesn't necessarily mean they want kids

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    Healthy, that could mean different things. I am 41 and healthy as can be and in excellent shape with no diseases. Someone I know is 25, overweight and drinks too much. Besides, we can't always get what we want. If that was the case I would be married to a 6 foot tall Hispanic (preferably Mexican, Cuban or Puerto Rican)professional who drives a sportscar. However, a 400 pound man with looks creepy is not likely to attract an attractive woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Ok, here's the thing, women are just as shallow. Yep, I don't date fat men or men I find repulsive and quite frankly most women I know don't either, except the women at the bottom of the genetic lottery. You will not find many if any of these women here (and all of the women who are regular posters who have posted their photo are hot). However, many men seem to think they can be as ugly and fat and repulsive as they want and still get women because "women don't judge by looks". Where they got this idea I don't know, likely from some slob. Those TV shows with a sloppy husband and a hot wife? fairytale land no doubt written by a man.

    Btw, I couldn't care less what a man makes because I am NOT looking for a provider. I provide for myself and so do the women here. In the event that was important I would be looking for a man who was also in good shape as well.

    Also, it is extremely rude when men look at other women while out with one. Luckily I haven't had a guy do that to me, but have had guys check me out while with another woman. It just puts them in the creepy category.
    I totally agree with you, women are into a lot of things and what i said was just in general. Not everything i listed may pertain to you but there are somethings i listed that did right? strength, confidence, looks. lol maybe next time i can write about what only kellydancer is attracted too

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    We're just mammals dude! I don't know about you girls but I'm so much happier now that I've been clued in to the science of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightsquared View Post
    I totally agree with you, women are into a lot of things and what i said was just in general. Not everything i listed may pertain to you but there are somethings i listed that did right? strength, confidence, looks. lol maybe next time i can write about what only kellydancer is attracted too
    Yes what I am attracted to is the only thing important. Seriously though did you even read what I wrote? Just because a man wants something doesn't mean he will get it. Also, women are attracted to looks like men are, except at least the women I know are realistic. I don't see women who are overweight or unattractive going after men much younger, hotter and thinner like many men seem to think they deserve. Women are generally not attracted to fat and ugly guys unless they are that themselves.

    Let me guess you are bored during your summer vacation and mom and dad are gone for the day.

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    Im actually reading a book on human mating. It states women go for men who have resources (money, status, health, shelter, emotionally stable, long-commited). While men go for females after their health (hips, average/slender body, clear skin, no diseases/sickness, puffy lips, good hair) and age (the younger the female is the better quality of her eggs, the better offspring for the man to reproduce).

    This book did studies within 37 different cultures from China, Poland, UK, USA, and a few others, the statics say even from the 1930s the physically appearance of a female mattered to men way higher, then to women who did not care as much. They made the study again in 2003, and men still 2x want a physically atrractive female compared to a woman whom care more for resources than physical. It also stated men value better looking woman higher than others, as it shows off to the same sex competitors, improves his public and social status and gives him better offspring.

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    But who did those studies? You can't believe all those studies because there are a lot of factors. For example, another thing from the past is the healthier men were more likely to reproduce while the less attractive died off. Also, men's sperm also decreases with age and older dads are more likely to reproduce children with autism. Even so, women do not want fat and ugly men. I'm not denying men want hot women, I'm just saying there's only so many to go around and the men at the top have their choices. Then men at the bottom of the scale don't have as much to choose from.

    Think about this, all types of people marry, including overweight women. I usually look at wedding announcements and most of the time they are the same education and income level and looks. Rarely will you see a hot woman marrying an obese man unless he is wealthy. Even then you rarely see an obese man who is a CEO or anything like that. The obese men I knew who married all married obese women. The ugly men I know married ugly women.

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    Dude, you sound like you just discovered fire or something. None of what you just posted is news! This is a website populated primarily by exotic dancers. They've forgotten more about what makes men tick than you will ever learn. Happiness in life is complicated. It is not achieved by reading an article in Men's Health or Maxim and then going forth to seek fertile women...unless of course this was the 1950's. Happiness for an exotic dancer and strip club customer is much simpler. You pay, they dance. Everyone is happy. I suggest you stick to the easy stuff for now instead of trying to solve the great mysteries of life and relationships...
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    Very true. Strip clubs at its basic is simple: Guy looks for the type of woman he is attracted to and dancer with that type will dance for him for money. Life doesn't work that way always but that is why clubs are the fantasy. However even at that fantasy men all have different types they find hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightsquared View Post
    So I thought I might get into why guys are shallow, and all about looks, and maybe all you girls might not think so badly about us lol.
    So what you want to know how to date Strippers on your 30K a year salary?
    Quote Originally Posted by lightsquared View Post
    The most attractive girl in the world is the healthiest one. Not the skinniest. It’s in our guy genes to look for the healthiest girls so we can mate and have the healthiest children. Things like big boobs and wide hips, signal fertility.Its not something we do on purpose,
    Attractiveness and sexuality are so broad, this statement is near meaningless.
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    but its biologically programmed for men to always be on the lookout for attractive women to have the healthiest kids.
    This applies to any species that walks, crawls, swims, or flies.
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    That's why you might sometimes catch your boyfriend looking at other girls lol.
    Also why you may catch your girlfriend looking at another guy. Monogamy is a construct to protect generational wealth. The male wants to secure his resources, the female wants to secure those resources for their offspring. Monogamy as a construct provided for this be ensuring parentage before the DNA test.
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    And women are attracted to a bunch of things like money, looks, shelter, strength, ambition, confidence and a man who can provide. Now that we know what everyone wants we can all be happy.
    Actually they are looking for security for their offspring, those are traits and possessions that cater to this.

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    ^ Exactly, the "healthier" men were able to reproduce which probably meant they were the alpha male. It did not matter if a man was attractive or not if he was weak, sick, did not want to commit, unstable, did not want to provide for his female partner and future kids could explain why whether being attractive or non did not matter. While being healthy is more demand for females whom want healthier children... This is why men pick females to be the attractive ones so they both could have healthy kids, while males provide the resource.

    Men are born with unlimited sperm, they are able to produce sperm until death unless a medical problems comes up. While women only have a number of eggs from start puberty to when they start menopause. The decrease in producing is much stronger within females than males, an average female of the age of 50 will have zero eggs by that age, equals no kids. While a mans sperm will decrease but he is still able to produce offspring, there are risks to the children when the man is closer to his DEATH, but there are also risk to the offspring when the female is closer to her menopause. This is why its their nature to seek out heathly women to produce heathly offsring. The book stated, a men in his 30s will prefer a female of a 5 year difference, then a man in his 50s will prefer a 10-20 age gap! The older the men get the younger mate they seek inorder to reproduce.

    Here's a brief section on it, http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homep...ating_2007.pdf

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    $30,000? probably more like minimum wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisca View Post
    ^ Exactly, the "healthier" men were able to reproduce which probably meant they were the alpha male. It did not matter if a man was attractive or not if he was weak, sick, did not want to commit, unstable, did not want to provide for his female partner and future kids could explain why whether being attractive or non did not matter. While being healthy is more demand for females whom want healthier children... This is why men pick females to be the attractive ones so they both could have healthy kids, while males provide the resource.

    Men are born with unlimited sperm, they are able to produce sperm until death unless a medical problems comes up. While women only have a number of eggs from start puberty to when they start menopause. The decrease in producing is much stronger within females than males, an average female of the age of 50 will have zero eggs by that age, equals no kids. While a mans sperm will decrease but he is still able to produce offspring, there are risks to the children when the man is closer to his DEATH, but there are also risk to the offspring when the female is closer to her menopause. This is why its their nature to seek out heathly women to produce heathly offsring. The book stated, a men in his 30s will prefer a female of a 5 year difference, then a man in his 50s will prefer a 10-20 age gap! The older the men get the younger mate they seek inorder to reproduce.

    Here's a brief section on it,
    Sure men could provide sperm until they die, but doesn't mean it is healthy sperm. There are countless studies out there that in fact back up the idea that the older a man is the less likely it is healthy. So in fact this means men to some extent have their own menopause.

    Good luck to a 50 year old man looking for a wife 10-20 years younger unless he happens to be extremely hot and yes wealthy. A 50 year old cook at KFC? (and yes one contacted me on dating site)not likely. Men want younger, doesn't mean they will get younger, anymore that it's likely that I will marry a prince.

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    I just wanted to share something interesting that i read over the weekend and have an adult conversation about it. I don't know why people are attacking me over it. I apologize if i hurt anyone's feelings

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    So you registered just to post that? Sounds odd.

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    ^ Females cant have kids have menopause at age 50 its finished for an average female. Men prefer to look for females who are able to reproduce at a decent amount of age 20-30/35 age within North America. For females aged 40-50 that it when men start looking elsewhere if they still did not have offspring inorder for survival and for their offspring to be heathly. That 40 - 50 age gap states to men that the reproduction cycle is ending for the female and they go elsewhere if they havnt already reproduced, this is why they are able to go younger because they can still produce sperm, while females cannot produce more eggs at age 50. While for men their "menopause" stage would be at 60, while they still are able to reproduce, men in their 40s-50s are still in their prime for a female mate and are still considered heathly. This is why men can go after younger female its only natural for humans.

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    Kisca, the more you post, the more I get the feeling you dislike what you consider older women. Are you afraid of getting old? When I was your age and when I dated older men (men incidentally who sought me out instead of older women)I thought I knew it all and that older women were bitter, menopausal, etc. However I am now older and realize I didn't know it all. They only wanted me because of my looks and to control me. Also, life doesn't always work out as one expects and you might find yourself single later in life. I do still get approached by men who want to date me, and yes many are still open to kids. My doctor told me I am still fertile and late childbirth is in my family history. However I wouldn't reject a man just because he was infertile (and many men are)so why men only judge women on this is bizarre. Plus never a guarantee of fertility.

    And yes men in their 40s-50s and up going after much younger women are pathetic losers. However most of them will find themselves alone because smart women will reject them. If they wanted kids so bad they should have had them earlier too just like they blame women for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    So you registered just to post that? Sounds odd.
    not really lol im a business major and im interested in the hospitality, clubbing industry. If it makes you feel better i work part time as a waiter so i make like minimum wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellydancer View Post
    Kisca, the more you post, the more I get the feeling you dislike what you consider older women. Are you afraid of getting old? When I was your age and when I dated older men (men incidentally who sought me out instead of older women)I thought I knew it all and that older women were bitter, menopausal, etc. However I am now older and realize I didn't know it all. They only wanted me because of my looks and to control me. Also, life doesn't always work out as one expects and you might find yourself single later in life. I do still get approached by men who want to date me, and yes many are still open to kids. My doctor told me I am still fertile and late childbirth is in my family history. However I wouldn't reject a man just because he was infertile (and many men are)so why men only judge women on this is bizarre. Plus never a guarantee of fertility.


    And yes men in their 40s-50s and up going after much younger women are pathetic losers. However most of them will find themselves alone because smart women will reject them. If they wanted kids so bad they should have had them earlier too just like they blame women for.
    I do not dislike older women at all, its life and I stated only a few facts. How do I dislike older women because their bodies cannot produce over age 50, because men are looking younger ? That makes me dislike older women ? Not at all, because I will be dealing with it when I am older. All the posts in this thread were NOT directing at you, but an average unknown female, it seems to me you took it too personal based on your last post, when I wasnt talking about YOU in any manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightsquared View Post
    I just wanted to share something interesting that i read over the weekend and have an adult conversation about it. I don't know why people are attacking me over it. I apologize if i hurt anyone's feelings
    I don't think you've hurt anyone's feelings but, seriously, you have to know you're venue before you start posting-especially stuff that is totally off-topic considering the nature of this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisca View Post
    I do not dislike older women at all, its life and I stated only a few facts. How do I dislike older women because their bodies cannot produce over age 50, because men are looking younger ? That makes me dislike older women ? Not at all, because I will be dealing with it when I am older. All the posts in this thread were NOT directing at you, but an average unknown female, it seems to me you took it too personal based on your last post, when I wasnt talking about YOU in any manner.
    Because it seems everytime this topic comes up there is always these "stats" that state women can't produce eggs over certain ages (and this age varies). However, this idea that some have here that men can date as young as they want because of this is demeaning to older women because men do bypass women their age. There seems to be at times this dislike here in general for aging. I'm not taking it personal since I still do date men my age and younger but I figure if I am too old to reproduce then so are men and a 60 year new father is disturbing.

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